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The fiscal republicans in Glenville plan to use their use their supermajority to overrule the tax cap.,... there is an example of one party rule for you.


it's an F'EN joke anyhow.....tax cap was a farce because the F'EN pensions/COLA's and levy's are just plain STUPID......BECAUSE THE SPENDING IS RIDICULOUS.....the anger out there is growing
HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Pension costs to tax local governments
Budgets likely to exceed state cap
Sunday, August 28, 2011
By Michael Lamendola (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

Retirement system costs for local governments in 2012-13 will exceed the state’s newly imposed 2 percent property tax cap, meaning some property owners could see tax increases of 4 percent to 5 percent next year, according to officials.

By the numbers
According to the state comptroller’s office, the following are employer contribution rates toward the retirement systems:
- 2007 — 11 percent for ERS, and 17 percent for PFRS, for a total of $2.7 billion.
- 2008 — 10 percent for ERS and 17 percent for PFRS, for a total of $2.6 billion.
- 2009 — 9 percent for ERS and 16 percent for PFRS, for a total of $2.5 billion.
- 2010 — 7 percent for ERS and 15 percent for PFRS, for a total of $2.3 billion.
- 2011 — 12 percent for ERS and 18 percent for PFRS, for a total of $3.6 billion.
- 2012 — 16 percent for ERS and 22 percent for PFRS, for a total of $4.9 billion.
- 2013 — 18.9 percent for ERS and 25.8 percent for PFRS, for a total of $5.5 billion.
“Municipalities will be able to raise the property tax levy beyond 2 percent without an override because some pension costs are exempt,” said Peter Baynes, executive director of the New York State Conference of Mayors and Municipal Officials. “We have reached the conclusion that pension bills for cities will rise the most, and their exclusions will be the most, and we estimate the actual cap will be between 4 percent and 5 percent.”
Baynes said municipalities will be hard pressed to adopt budgets without having to override their tax caps. “But that is not going to happen. What is happening is that municipalities are reducing services. The challenge for local government is to balance the need for essential services with the public’s desire for lower taxes,” he said....................>>>>..........................>>>>................http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2011/aug/28/0828_pension/



IT'S IN BOTH PARTIES PANTS........


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The fiscal republicans in Glenville plan to use their use their supermajority to overrule the tax cap.,... there is an example of one party rule for you.


Oh, yeah, now let's go back to the former rep mayor of Schdy, Jurzynski, he proposed a trash fee.   What did Stratton and his crony dems say (I think all, or all but one, council rep was dem at that time)?   Overwhelmingly they said NO WAY and that was the end of that.

But then Stratton becomes mayor, and he "steals" the republican idea and proposes a trash fee saying such a fee will be the saving grace for the city and his 100% dem council--the one party rule--UNANIMOUSLY said YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

And then Stratton increased the trash fee already twice since then.....TWICE since he proposed it and his crony dems said yes.    

And what's worse.   The financially struggling homeonwers are paying TWICE for trash collection.....,.FIRST in the property "tax" (that portion that determined by assessment, and SECOND they pay therough the trash "fee" aka tax.

I trust you don't believe me SB, would you like me to prove it to you?    



Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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the tax cap idea was a vote getter.....

you know the kind---- GET 'ER DONE


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from Smoking Bananas
The fiscal republicans in Glenville plan to use their use their supermajority to overrule the tax cap.,... there is an example of one party rule for you.


What is a "fiscal republican?"
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it is an oxymoran


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u can always find away around anything.... the tax cap is a joke anyways


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So are we to believe that there are no 'conservative dems'?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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sure there are.. they are called rino .. lol


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sure there are.. they are called rino .. lol


nah....zoo animals with their own survival at hand.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Quoted from Smoking Bananas
sure there are.. they are called rino .. lol


Actually, the appropriate term for them is Blue Dog Democrats, which are not generally accepted across the party.


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blue dog dems are from the south, where fiscal and social conservatism is the norm and MC, believe or not, I do believe u. lol


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watch as glenville becomes the first to overturn the cap.....


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And at what rate will their tax increase be? And WHY? Police contracts? Probably.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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