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The actual budget of the fire district does NOT go out for a vote of the residents.   A BOND ISSUE would require a vote of the property owners   --- but if the cost of the expansion was NOT bonded but broken down and included in the regular budget  ---- it would NOT require a vote of the residents.


Obviously this sack of excrement is hinting that Harry Buffonti and his cop friends already have Jacques La Paulino ala' Napolean IV working on the matter in an attempt to screw the voters in that zone. They get the government they deserve. I am glad I am not in that fire district. Sounds like there is an as*f'ing about to occur by the new dictators with scrambled eggs on their shoulders.


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You Rotterdamians should cough up more money for improvements you will need to fight all the fires that will be started in vacant buildings that people got taxed out of.
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someone may by looking to build a new developement and the commish's think this station is inadequate.....?????

any projects on the table?


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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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One factor that affects your home insurance premium is how well your city copes with fires. For example, if your town has a volunteer fire department, your premiums are likely to be higher than those in a community with a professional department.

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Grading your city



The ISO measures your community's phone system, fire-fighting equipment, and water supply to determine its fire-protection class.


The Insurance Services Office (ISO), a New York-based independent industry advisory organization, rates communities throughout the nation on fire-fighting ability. The ISO uses a Fire Suppression Rating Schedule (FSRS) to grade how well a city deals with the reporting of, response to, and fighting of a fire. The FSRS measures fire protection on a scale from one to 10, where one is the best protection class and 10 is no protection at all. The average protection class in the nation is four.

Ten percent of the FSRS grade is based on how well the city's fire departments receive the news of a fire. The ISO reviews the city's telephone network, the emergency dispatch systems, and even the phone book's emergency-number listings to determine how well the city receives a fire call. Your city's having more operators to handle calls and more phone lines going into a dispatch center will help your fire-protection class.

The largest part of a city's grade is determined by the number of fire stations and the amount of equipment it has. The ISO sets a minimum protection standard of one fire station within five miles of a house. If your town is 10 miles wide by 10 miles long and only has one fire station, your community's class is likely to be an eight or a nine. Your town's protection class is an overall picture that's not based on one specific element of fire-fighting.

Another large chunk of your community's fire-protection grade hinges on the water supply. The ISO says that one fire hydrant within 1,000 feet of a home is the minimum standard of fire protection.

Despite what you may have heard, having a swimming pool in your yard will not not help your fire-protection rating.

Upgrade in class doesn't always mean savings

Many home insurance companies use fire-protection-class ranges to set premiums for homeowners. For example, everyone in classes one to four might have the same general premium.



Having a swimming pool in your yard will not help your fire-protection rating.


Remember that many factors go into setting your home insurance premium, so even a rise or drop in your town's grade may not affect your pocketbook. The weight given to fire protection also varies by state. For example, in Florida, where windstorm perils are frequent, less weight is given to fire-protection ratings in determining premiums.

Even if your community's fire-protection class improves and your premiums decrease, you're probably not going to come out ahead. A city may spend money to upgrade, and people will get better insurance rates, but those insurance savings may be offset by higher property taxes to pay for the upgrades.

Knowing thy grade



You're responsible for knowing your fire-protection class.


The ISO will notify your community — most likely your city council — 30 days before a grading change is announced so citizens will have time to contact their insurance companies if they have questions. Insurance companies are notified 45 days before the ISO's announcement in order to prepare for policyholders' questions and to update their coverage-renewal forms.

Unless your local paper reports on a fire-protection class change, you may have no way of hearing about it. Your insurance company is not responsible for telling you if your fire-protection class has changed. You, as a policyholder, are responsible for knowing the law and your community's fire-fighting ability. Calling your local fire department is probably the best way to find out what your fire-protection class is.


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someone may by looking to build a new developement and the commish's think this station is inadequate.....?????

any projects on the table?


Obviously you have been asleep or in a coma during the ENTIRE debate over this referendum --- the station is inadequate NOW .. it doesn't need a new development to make it inadequate.  you Nayboobs need to learn how to actually read and comprehend.


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A 10-category ranking or schedule of public fire protection of cities and towns established in 1916. The grading is currently maintained by the Insurance Services Office for use in making fire insurance rates and to encourage local governments to maintain better fire fighting equipment and personnel. A city or town is ranked in one of the categories by receiving deficiency points for failing to meet established standards under each of these major headings: water supply, fire department, fire service communications, fire safety control, climate, and divergence between fire department and water supply. Protection Class I is the best class (a city or town having fewer than 501 points), and Protection Class 10 is the worst (more than 4,500 points). Also known as fire protection class or town class.
Basically, your hme is too risky for them to insure due to standards being too low, or the city does not meet their standards. Call a Farm Bureau agent, they may actually be able to help you. Good luck, Susu


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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

The Public Protection Classification (PPCTM) Program: ISO's Analysis of Public Fire Protection Capabilities



How does ISO evaluate local fire protection? And what does the classification mean for individual property insurance costs in my community?

ISO’s expert staff collects information about municipal fire protection efforts in communities throughout the United States. In each of those communities, ISO analyzes the relevant data and assigns a Public Protection Classification (PPCTM) — a number from 1 to 10. Class 1 generally represents superior property fire protection, and Class 10 indicates that the area’s fire suppression program does not meet ISO’s minimum criteria.

Virtually all U.S. insurers of homes and business property use ISO’s Public Protection Classifications in calculating premiums. In general, the price of fire insurance in a community with a good PPC is substantially lower than in a community with a poor PPC, assuming all other factors are equal.

For more information about ISO’s PPC program, please visit our special ISO Mitigation Online website.

How can I get the Public Protection Classification for a community?

ISO supplies Public Protection Classifications to insurance companies and agents. Participating customers can access the classifications through ISOnet. If you’d like to sign up for the service, call the ISO Customer Service Center at 1-800-888-4476.

ISO does not supply Public Protection Classifications to policyholders or the general public. For more information, please contact your property insurance company or your agent.

Fire officials and other community officials should call ISO at 1-800-444-4554, selection 2, for help with the PPC information we have for their communities.

How can our community improve its Public Protection Classification?

If your community makes improvements in its fire department, water supply, or emergency communications system, your community may be eligible for a better PPC. Our ISO Mitigation Online website contains a wealth of information on the subject to assist community leaders.

ISO also has a Community Outreach Program to identify communities that have made changes that may affect their PPC codes. We periodically send questionnaires to communities asking about such changes. But you don’t have to wait. You can download the questionnaire from the ISO Mitigation Online website and submit it anytime. Or call ISO at 1-800-444-4554, selection 2, to let us know about your change.



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It's like playing SIM CITY.....interesting


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I have it on good authority that the plan can be implemented and would also be fully approved by the State Comptroller should the entire bill be built into the budget. However with county funding and a 20 year payoff schedule -- the cost may be reduced dramatically in the long term......with a slightly higher per year cost in the short term.. The is a serious public safety risk and intervention from higher levels of government may be called for.

The project DOES NOT require a vote of the residents, if an official bond is not floated. So shove it.
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The public protection class (PPC) cited on a homeowners insurance policy is a measure of how fire-safe an insurer believes the policy holder's community to be. The company takes into account an independent rating when determining a town's fire protection class, and the outcome can potentially affect the premium.

Fire Protection Grading



Every community in the United States is given a grading for its fire-fighting ability. This is assessed by an organization called the Insurance Services Office, an advisory body based in New York. The ISO gives a rating class of between one and 10, where one is excellent fire protection, and 10 is no protection whatsoever.


Factors



The biggest factor in assessing a city's PPC grade is the number of its fire stations and how well equipped they are. Also very important is the number of hydrants and how close they are to homes in the town. For the last part of its rating, the ISO looks at the communications network of a city's fire service, and the community's telephone system, to determine how quickly a fire call will be received.


Minimum Parameters



Insurers like to know that your home is within five road miles of a fire station, and that it has a fire hydrant no more than 1,000 feet away.


Effect on Premiums



Most insurers look at protection classes quite broadly when determining the effect on a policy. Communities in classes one through four might be regarded as roughly equal. However, if your protection class is upgraded, it can be worth contacting your insurer to ask for a premium reduction. Your insurer will not let you know when this has happened, and the only way to find out is to contact your local fire department or town hall.




Read more: What Is Protection Class for Homeowners Insurance? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6328196_protection-class-homeowners-insurance_.html#ixzz1dirluUbh


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In addition to funds raised through taxes, there are two other main sources of funding. The first is funds that are donated to a fire department, such as through coin drops or other charitable fund-raising activities or paid in exchange for facility rentals or special services. The second source is a tax on certain fire insurance policies written by out-of-state insurance companies. Foreign insurance companies contribute two percent of the fire premiums written on property located in the state to be distributed to the fire departments and fire districts statewide. Fire insurance money - $43 million in 2007 - must be used for the benefit of the fire department and its fire companies, as determined by the members. For example, fire insurance funds may be used to purchase dress uniforms, turn out gear, and office equipment; and to pay for installation banquets and holiday parties. However, those funds may not be used to fund a length of service award program, and members may not be compelled to use these monies to defray ordinary operating expenses of the fire department. (A portion of the tax is also used for the support and maintenance of the firemen's home at Hudson, New York.)
Other sources of funding include federal assistance, state grants, county subsidies, and tax-exempt bonds.


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The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Welcome to Local Government Services


The Department is a key resource for local government leaders to foster cooperative and collaborative solutions to the challenges they face. We offer assistance in three specific areas:



Local Government Efficiency including government reorganization and dissolutions, intermunicipal cooperation and regional service delivery.


Land Use Training and Technical Assistance including questions about local planning and zoning matters and training to satisfy annual training requirements.


Community Development and Sustainability including the New York State Smart Growth Cabinet, the Appalachian Regional Commission and the New York City Watershed Protection and Partnership Council.


The Department’s Local Government Efficiency (LGE) program provides technical and financial assistance to help municipalities identify and implement opportunities for efficiency and cost savings. For example, this may include studies to determine if it is efficient to dissolve a village or merge two neighboring police departments.  Grants also fund implementation of these efficiencies and cost savings. Overall, this program has been a great success and is expected to create more than $418 million in savings to taxpayers from $46 million invested in 294 shared services and consolidation projects.



Local Government Efficiency Program

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Department of State Grant Recipients Recognized for Excellence





The Land Use Training and Technical Assistance program is often a local official’s first point of contact with the New York Department of State. Each year, DOS staff train thousands of members of planning boards, zoning boards of appeals, local governing boards, and others at regional training events, through online tutorials, and with our many land use and legal publications. When not on the road, DOS staff trained and experienced in land use planning are available to assist local officials with technical questions about planning and land use regulation by telephone or email.





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IV. Calculating the Tax Levy Limit
Each local government shall calculate the tax levy limit for the coming year as follows:
 First, determine the total amount of taxes levied, not collected, in the prior fiscal year.
 Property taxes levied by a town to fund the town budget under its taxing authority fall within the town’s tax levy limit.
 Property taxes levied by a town on behalf of another local government (e.g. fire district) pursuant to the taxing authority of that other local government fall within that other local government’s tax levy limit.
 Second, if a "tax base growth factor" has been reported to the local government by the Commissioner of Tax and Finance, the total amount of taxes levied for the prior year is to be multiplied by the growth factor.
 Third, add any PILOTs that were receivable in the base year. The total amount of PILOTs receivable is to be included in the calculation of the tax levy limit. No adjustment is permitted.
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 Fourth, beginning for fiscal year 2013, subtract the tax levy necessary to support expenditures for tort actions for any amount that exceeds 5 percent of the local government’s tax levy in the prior fiscal year. There is no subtraction for these expenditures in the calculation for the 2012 fiscal year.
 Fifth, multiply the result by the allowable levy growth factor, which will be provided by the Office of the State Comptroller.
 Sixth, subtract any PILOTs receivable in the coming year. The total amount of PILOTs receivable is to be included in the calculation of the tax levy limit. No adjustment is permitted.
 Seventh, beginning with fiscal year 2013 budgets, add any available carryover from the prior fiscal year. There is no available carryover for the 2012 fiscal year.
 Eighth, unused exclusions associated with growth in pension costs or tort judgments may not be carried forward.


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