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I dont want to be be 'helped'.....apparently those leaders also were NOT in the business of 'helping'......if they were Tonko/up-chuck/Tedisco/Amedore and the rest of them wouldn't keep doing the same F'EN thing over and over and over again

they have no idea.....they just protect their own and legislate over and over and over again the piddly crap of DSS and habitat for humanity and then expect folks to know what the FU(K TO DO ABOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES WITH AN
F'EN SYSTEM THAT IS MADE BY THOSE SAME ELECTED FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the created freedom that I have is between YOU AND I.......

the manmade 'freedom' that I have is between ME AND THE GOVERNMENT.......

WHICH ONE HAS LIBERTY??????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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OWS on their own power DID NOT get NY'ers a tax cut.....the civil conversation started with the Tea Party Movement only those at the top(BOTH PARTIES) were trying to put their skirts back down...rule #1 keep your enemy close and even
agree with them and pretend that you are on their side---hence the 'fall' of the tea party
rule #2 when they are not placated by rule #1 toss them a $$ bone----hence the opening of the Roman storehouses and the beginning of Rome's fall....

although this is not Rome let's hope America doesn't end up like Rome/Europe.....kindle that spirit again or this will be us:




wow...
hahahahah


We didnt come this far to get this far.
   random 12 year old


A slave is someone that waits for someone else to free him.
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Tea Party?  Does the TeaParty still even exist?
I'm not sure.  As near as I can tell, the TeaBaggers have fizzled and died.  Their bodies are still around stinking up the place,
but they are dead.
Most local TeaParty groups has been silent for a year or more.  The TeaBagger Blog in the TU has even folded for lack
of interest.
I'm sure there are a few, die hard, extremist TeaBaggers still shaking their fists and screaming for attention, but look around,
Palin is long dead.  Bachmann is a joke.  TeaBaggers elected to congress in 2010 are on the ropes and will have to work hard
to survive.
The country may elect a Democrat or a Republican as president in '12, but either way it will have little to do with the
Tea Bagger's twisted TeaParty.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Tea Party IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY.......it was the beginning of the same conversation OWS is continuing.....they to will get eaten up by the rhetoric/propaganda and get 'tossed a bone' to placate them into silence.....each conversation
will change one small thing(later the history channel will dub it HUGE)...but back away from the forest and see the whole picture......the thing that must occur is either the plebs keep the conversation fast and furious or just sit back
and become satiated and call it "that's just the way it is"

there is NO WAR between OWS or Tea Party.....they are both part of same said conversation.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Tea Party IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY.......it was the beginning of the same conversation OWS is continuing.....they to will get eaten up by the rhetoric/propaganda and get 'tossed a bone' to placate them into silence.....each conversation
will change one small thing(later the history channel will dub it HUGE)...but back away from the forest and see the whole picture......the thing that must occur is either the plebs keep the conversation fast and furious or just sit back
and become satiated and call it "that's just the way it is"

there is NO WAR between OWS or Tea Party.....they are both part of same said conversation.....


Senders... IMO you are 100% wrong on this issue.

The way I see it, the TeaParty was from the very beginning, an orchestrated event.  With out the
Hannity/FoxSnooze/Beck/Koch/Conservative connection, the TeaBaggers would still be a group of 5 people meeting in a garage
some where.  
OWS was an actual event.  A true 'grassroots' event.
  No corporate connections, no News Channel pounding their message into America24/7,
no Democrat or Republican direction.  (Many Occupiers don't support Obama).
Later, Unions joined OWS, but as supporters, not as leaders of the group.

IMO, TeaBaggers and Occupiers have almost nothing in common.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Occupiers kicked out of coffee shop after harassing customers and causing a scene



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Senders... IMO you are 100% wrong on this issue.

The way I see it, the TeaParty was from the very beginning, an orchestrated event.  With out the
Hannity/FoxSnooze/Beck/Koch/Conservative connection, the TeaBaggers would still be a group of 5 people meeting in a garage
some where.  
OWS was an actual event.  A true 'grassroots' event.
  No corporate connections, no News Channel pounding their message into America24/7,
no Democrat or Republican direction.  (Many Occupiers don't support Obama).
Later, Unions joined OWS, but as supporters, not as leaders of the group.

IMO, TeaBaggers and Occupiers have almost nothing in common.


yes,,,,,they do......they are Americans.......I was associated with Tea Party, why? DISCONTENT(NOT BECAUSE FOX NEWS OR ANY OTHER STUPID OUTLET TOLD ME TO)......OWS, I dont disagree
with them? why? DISCONTENT......

as I see it they are both part of the same conversation that comes from our illustrious leaders.....but, get this,,,even if you believe it was orchestrated the 'they' who did have sewn in the seeds....
hence our current conversation.....

Tea Party is not a religion
OWS is not a religion

a dissident is born.......

long hair freaky people or tighty whitey tie wearers are both discontent......IT IS THE SAME CONVERSATION

but guess what? the leaders now have to dance to the tune of our discontent.......

let's see:

Beck is gone
Olberman is gone
Matthews is next
O'Rielly is next

you see they can pretend to be on my side all they want....but the fact remains that the plebs have to recognize that THEY ARE NOT ON ANYONE'S SIDE FOR THE LONG HAUL......propaganda runs
rampant......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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yes,,,,,they do......they are Americans.......I was associated with Tea Party, why? DISCONTENT(NOT BECAUSE FOX NEWS OR ANY OTHER STUPID OUTLET TOLD ME TO)......OWS, I dont disagree
with them? why? DISCONTENT......

as I see it they are both part of the same conversation that comes from our illustrious leaders.....but, get this,,,even if you believe it was orchestrated the 'they' who did have sewn in the seeds....
hence our current conversation.....

Tea Party is not a religion
OWS is not a religion

a dissident is born.......

long hair freaky people or tighty whitey tie wearers are both discontent......IT IS THE SAME CONVERSATION

but guess what? the leaders now have to dance to the tune of our discontent.......

let's see:

Beck is gone
Olberman is gone
Matthews is next
O'Rielly is next

you see they can pretend to be on my side all they want....but the fact remains that the plebs have to recognize that THEY ARE NOT ON ANYONE'S SIDE FOR THE LONG HAUL......propaganda runs
rampant
......


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Senders... IMO you are 100% wrong on this issue.

The way I see it, the TeaParty was from the very beginning, an orchestrated event.  With out the
Hannity/FoxSnooze/Beck/Koch/Conservative connection, the TeaBaggers would still be a group of 5 people meeting in a garage
some where.  
OWS was an actual event.  A true 'grassroots' event.
  No corporate connections, no News Channel pounding their message into America24/7,
no Democrat or Republican direction.  (Many Occupiers don't support Obama).
Later, Unions joined OWS, but as supporters, not as leaders of the group.

IMO, TeaBaggers and Occupiers have almost nothing in common.


IMHO----SHAME ON YOU




...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Tea party was a Ron Paul fundraising campaign in 2007.  Fox news and the Republican establishment attempted to co-opt the Paul movement by stealing his slogan.  As we see in Iowa, it didn't work.  The OWS is a creation of the DNC in preparation of Obama's 2012 campaign.  Obama is going to divide American by class, then promise economic justice.  First they had to create the goofy 99% vs 1% narrative so they activated the professional anarchist that protest for a living.

The world is a stage.


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Tea party was a Ron Paul fundraising campaign in 2007.  Fox news and the Republican establishment attempted to co-opt the Paul movement by stealing his slogan.  As we see in Iowa, it didn't work.  The OWS is a creation of the DNC in preparation of Obama's 2012 campaign.  Obama is going to divide American by class, then promise economic justice.first they had to create the goofy 99% bs 1% narrative so they activated the professional anarchist that protest for a living.

The world is a stage.


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Tea party was a Ron Paul fundraising campaign in 2007.  Fox news and the Republican establishment attempted to co-opt the Paul movement by stealing his slogan.  As we see in Iowa, it didn't work.  The OWS is a creation of the DNC in preparation of Obama's 2012 campaign.  Obama is going to divide American by class, then promise economic justice.first they had to create the goofy 99% bs 1% narrative so they activated the professional anarchist that protest for a living.

The world is a stage.


CHA-F'EN-CHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

where is chubby (notice I didn't say fat as to offend anyone) Michael Moore when we need someone to punch.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Is that graph how you form your opinions?  Sad.


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Occupiers kicked out of coffee shop after harassing customers and causing a scene



"And you're not allowed to ever come back."

That is great. Someone sticks up for their private property rights, which I love.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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