The government has gotten sooooooooooooooo damn big and corrupt that neither party can separate themselves from it since they are all the cause of the current mess this country is in!! Ron Paul is the ONLY one that will change the status quo in this country and both sides know that and will do their best to keep him in the back ground so they can ALL enjoy the fruits of OUR labor!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Ron Paul has as much baggage as the rest of the Republican Line up.... his is just in different boxes.
This board looks at Paul as the savior, the messiah, and the "only one" who can save America. The rest of the USA sees Paul as just one more Republican... a fringe candidate.
Since Paul is "the only one"... and so many on this board are 'Paul Purists', I hope they are prepared for the possible outcome of this election where Paul isn't President, and didn't even finish second.
Unless Paul is co opted into running as a VP for some other Republican, his chance of being elected are slight at best.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I hope they are prepared for the possible outcome of this election where Paul isn't Presidentt.
Being prepared is one thing most Paul supporters are and since we pride ourselves as being self reliant we will be better off than most. One thing we do know is the government isn't our savior, that alone puts us way ahead of the train
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Merck & Co., the huge drug company, hit the jackpot. Sure, it's the spreading nanny government and – surprise, surprise, it's fueled by money!
As always – follow the money – but it's more than that. The lives and safety of our children are at stake no matter what the PR says.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry signed an executive order Feb. 2, requiring all girls entering 6th grade in Texas be vaccinated against some of the viruses that cause cervical cancer.
The vaccine in question is new, approved by the FDA on June 8, 2006 and added to the regular childhood immunization schedule on June 29. Talk about fast track! It's Gardasil, made only by Merck, which says three shots over six months are necessary. Cost? $360 or more, depending on the physician.
The vaccine is said to protect against some strains of the human papilloma virus (HPV) which causes some forms of cervical cancer.
There are more than 100 types of HPV; 30 to 40 are sexually transmitted; 15 are associated with cervical cancer. Tests indicate Gardasil protects against 70 percent of those, and 90 percent of genital warts.
Actually, regular Pap tests and proper treatment could solve the problem.
The vaccine doesn't prevent any other sexually transmitted disease and does not prevent pregnancy.
We don't know the effect if it's administered to a girl who already has been infected with HPV – or if it's given at the same time as other routine shots.
Girls in the 6th grade are 11- and 12-years-old but Merck says that all females, aged 9 to 26, should have the shots.
That adds up to a nice pile of bucks for Merck and right now, we're only talking Texas. They're aiming for the whole country – and after that, the world, probably subsidized by U.S. tax dollars in Third World countries.
What a stroke of luck that the governor of Texas decided this vaccine is such a good idea for little Texas girls.
Luck had nothing to do with it.
Perry's a Republican who's apparently forgotten the concepts of ''smaller government'' and ''government out of our lives.''
He's also lost the concept of representative government proposing and passing laws.
Perry avoided dealing with that pesky elected legislature and got the law by signing an executive order.
Some conservative.
He's also a Christian who supposedly wants the votes of those similarly inclined but this move raises questions he might not be comfortable answering.
On the surface, he's got the answers. Cervical cancer is a terrible disease. According to the CDC, there are 9,700 new cases of cervical cancer in the U.S. annually, with 3,700 deaths.
Perry says a vaccine to prevent it is no different from the polio vaccine.
Not exactly. First, the vaccine is barely 8-months-old, scarcely enough time to know how it will work. The truth is, even Merck doesn't know how long the vaccine would be effective. A year, five years, 10?
In addition, new and possibly dangerous side effects could emerge as the vaccine is more widely used over a longer time period. We don't know if these girls, years later, might develop arthritis, auto-immune diseases or brain disorders.
Perry ignores the side effects we already know: in just six months, 82 cases reported to the government, involving neurologic symptoms, joint pain, fever and Guillain-Barre syndrome.
Remember when the highly touted Swine Flu vaccine in the late '70s caused the same conditions?
An immunopathological reaction to the vaccine in some people is believed to have caused about 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome resulting in death from severe pulmonary complications for 25 people. More people died from the vaccine than died from the Swine Flu itself.
Fewer than 2,000 people were involved in the testing of Gardasil – with 102 adverse reactions, including juvenile, rheumatoid and regular arthritis, and 17 deaths, which were said to be unrelated.
So, our children would be forced to be injected with three doses of a vaccine that could cause serious side effects and we don't know the long term safety or efficacy.
It's human experimentation and the government is pushing it.
It's especially disgusting when that push is for ''poor'' children to be inoculated. Sounds like a marketing ploy and in California, it may work. Gov. Schwarzenegger has asked for $11 million more in funding for the shot for 50,000 MediCal recipients aged 19 to 26.
The idea behind the vaccine is to inoculate children before they begin sexual activity. Many parents are concerned the vaccine will be perceived to be total prevention of cervical cancer and genital warts (which it isn't) and be subtle permission to experiment with sex, perhaps at a younger age than might normally be expected.
Gov. Perry also waxes enthusiastic saying that by preventing cervical cancer, we'll save money.
Ah yes, money, and here come some of those uncomfortable questions.
How independent was Perry's decision? How influenced was he by his clear connections with Merck.
First of all, Merck is spending millions across the country to get states to require the vaccine. At this point, some 10 states are considering that.
TV is inundated with what appear to be public service spots but which are commercials for Gardasil aimed at mothers, young girls and women, encouraging them all to have the shots. The idea is ''don't be left out.'' The spots are slick and professional. That kind of propaganda isn't cheap.
They're all over California TV. Not surprisingly, Sally Lieber, the same state legislator who wants spanking outlawed, has also introduced AB16, which would require the HPV vaccine for California girls.
Surely Gov. Perry knows Merck is pushing the vaccine and has doubled its lobbying budget in Texas.
Doesn't it trouble him that Merck has inroads into his own office?
There are three Merck lobbyists in Texas; one is Perry's former chief of staff, Mike Toomey.
State representative Dianne White Delisi (R) is the mother-in-law of Perry's current chief of staff. Delisi is also a state director for ''Women In Government,' a national advocacy group which has gotten money from Merck. According to the Associated Press, a top official from Merck's vaccine division is on the business council of ''Women In Government,'' and (surprise!) members of that group have introduced many of the bills in other states.
On top of that, it's reported Perry got $6,000 from Merck's PAC during his last campaign.
We'll see whether Texas will tell their governor he's out of line.
However, with all the money and PR involved across the country, it'll be difficult for politicians to resist the wall of money thrown at them by a company with a patent and deep pockets.
There's a difference between vaccinations for rampant contagious diseases like measles and requiring new vaccines for diseases that ''exist'' and are only contagious through risky behavior.
It's already been done. The government requires newborn babies be inoculated against Hepatitis B, when the only way to get that disease is by sex or IV drug use.
It's an invasion of parental rights and bad medicine.
But it is good business, for drug companies and the government. We're moving toward mandating every new vaccine on the market. But our children have too many shots now. Every new one further burdens their immune systems. We simply don't know the effect of that.
Not long ago, an anti-diarrhea vaccine was approved and touted and used, until it killed and injured so many babies that it was withdrawn. Oops!
Every ''oops'' is someone's life – but the company has lots of expensive lawyers plus government protection for mandated vaccines. How nice for them.
Mixing medicine and politics is bad medicine. Just wait until they develop an AIDS vaccine. Any bets on how long it will take them to require everyone to have it?
America, the land where we keep the di(ks stiff, the legs spread, and pedophiles and serial killers have more human rights than the human fetus.
Sad but true... pedophiles and serial killers, like the rest of us are "human beings". A human fetus will often become a human being, but until birth, it's status is not the same as a human being.
There are some Conservatives in this country that would offer a status of human being to a human zygote... seen below:
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
A human fetus will often become a human being, but until birth, it's status is not the same as a human being.
Well, unless you are talking about medical malpractice lawsuits against OBGYN’s...Then the human fetus miraculously turns into a human being and no longer is just a clump of cells. Or in the case of the homicide of a pregnant woman, the fetus is miraculously now a murder victim.
If a 'fetus' status becomes more than a clump of cells then the government is waaaaaaay to far in our business....
at the same time the government should have no rights over ones children(allowing non-parental approved abortions)....parents should remain responsible until the 'legal age' of 18...just like the military....will they be perfect at it? nah.....but, the government is more imperfect.....
the government has no right to 'press in'......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
If a 'fetus' status becomes more than a clump of cells then the government is waaaaaaay to far in our business....
So a woman's unborn child should not be protected by law from a negligent doctor, or death to the unborn child from an assault on the pregnant mother? Does that mean a man that doesn't want a child can pre meditate to cause harm the fetus to cause death, he won't be charged with murder?
So a woman's unborn child should not be protected by law from a negligent doctor, or death to the unborn child from an assault on the pregnant mother? Does that mean a man that doesn't want a child can pre meditate to cause harm the fetus to cause death, he won't be charged with murder?
The unborn are protected by law and those who do harm can be charged or sued for the harm of that life in those scenarios, however that life becomes nothing when the mother wishes to carry out the harm and death of that life, yeah kinda fcked up thinking there.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So a woman's unborn child should not be protected by law from a negligent doctor, or death to the unborn child from an assault on the pregnant mother? Does that mean a man that doesn't want a child can pre meditate to cause harm the fetus to cause death, he won't be charged with murder?
either way it's NOT the government's business.....could the woman sue for emotional damage after a harm(not chosen by the mother) kills the baby...probably.....kind of like the lawsuits over loss of service when a couple cant copulate after a car accident.... and besides an attack/rape regardless of a present fetus should carry such a quick whipping punishment that it serves the purpose...
anyhow we already hashed this on another thread....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
if the government can deem a pregnancy is a viable human they can institute whatever belief they want....including what your (after birth human) will learn in school....in more ways than one.....it's not up to the government to preserve life or give it value.....it's up to US....that's how personal it is....if the woman doesn't tell the man she is pregnant and she gets an abortion, IT'S IN HER HEAD for the rest of her life and it's a scar on her organs for the rest of her life.....if she tells the man and wants to keep the baby but the man doesn't want to--it's still in her head for the rest of her life.....either way it's something BOTH parties live with and the government can't fix that.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
...if the woman doesn't tell the man she is pregnant and she gets an abortion, IT'S IN HER HEAD for the rest of her life and it's a scar on her organs for the rest of her life.....if she tells the man and wants to keep the baby but the man doesn't want to--it's still in her head for the rest of her life.....either way it's something BOTH parties live with and the government can't fix that.....
This isn't about the emotional scars of the mother or father...It's about the unnecessary death of a baby...My point is, especially to box...STOP CALLING A PREGNANCY A CLUMP OF CELLS. When in fact that clump of cells is a human life. Let's start by stopping the desensitization of our youth into believing having an abortion is as natural as taking a sh!t.
STOP CALLING A PREGNANCY A CLUMP OF CELLS. When in fact that clump of cells is a human life.
If a man masturbates into a petri dish containing human eggs, he waits a few hours, then starts the dish on fire... Cicero would call that MURDER.
A clump of cells is a clump of cells. They may one day under the right conditions become a human being... (most do not) but until then, they are just a clump of cells.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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