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Fox freaks after Ron Paul wins debate

Published: 23 September, 2011, 22:50

If you’ve noticed a lack of Ron Paul in the mainstream media’s coverage of the 2012 presidential race, it might not be an accident. After he placed first in a Fox News poll, the outlet has removed the results from their website without explanation.
Fox had launched an online poll to gauge readers’ opinions on last night’s Republican show-down and asked their audience, “Which GOP presidential candidate do you think won the Fox News/Google debate?” At one point Paul placed in first, with 30 percent of the votes, but a reader of Infowars.com has pointed out that the poll has disappeared from the website, or has been shuffled to another page far from the front of Fox’s political coverage.
Logging onto the poll now produces an error in which the user is told “No content item selected.”
A screen shot of the poll produced by Infowars shows that Paul led with 24,8945 votes, with Mitt Romney trailing in second place with 22,656 votes, of 27 percent of the total. Rick Perry placed third with 15 percent of the votes, followed by Herman Cain with 9 percent.
Speaking from the stage during last night’s debate, Paul reminded the audience that he has been placing quite well in most surveys as of late. The mainstream media, however, continues to ignore him, despite pleasant polling.
When quizzed during last night’s debate from Orlando, Florida on whom he might consider as a running mate, Paul deterred the question and noted that he wouldn’t bother selecting anyone until he made it in the “top two.” In the meantime, Paul said, he was running in third in most national polls.
The mainstream media continues to overlook Paul, however, favoring Rick Perry and Mitt Romney as the frontrunners, and unexplainably offering more airtime to Michele Bachmann. Speaking to CNN yesterday, former presidential candidate and long-time activist Ralph Nader said he thought Paul was perhaps most appealing of the current GOP candidates.
“He wants to get out of these wars overseas, he wants to bring the soldiers back, he wants to cut the bloated military budget, he wants to change some of the anti-civil liberty provisions in the Patriot Act, he hates corporate welfare an all these bailouts of Wall Street crooks,” said Nader. “He ought to get more attention, instead of ten times more attention being given to Michele Bachmann.”
A USA Today/Gallup poll released on Tuesday put Paul as the number three candidate in the GOP race, receiving nearly three times the favor of Bachmann. In New Hampshire, where the first primary of the 2012 race will take place this winter, Paul came in second place, between Mitt Romney in first and Jon Huntsman in second.

http://rt.com/usa/news/fox-paul-debate-poll-257/


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Romney Wins In Orlando

Does Texas Governor and Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry prepare for the debates? He clearly does, he just can't quite carry it off. His signature moment of the night came when he teed up what was supposed to be a devastating indictment of Mitt Romney's flip-flops and get lost somewhere in the middle and barely made it out the other side.
Perry has been coming back to Earth lately, partly on the basis of his uneven debate performances. Orlando didn't do anything to change that dynamic--indeed may have accelerated it.

The Texas governor had a handful of notably bad answers. He had a very compelling reply to Michele Bachmann's suggestion that his HPV vaccine mandate was a gift to the drugmaker Merck. Perry replied that he had been lobbied on the issue by a young woman who eventually died of cervical cancer.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/09/23/romney-wins-in-orlando/#ixzz1YpP2cQBU


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Watching Perry and Mitt go back in forth on how they increased government and flipped flopped on issues should be a wake up call that they're political hacks.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Watching Perry and Mitt go back in forth on how they increased government and flipped flopped on issues should be a wake up call that they're political hacks.


The people who can 'see the difference' are the ones who support ron paul. The others are just brain dead and accustomed to the political rhetoric streaming through the main stream media.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Ron Paul.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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An online poll is NOT a scientific poll.  We all agree on that right???

Just as American Idol or similar voting can stack the deck by swamping the vote with a concerted group of dedicated followers, an online poll has little significance.

Why do the post debate online polls not match the polls taken by independent pollsters?  If Paul wins an online poll, it's taken as gospel... if Paul loses or shows up with single digit support in an actual valid poll, those results (on this board) are taken as "proof of a conspiracy in the MSM".

An example... take a poll on this board, and Paul will get a huge amount of support.  Take a poll in Rotterdam in a random group of Republicans and Paul will most likely finish 3rd 4th or 5th.

Paul is a fringe candidate, much like Ralph Nader, with a very strong, vocal, passionate group of supporters, but that group is also very small compared to the major candidates running in the Republican Primary.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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An online poll is NOT a scientific poll.  We all agree on that right???

Just as American Idol or similar voting can stack the deck by swamping the vote with a concerted group of dedicated followers, an online poll has little significance.

Why do the post debate online polls not match the polls taken by independent pollsters?  If Paul wins an online poll, it's taken as gospel... if Paul loses or shows up with single digit support in an actual valid poll, those results (on this board) are taken as "proof of a conspiracy in the MSM".

An example... take a poll on this board, and Paul will get a huge amount of support.  Take a poll in Rotterdam in a random group of Republicans and Paul will most likely finish 3rd 4th or 5th.

Paul is a fringe candidate, much like Ralph Nader, with a very strong, vocal, passionate group of supporters, but that group is also very small compared to the major candidates running in the Republican Primary.



Ron Paul was 3rd in the most recent "scientific poll", as well as finishing first or second in the recent state sponsored straw polls, winning post debate online polls, and he was second in the most recent New Hampshire "scientific poll" - YET he was second to last in questions asked, and talk time during the Fox News Debate.  The only candidate with less time was Gary Johnson, who was polling LESS than 1%.  As a matter of fact, after looking at the Realclearpolitics averages, THEY DON'T EVEN TRACK GARY JOHNSON.  I wouldn't call that a MSM "proof of conspiracy".  I believe that is PROOF of a conscience decision made by FOX News President Roger Ailes to ignore the polling and limit the exposure of Ron Paul.  

BTW...Ralph Nader never polled higher than 3% in a national poll, and never polled 2nd in any given state.  Ron Paul is MUCH more relevant than Nader ever was. 


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Does anyone remember who was polling in 3rd this time of year in the last election,,,,,,,,,John McCain with 15%, Guiliani and Thomson were the supposed front runners.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Your video proved my point.  Rabid Ron Paul supporters will do anything to promote Ron Paul.  Even stuff a ballot box on an online poll or straw poll.


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