Quoted from Box A Rox

Cicero is entitled to his opinion...
But...
The rich are now taxed at the lowest rate in modern history, yet Cic thinks that if we tax them even lower, they will invest in America.  In other words... Cicero wants to do even more of what isn't working.  

So you believe HIGHER taxes would encourage people to invest their capital in the U.S. and build factories?  Let me know who your finanical advisor is, so I can avoid him/her.  Your portfolio is probably filled with Greek and Italian bonds.

All higher taxes would do is protect the people that are already rich, making it more difficult for any competitor that may want to compete in the marketplace.  Who can afford to pay high taxes?  The people that have the money.  Who can't?  The people that don't have the money and are trying to compete.

Here's the Greek tax code.  Their top income tax rate is 45% on anybody making over $100,000 Euro's.  High taxes worked well.  America needs the European tax codes, then maybe we can enjoy the same lazy lifestyle of the euro trash.

http://www.worldwide-tax.com/greece/greece_tax.asp

Quoted from Shadow

Neither Reps or Dems have the guts to overhaul the tax code, eliminate the loop holes, and make everybody pay their fair share of the tax load.

there is no FAIR share.....it's an oxymoron

it's like virtual value.....how much is a plumber worth to you? a teacher? a laborer? a welder? a nurse? a doctor? a maid? a cook?

real value...how much is water worth to you? steak? apple? brussel sprouts? wood? iron?

so fair share is like saying----how much is google worth......what is the value of my fair share? hence what is the value of those fair taxes I pay?

fair share return and fair share in taxes paid.........as compared to what?

being served doesn't have value.....so be careful what you pick.....being served is subjective....

If you are on a deserted island what is more valuable drinking water or diamonds?

Some of the elites that control our government may find out just how useless their money really is.

Quoted from CICERO

If you are on a deserted island what is more valuable drinking water or diamonds?

water...unless I want to kill myself...then other things become valuable....

but yes,,,water, wood, food etc......TANGIBLE VALUE.....

is google tangible?

TRADE/BARTER WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN....even if there are no regulations or the 1% or the 99%......

with so much credit and RATING AGENCIES around...we have lost sight of TANGIBLE VALUE........

what is your credit rating and how much water will it get you?

the occupiers have become a 'dead issue'.......nobody gives a hoot about them and their 'non-cause'!

the entire system needs to be changed and these idiotic freaks ain't gonna do it!

OWS has now cost taxpayers 13 million dollars in police overtime and sanitation expenses

http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-protests-cost-nations-cities-least-13m-073242555.html

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Occupiers should consider helping area flood victims

To the Occupiers of Albany: We got your message!
Now, take that energy and channel your efforts to help the people of Schoharie, Middleburgh and surrounding areas hit by the fl ooding.
With all the free food, generators, tents and financial assistance you possess, it is time to focus on those who are in need. Many of the populace affected by the fl oods still does not have the luxury of going back to a home or warm room — as you do after a day [of] causing disruption to a city and its businesses.
Here is your chance to do something really constructive, by helping your fellow neighbor.

EARM AND CAROL O’BREY
Scotia

http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00906&AppName=1

Quoted from CICERO

So you believe HIGHER taxes would encourage people to invest their capital in the U.S. and build factories?  Let me know who your finanical advisor is, so I can avoid him/her.  Your portfolio is probably filled with Greek and Italian bonds.
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I'm not amazed by this scam, I'm amazed that so many people fall for it

According to Cicero... If you throw money at rich people it will create jobs. (Even though the Wall Street Journal says
that the Rich are hiding their money tax free overseas)
Again according to Cicero, the way to make American Jobs is to give money to the rich.  Lets look at the last two times we
tried his plan.
~  2003, the Bush Tax Cut for the Rich... Created how many jobs???  Flat.  The largest Redistribution of Wealth in
US history and no jobs.
~  Again when the Largest Redistribution of Wealth in US History from the middle class to the rich was renewed under
Obama... How many jobs... NONE!  
This is the part that amazes me.  This scam has failed twice, yet Cic and his like minded Conservatives are sure it
will work this time.  (It has to work this time... It just has to!!!)

Try this plan instead...
Drive through the poorest neighborhoods in any city and throw US $100 bills out the window.  Americans will pick up
this money and (my guess) buy stuff.  Pay their rent, buy some food, buy some medicine... It will go immediately into
our economy.
Drive through a middle class neighborhood throw US$100's out the window and those Americans will pay for their
kids college, a new car, pay off their mortgage, go out to dinner, buy a new tv.

Throw those US Dollars out the window in a wealthy neighborhood, and the rich will continue to invest overseas.

The statistics prove that nobody has ever got a job from a poor person, destroy the rich at your own peril.

Quoted from Shadow

The statistics prove that nobody has ever got a job from a poor person, destroy the rich at your own peril.

The Scam Continues!

In my lifetime the rich have gone from a maximum tax rate of 90% (when they continued to become very wealthy) to an
actual tax rate of below 17%.
And Shadow is worried they will go extinct.  
BTW (over 1500 millionaires paid NO TAX last year as the entire middle class DOES go extinct)

The rich won't go extinct and will not suffer paying higher tax rates because they will protect their money the way they always have. The people who will suffer are the middle class because they will be the ones with lower pay or no jobs. One of the NY papers said that the useful idiots were camping in the park in the rain while the organizers were staying in a 5 star hotel.

Quoted from Shadow

The rich won't go extinct and will not suffer paying higher tax rates because they will protect their money the way they always have. The people who will suffer are the middle class because they will be the ones with lower pay or no jobs. One of the NY papers said that the useful idiots were camping in the park in the rain while the organizers were staying in a 5 star hotel.

If you think that the people who will suffer will be the Middle Class... then lets give that huge Bush/Obama tax cut to
the Middle Class.  They will spend it in America. They will invest in the USA.  They may even survive.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Drive through the poorest neighborhoods in any city and throw US $100 bills out the window.  Americans will pick up
this money and (my guess) buy stuff.  Pay their rent, buy some food, buy some medicine... It will go immediately into
our economy.
Drive through a middle class neighborhood throw US$100's out the window and those Americans will pay for their
kids college, a new car, pay off their mortgage, go out to dinner, buy a new tv.

Throw those US Dollars out the window in a wealthy neighborhood, and the rich will continue to invest overseas.

You really believe this don't you?  The Obama $800 BILLION stimulus was exactly what you just described.  I still can't get you to wrap your mind around how the value of $100 is determined.  Throwing out one hundred dollar bills into the streets is the same as handing out debt, which will be paid for indirectly through inflation.  You can't get around it.  

The fact is, when money is taxed or borrowed and redistributed by government, they don't 'throw it around', it is directed into the industries that the politicians determine it is best spent.  Redistributed money always has strings attached.  And it always inflates the costs in the industry they spend it in.  ie; College, Medicine.

Agian box, the tax and social policies you believe are the solutions have been used in European nations like Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland for decades.  Explain to me why it didn't prevent the economic and social meltdown that is occurring right now?

Box will tell you Cicero it failed because the government didn't spend enough money on the problem.