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mikechristine1
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I am opposed to spending $3 million on the golf course at a time when that money could be better spent fixing up the neighborhoods ---  



If you believe money is better spent fixing up the neighborhoods (so you claim),
then
Do you believe money is better spent ficxing up the neighborhoods than spenting in on other entertainment stuff
Do you believe money is better spent fixing up the neighborhoods than spendinng on new housing when there is an over abundance of existing vacant housing?
Do you believe money is better spent fixing up the neghborhoods than building gin mills and restaurants?
Do you believe money is better spent fixing up the neighborhoods than giving tax exemptions to millionaires and billioniares downtown?
Do you believe money is better spent fixing up the neighborhoods than giving Philip Morris an illegal STAR exemption?
Do you believe money is better spent fixing up the neighborhoods than taxpayers money to a pair of scumlord tax delinquents, with no requriement that they pay their delinquent taxes before closing on a property they are selling?
Do you believe money is better spent fixcing up the neighborhoods than spending it on a bike path.


Of course this money on the golf course is NOT a necessity by even the remotest stretch of the imagination.   Likewise, spending tax money on gin mills, burriots, hair salons, theaters, catering halls, hotels, bakeries, bike paths, etc is NOT a necessity for people to exist in the city.   Peoiple need safe neighorhoods, adequate infrastructure, and schools.



Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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People on these boards who have intelligence, a brain, and common sense will pick up on the stupid comment made by the city that it won't cost the taxpayers any money.   It was written it will be paid for by bonds.

THese city dems think people are fools.   Just like the school district thought people in the city were fools when the district had a vote for bond issue back in the late 1990s for the building the swimming pool, dance stuff, theater, and playdough rooms.....the district said "it won't cost the local taxpayers money because the state is paying 87% of te cost."    

The school district must have thought the state gets money from a money tree.   Obviously the citys dems are just as stupid.   Guess they don't think the bonds will ever come due, and where will the money come from at that time?

Of course, DV will probably come out with expressing his approval of spending money on the golf course by saying that "it's not taxpayer money" and that will be the sentence that he didn't include in the above post


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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You know what is embarrassing? Watching someone who got caught posting under different names try to "throw people off" by posting some differing opinions. OMG, could ANYONE really believe that could fool ANYBODY? How sad, pathetic, pitiable, and annoying.
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Quoted from Madam X
You know what is embarrassing? Watching someone who got caught posting under different names try to "throw people off" by posting some differing opinions. OMG, could ANYONE really believe that could fool ANYBODY? How sad, pathetic, pitiable, and annoying.



I know, to think we are that stupid.


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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I think a hear a dirty diaper he/she monkey whining and talking to him/her self.   He/she should take his/her meds and go back into his/her padded cage.


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Muny best the way it is

Schenectady has one of the finest municipal golf courses around, and it’s a bargain as well. A plan to invest some $3.3 million in it over the next few years would help make it an even better course, and officials are absolutely right that the improvements must be billed to golfers, not the city’s beleaguered taxpayers. But that will probably mean significant greens fee increases, which could defeat the stated purpose for fixing up the course — getting more people to play it.

Muny’s green fees — on weekdays, $19 for city residents and $25 for nonresidents playing 18 holes — are among the most reasonable in the area. But they have been creeping up over the last decade and are less of a screaming bargain than they used to be — especially for their bread and butter: seniors and others on fixed incomes. Would the players who’ve made Muny one of the area’s most popular still flock there if greens fees were raised, say, $5 per round?

And what about the notion that making Muny even more popular would be a good thing? Golf courses can support only so many players per day without becoming overcrowded. When that happens, play slows to a crawl and rounds take too long. No matter how good or reasonably priced Muny is, golfers won’t want to play there if it gets too crowded. And at times in recent years, it’s seemed close to that threshold.......................>>>>...................>>>>..............https://www.dailygazette.com/news/2011/sep/11/911_prinrt/?mobile
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Even the Gazetto has had enough? OMG! In the Pit Bull City the number one DEM moron priority is dumping $3 MILLION into the golf course. We need a another governmental gin mill! It will still pass 7-0 with all the DEM rubber stamps totting the party line. Another reason to throw the bums out.
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I haven't even commented on this farce. It is the dumbest crap down the pike, right behind the actual Schitnecktitty voter. That is why it will happen.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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It is the dumbest crap down the pike, right behind the actual Schitnecktitty voter. That is why it will happen.


Acting Mayor is a County investigator and has no clue about the pit bull problem. He lies about nonexistent job creation and is pushing this s*** as a major quality of life issue. Dump him and all his pathetic DEM running dogs on Primary Day. Throw them off the CONS and IND lines. Had enough-YET?
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Schenectady has far better places to invest $3M than golf course

    Re Sept. 8 article, “City to invest $3 million in golf course”: Well, I thought our interim mayor was doing a good job until I read the article about the golf course.
    I want to be sure I have my facts right: In the best year, the city gets $100,000 from the course. The plan is to invest $3 million into the course for improvements. This, according to our council leaders and elected officials, is a great idea?
    Well, if you look at it from a business point of view, how long will it take to get the ROI (return on investment)? My calculations come in around 30 years.
    I’m not a business major, and I know they are going to say it will bring people to Schenectady to spend money. Here’s an idea: Take the $3 million and invest it in our streets, buildings and bank-owned properties that ruin our city’s landscape. My business is to take care of those bankowned properties, and the banks really won’t invest in basic cleanup or repairs. I really can’t blame them when city government doesn’t see the big picture.
    Here is a better idea: Fix up the twofamily homes, get the homeless families in there and make the homes a vital part of the community.
    I would hope the city rethinks this idea and does the right thing. I know there was a comment on how this new computerized watering system will be so much better for our environment so we do not waste water. We are watering a weed that grows and then we have to cut it, but the manicured weeds we talk about are so much nicer for the poor golfer. How can we have golfers playing on substandard grass?
    You want to save the ecology of our city? Work on all the garbage dumps left on vacant properties. The golf course, for those who use [it], is a nice place to play.
If improvements are needed, let a private company make the investment and reap the ROI over the 30-40 years it will take to turn a profit.

ROBERT J. SPONABLE
Schenectady

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Investing millions in golf course is a crazy idea

    Re Sept. 8 article, “City to invest $3 million in golf course”: You have got to be kidding me! Spend $3.3 million on golf course improvements at this time? Has the Schenectady City Council got blinders on?
    Do they not see the condition of city streets, decaying neighborhoods, crime, flooding, people out of work, houses in foreclosure or abandoned? It seems to me that the City Council could put this money to better use to improve the quality of life for a large number of its residents, not just the golfers.
Use this money for the parks for children, the neighborhoods, police protection, road improvements, security. I could go on and on before I even gave a thought to the golf course. I’m sure the council will use the argument that the golf course generates income, but is $20,000-$100,000 worth the millions in investment? I don’t think so. And how will making the golf course, which is on the far edge of the city, make anyone want to live in the city? This expenditure should be put to a vote of the citizens in the form of a referendum at election time. Let’s see what the voters think!

LINDA FULLER
Rotterdam

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Hence, the reason why new leadership is desperately needed in the City of Schenectady.

Not only are these two opinions correct, but they are falling on deaf ears. Our forum is a small segment of the opinions of the general public, yet we're seeing more and more people calling the Acting Mayor on his fiscal irresponsibility.

If McCarthy was truly working and acting in the best interest of the people he represents, he would have used this three million fixing the roadways correctly instead of using some temporary measure he put into place.

It's a joke when even DV can't support what his own party is doing. It's time to change.  
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Hence, the reason why new leadership is desperately needed in the City of Schenectady.

Not only are these two opinions correct, but they are falling on deaf ears. Our forum is a small segment of the opinions of the general public, yet we're seeing more and more people calling the Acting Mayor on his fiscal irresponsibility.

If McCarthy was truly working and acting in the best interest of the people he represents, he would have used this three million fixing the roadways correctly instead of using some temporary measure he put into place.

It's a joke when even DV can't support what his own party is doing. It's time to change.  


I have publicly disagreed with other Democrats in the past.  That should not be a surprise -- except to the Republicans and NNN's who insist that EVERYONE agree with them on EVERY issue.   We Democrats think for ourselves -- and sometimes we disagree -- but ALWAYS we work together.  

I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that Acting Mayor McCarthy is acting in what he believes is the best interests of the citizens of Schenectady.   My support for his election has not waivered --- I am behind him 1,000 %.


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hey, looks like no one listen the the voice in the wilderness [check several posts up] about dumping mc on primary day..... gee. why am I not surprised?


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I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that Acting Mayor McCarthy is acting in what he believes is the best interests of the citizens of Schenectady.   My support for his election has not waivered --- I am behind him 1,000 %.


This is the problem with the leadership in Schenectady right now, you say that you are 'work together' but you don't have a firm opinion and/or won't voice it.

What McCarthy is doing is fiscally irresponsible and a slap in the face to a school district which is owed $2 million. It's wrong, and no one in the Council will step up and call him on it because that's not 'working together'.

Working together sucks.
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