No Bumble... Not as long as Paul is anti-choice and supports the terrorist linked groups like Oath Keepers, he will never get my vote.
I admire some of Paul's qualities, but I don't think he will ever get near the White House. And IMO, if elected he will be a very ineffective president, with both sides of the isle lining up against him, so that he would accomplish very little.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Libs love to be pro choice - accept for creationism...Even if the local school board want's to teach it, the looney's on the left go ape sh*t trying to stop it. & "Force their religion"? They are teaching BOTH evolution and creationism. Aren't you pro-choice?
Some one should explain to Cicero that Science is Science. It relies on facts and proven scientific method. Religion on the other hand, is pretty much the opposite of Science. Articles of Faith... in a supreme being, or magic or miracles, or books written long ago by people who thought that the world was flat, yet some people today will use that book as if it contained SCIENCE. Insane, I know!
Cicero, Religion, like "creationism" is ok in a Religion class. But Creationism is about Religion, and contains absolutely NO science.
To offer a choice between Evolution (Science) and Creationism (religion) will leave a student with a poor education in both.
BTW, In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that teaching creationism in public schools was unconstitutional. The court ruled that teaching creationism was the equivalent of teaching religion - and violated the Constitution because it advanced a particular religion.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
No Bumble... Not as long as Paul is anti-choice and supports the terrorist linked groups like Oath Keepers,
Everybody's a terrorist now. This is awesome to hear...Imagine if the 1960's movement happened in 2010? THEY WOULD ALL BE CALLED TERRORISTS. I don't even think the sworn enemy of the illegitimate left Richard Nixon had the BALLS to call the 60's protesters terrorists. He certainly despised the anti war left, but never called them terrorists. We are hearing a whole new level of discourse from or elected officials toward the American citizens. When you get called a terrorist, or as Biden say "acting like terrorists" Americans should expect a response similar to the way our government has historically responds to all terrorists - VIOLENTLY. Either killed or detained.
Everybody's a terrorist now. This is awesome to hear...Imagine if the 1960's movement happened in 2010? THEY WOULD ALL BE CALLED TERRORISTS. I don't even think the sworn enemy of the illegitimate left Richard Nixon had the BALLS to call the 60's protesters terrorists. He certainly despised the anti war left, but never called them terrorists. We are hearing a whole new level of discourse from or elected officials toward the American citizens. When you get called a terrorist, or as Biden say "acting like terrorists" Americans should expect a response similar to the way our government has historically responds to all terrorists - VIOLENTLY. Either killed or detained.
The protestors of the 60's were "Protestors". A very small number of them may have been terrorists. There were groups, some associated with the left that were terrorist groups... The Weather underground, black panthers... etc Other groups like SDS were, like the teaparty, associated with terrorists but not a terrorist organization.
History is an interesting subject Cicero... you should try it some time.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The protestors of the 60's were "Protestors". A very small number of them may have been terrorists. There were groups, some associated with the left that were terrorist groups... The Weather underground, black panthers... etc Other groups like SDS were, like the teaparty, associated with terrorists but not a terrorist organization.
History is an interesting subject Cicero... you should try it some time.
How many violent protests has the, what you would consider Tea Party(Since liberals keep on growing it into any group that utters the worrds small government, Jesus, or owns a gun) committed? The left AND big govenment RINO's are attempting to create a reality that doesn't exist.
Science is science sure....but it sure as hell ain't exact....a bunch of medical drugs on the market state they dont know the mechanism of action... but we stuff the sh*t in our mouths anyway...and even look for more....kind of like creationism....
but in the bigger picture the seeds of Ron Paul are planted as well as those of the Tea Party Movement and they WILL evolve....just as Berkley/Haight-Ashbury and Woodstock/Hendricks/LSD etc did........
Perry= a NO VOTE
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
I watched a PBS Nova on this very subject... As I understand it, science can trace the genetics of an EVE some 200,000 years ago... but not an Adam. Eve was probably not the first woman, but, since many genetic lines have probably gone extinct, of humans alive today, they can all be traced to one common female ancestor, they call EVE!
It is called the "Mother Eve Hypothesis" -- 1 common mother in Africa (they have also traced all Europeans to 7 women -- "the Seven Daughters of Eve Hypothesis) ---
logically --- if there is a common mother -- there had to be a common father -- the problem is that we can only scientifically trace the female ancestors through mitochondrial DNA ...
so far as I know we have not scientifically proven that a woman can fertilize her own egg .. so someone had to "plant the male seed" --- so logically we must have had a common male ancestor ...
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
PERRY = NO VOTE He is just part of the same dysfunctional machine.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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Seven ways Rick Perry wants to change the Constitution By Chris Moody | The Ticket – 22 hrs ago
Rick Perry has many ideas about how to change the American government's founding document. From ending lifetime tenure for federal judges to completely scrapping two whole amendments, the Constitution would see a major overhaul if the Texas governor and Republican presidential candidate had his druthers. Perry laid out these proposed innovations to the founding document in his book, Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington. He has occasionally mentioned them on the campaign trail. Several of his ideas fall within the realm of mainstream conservative thinking today, but, as you will see, there are also a few surprises.
1. Abolish lifetime tenure for federal judges by amending Article III, Section I of the Constitution. The nation's framers established a federal court system whereby judges with "good behavior" would be secure in their job for life. Perry believes that provision is ready for an overhaul. "The Judges," reads Article III, "both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office." Perry makes it no secret that he believes the judges on the bench over the past century have acted beyond their constitutional bounds. The problem, Perry reasons, is that members of the judiciary are "unaccountable" to the people, and their lifetime tenure gives them free license to act however they want. In his book, the governor speaks highly of plans to limit their tenure and offers proposals about how to accomplish it. "'[W]e should take steps to restrict the unlimited power of the courts to rule over us with no accountability," he writes in Fed Up! "There are a number of ideas about how to do this . . . . One such reform would be to institute term limits on what are now lifetime appointments for federal judges, particularly those on the Supreme Court or the circuit courts, which have so much power. One proposal, for example, would have judges roll off every two years based on seniority."
2. Congress should have the power to override Supreme Court decisions with a two-thirds vote. Ending lifetime tenure for federal justices isn't the only way Perry has proposed suppressing the power of the courts. His book excoriates at length what he sees as overreach from the judicial branch. (The title of Chapter Six is "Nine Unelected Judges Tell Us How to Live.") Giving Congress the ability to veto their decisions would be another way to take the Court down a notch, Perry says. "[A]llow Congress to override the Supreme Court with a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate, which risks increased politicization of judicial decisions, but also has the benefit of letting the people stop the Court from unilaterally deciding policy," he writes.
3. Scrap the federal income tax by repealing the Sixteenth Amendment. The Sixteenth Amendment gives Congress the "power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." It should be abolished immediately, Perry says. Calling the Sixteenth Amendment "the great milestone on the road to serfdom," Perry's writes that it provides a virtually blank check to the federal government to use for projects with little or no consultation from the states.
4. End the direct election of senators by repealing the Seventeenth Amendment. Overturning this amendment would restore the original language of the Constitution, which gave state legislators the power to appoint the members of the Senate. Ratified during the Progressive Era in 1913 , the same year as the Sixteenth Amendment, the Seventeenth Amendment gives citizens the ability to elect senators on their own. Perry writes that supporters of the amendment at the time were "mistakenly" propelled by "a fit of populist rage." "The American people mistakenly empowered the federal government during a fit of populist rage in the early twentieth century by giving it an unlimited source of income (the Sixteenth Amendment) and by changing the way senators are elected (the Seventeenth Amendment)," he writes.
5. Require the federal government to balance its budget every year. Of all his proposed ideas, Perry calls this one "the most important," and of all the plans, a balanced budget amendment likely has the best chance of passage. "The most important thing we could do is amend the Constitution--now--to restrict federal spending," Perry writes in his book. "There are generally thought to be two options: the traditional 'balanced budget amendment' or a straightforward 'spending limit amendment,' either of which would be a significant improvement. I prefer the latter . . . . Let's use the people's document--the Constitution--to put an actual spending limit in place to control the beast in Washington." A campaign to pass a balanced budget amendment through Congress fell short by just one vote in the Senate in the 1990s. Last year, House Republicans proposed a spending-limit amendment that would limit federal spending to 20 percent of the economy. According to the amendment's language, the restriction could be overridden by a two-thirds vote in both Houses of Congress or by a declaration of war.
6. The federal Constitution should define marriage as between one man and one woman in all 50 states. Despite saying last month that he was "fine with" states like New York allowing gay marriage, Perry has now said he supports a constitutional amendment that would permanently ban gay marriage throughout the country and overturn any state laws that define marriage beyond a relationship between one man and one woman. "I do respect a state's right to have a different opinion and take a different tack if you will, California did that," Perry told the Christian Broadcasting Network in August. "I respect that right, but our founding fathers also said, 'Listen, if you all in the future think things are so important that you need to change the Constitution here's the way you do it'. In an interview with The Ticket earlier this month, Perry spokeswoman Katherine Cesinger said that even though it would overturn laws in several states, the amendment still fits into Perry's broader philosophy because amendments require the ratification of three-fourths of the states to be added to the Constitution.
7. Abortion should be made illegal throughout the country. Like the gay marriage issue, Perry at one time believed that abortion policy should be left to the states, as was the case before the 1973 Supreme Court case Roe v. Wade. But in the same Christian Broadcasting Network interview, Perry said that he would support a federal amendment outlawing abortion because it was "so important...to the soul of this country and to the traditional values [of] our founding fathers."
I would agree with all except #2 --- and that one I would have to study and think about a bit more.
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#2 would just turn into an F'EN vote purchase by those who are brainwashed into thinking they are the poorest slobs on earth and NEED those elected just to wipe their a$$es....
it's 3 branches for a reason....THE PROBLEM IS THE INBREEDING
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Has anybody noticed the media manufacturing a new narrative, trying to make it look like a CHOICE. Like Romney and Perry are two different candidates with competing philosophical views? It's hilarious to watch... Romney created Romneycare in Massachusetts and Perry was a Democrat that supported Al Gore for president and campaigned for him. Ron Paul is the only candidate that actually has a different philosophy than these two neo-cons, and he has the voting record to prove it.
Has anybody noticed the media manufacturing a new narrative, trying to make it look like a CHOICE. Like Romney and Perry are two different candidates with competing philosophical views? It's hilarious to watch... Romney created Romneycare in Massachusetts and Perry was a Democrat that supported Al Gore for president and campaigned for him. Ron Paul is the only candidate that actually has a different philosophy than these two neo-cons, and he has the voting record to prove it.
The whole GOP line up is a joke if you look at it. Only 2 candidates I trust that are running right now and that is Paul and Johnson. Johnson was eliminated right off the beginning which is sad because he has a good voting record as well. He is pro-choice so that probably killed him right from the beginning, he might end up being the Libertarian party candidate.
Lets look at the others Perry- Former liberal with ties to Gore and ACORN Bachmann- Former IRS agent who makes Palin look like a genius. Romney- Big government hack with Romneycare being the motivation of Obamacare. Cain- Worked for the Federal Reserve Santorum- Neo-con to the core and doesn't hide it, this is the McCain of 2008
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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