Quoted from bumblethru

And what about the plight of the unborn? Who will speak for them? The most innocent and vulnerable that are murdered for a crime or action they did not commit. The senseless murder of a human being that has it's own DNA from conception. Aseperate DNA from it's mother/father/vessel. A DNA that no one else in the world has. Again.......the core of all civilization!! The building blocks for the future of all humanity.

.........someone MUST speak out for the unborn!!

You are bumble... and no one is listening.  
When you preach "the plight of the unborn" you are preaching to a group of people who don't see it that way.  They see the plight of a pregnant woman making a decision to continue with a pregnancy.

If you care so much... why not sign up to accept the "unborn" when it actually becomes 'born'.
  Why not be forced to accept this baby, care for it, raise it, feed it, put it through high school and college, and then come back for more.  Why not commit to a life long responsibility, that you don't want and can't afford?

***Yadda yadda yadda... the woman shouldn't have had unprotected sex.***
  Possibly the reason she did have unprotected sex, is because people like YOU have shut down her only affordable source for birth control... So possibly you share in the creation of this "unborn".
As part of the reason this "unborn" exists, you and your Conservative com padres should take responsibility for your actions... and be forced to raise this  baby.
Once you are forced to accept this baby, maybe you'll get an idea of the situation women are forced into because of Conservative Self Righteous  Politics.

Quoted from Box A Rox

As part of the reason this "unborn" exists, you and your Conservative com padres should take responsibility for your actions... and be forced to raise this  baby.
Once you are forced to accept this baby, maybe you'll get an idea of the situation women are forced into because of Conservative Self Righteous  Politics.

Geez box, how many of society’s irresponsible decisions to you want conservatives to take responsibility for?  We have to pay to rehabilitate drug addicts, pay for generational welfare and 'baby momma’s' we have to pay to bailout banks for their poor decisions, bailout bankrupt auto makers, fund the insolvent state pension systems, and the list goes on and on and on.  It seems as if EVERY irresponsible decision made in society is passed on to those making responsible decisions.  The best part is, we can NEVER ask those acting irresponsibly to except the consequences of their actions, since the irresponsible are 'victims' of their own actions.  

Moral of the story is - If you play by the rules, live within your means, go to work and work hard everyday, save your money, and pay your bill...You are just they person the government are looking for to bailout and take care of all those making bad decisions and acting irresponsibly.  It's a great system.

Quoted from CICERO

  It seems as if EVERY irresponsible decision made in society is passed on to those making responsible decisions.  The best part is, we can NEVER ask those acting irresponsibly to except the consequences of their actions, since the irresponsible are 'victims' of their own actions.  

Does Cicero take responsibility for his actions when he (and his fellow Rabid Right Wing Women Haters) shut down PP clinics??

Does he take responsibility for the pregnancies HE CAUSED by denying women WHO WANT TO USE BIRTH CONTROL, but he and his his political terrorist have shut down a functioning well run dispenser of low cost birth control?

Cicero wants everyone else to be responsible for THEIR actions... while he takes no responsibility for HIS!

Quoted from Box A Rox

Does he take responsibility for the pregnancies HE CAUSED by denying women WHO WANT TO USE BIRTH CONTROL

This is probably the most warped logic I've heard out of you to date.  Denying birth control?   There's a pharmacy on every corner...They deny NOBODY.  I'm pretty sure the two people it takes to make a baby can scrape enough money between the both of them to purchase some form of birth control.
  
Everybody is a helpless victim in Box's world.  

Quoted from CICERO

This is probably the most warped logic I've heard out of you to date.  Denying birth control?   There's a pharmacy on every corner...They deny NOBODY.  I'm pretty sure the two people it takes to make a baby can scrape enough money between the both of them to purchase some form of birth control.
  
Everybody is a helpless victim in Box's world.  

The choice is between feeding your family or birth control Cicero...
You don't get it.  To you this isn't even conceivable, but to many Americans, it's an every day reality.

Which do you choose Cicero...
~ birth control and your family goes hungry,
or
~ food and you risk an unintended pregnancy that you or your wife can not afford?

Keep shutting down PP and you'll just increase the problem that you profess to want to end... Abortion.

Quoted from Box A Rox

The choice is between feeding your family or birth control Cicero...
You don't get it.  To you this isn't even conceivable, but to many Americans, it's an every day reality.

Which do you choose Cicero...
~ birth control and your family goes hungry,
or
~ food and you risk an unintended pregnancy that you or your wife can not afford?

Keep shutting down PP and you'll just increase the problem that you profess to want to end... Abortion.

That's the choice - food or birth control?  

Let's look at what is defined as "poor" in America, and maybe we can find other sacrifices the 'poor' can make to pay for birth control OHTER than food:

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The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:

Forty-three percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.

Eighty percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.

The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.

Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.

Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.

Eighty-nine percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.

As a group, America's poor are far from being chronically undernourished. The average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and, in most cases, is well above recommended norms. Poor children actually consume more meat than do higher-income children and have average protein intakes 100 percent above recommended levels. Most poor children today are, in fact, supernourished and grow up to be, on average, one inch taller and 10 pounds heavier than the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II.

While the poor are generally well nourished, some poor families do experience temporary food shortages. But even this condition is relatively rare; 89 percent of the poor report their families have "enough" food to eat, while only 2 percent say they "often" do not have enough to eat.

http://www.heritage.org/resear.....f-poverty-in-america

Quoted from CICERO

That's the choice - food or birth control?  

Let's look at what is defined as "poor" in America, and maybe we can find other sacrifices the 'poor' can make to pay for birth control OHTER than food:

Cicero is running from this answer... running like Forrest Gump.
"Run Forrest"

  When asked to answer a very simple question that face many American families... Cicero embarks on a typing frenzy that he hopes will confuse or misdirect the readers from his lack of an answer.

(I think Cicero's politics has just caught up with reality.)

Quoted from Box A Rox

Cicero is running from this answer... running like Forrest Gump.
"Run Forrest"

  When asked to answer a very simple question that face many American families... Cicero embarks on a typing frenzy that he hopes will confuse or misdirect the readers from his lack of an answer.

(I think Cicero's politics has just caught up with reality.)

Running?  Your argument for funding Planned Parenthood was a choice between starvation and birth control.  Without Planned Parenthood, you make it sound the 'poor' would either starve or have a dozen children.  I'm pointing out how in your argument, you offered false choices.  

I don't have to run from anything...I pretty much dismantled your ridiculous arguments.  And when you begin trying to ridicule me, that’s how I know you lost the argument.

Quoted from CICERO

That's the choice - food or birth control?  

Yes, that's the choice...
What would you choose?

Quoted from Box A Rox

Yes, that's the choice...
What would you choose?

Cancel the cable subscription.  Cut back on the A/C usage.

Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
Eighty percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

Quoted from Box A Rox

You are bumble... and no one is listening.  
When you preach "the plight of the unborn" you are preaching to a group of people who don't see it that way.  They see the plight of a pregnant woman making a decision to continue with a pregnancy.

And there are others who speak for the unborn who shares no DNA with the mother in the womb. An individual at conception.....unlike no other human being on the face of the earth. If the unborn could speak, they would be pro-life. Ask any person who has survived an attempted abortion.....they choose LIFE!! Abortion is an abomination against civilization and it's future.

Quoted from CICERO

Cancel the cable subscription.

Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.

OK... Your words, not mine...
62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception, that means that 38% can't afford it. Over a third of the poor are too poor to afford cable, so are struggling to pay bills and you want them to make the choice that you refuse to make...
Food or Birth Control?  Yes, that's the choice...
What would you choose?


When faced with the same choice some poor families are struggling with, Cicero hides under his Conservative Feel Good rhetoric.

Refusing to answer the question doesn't absolve you from guilt, if you and your fellow anti-choice terrorists are CAUSING this problem.

Birth control at PP is income based... at CVS everyone pays the same price.  You take food out of the mouths of poor families to further your political agenda, and then refuse to even acknowledge that YOU are part of the problem.

Quoted from bumblethru

Abortion is an abomination against civilization and it's future.

Again Bumble, that is YOUR OPINION, but most Americans disagree.  Most want Choice.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Birth control at PP is income based... at CVS everyone pays the same price.  You take food out of the mouths of poor families to further your political agenda, and then refuse to even acknowledge that YOU are part of the problem.

Oh really?  My last medication refill was $255 I'd be happy to scan the receipt to prove it ... with Medicare Part D coverage.   What does a person on Medicaid pay? I bet they're paying close to $0 for the same refill.

So MT uses taxpayer subsidized Medicare D coverage for his medical bills, but he objects to a pregnant teen from getting help from taxpayer subsidized Planned Parenthood.  

He must be one of those " Compassionate Conservatives".