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A Better Rotterdam
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Kind of messed up to question someone's military credentials because they disagree with you? You sound like a Bush supporter taking shots at McCain and Kerry. There are good marines with all diferent political views.
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Kind of messed up to question someone's military credentials because they disagree with you? You sound like a Bush supporter taking shots at McCain and Kerry. There are good marines with all diferent political views.


Like they said........if he were serving today, he would be singing a different tune.

Our men and women in uniform are fighting radical islam/muslims and there are 'some' who support just the opposite. Kind of like the vietnam protestors. 'Some' are so dumbed down, that they actually call this nutjob a 'christian' when this guyNEVER had a connection with any christianity or a church!! BIZARRE!!!  Read the nutjob's manifesto and there is NO reference to christianity!! No mention of Jesus. Never carried a bible around. It was lazy and irresponsible reporting and the dumbed down fell for the scam!!



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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It is really sad boxy that you actually take this horrific tragedy and use it to further your 'whatever' agenda. I can not even believe that you were ever a Marine! I have friends and family.....some are serving now and some are done. In fact I suggested that they read your posts.....yes they do have computer access 'over there'......and frankly my leatherneck cyber friend, they don't believe that you were ever a marine!!

they have 'all' collectively stated that if you were serving today....like they are......you would be singing a different tune.

GOD, COUNTY, CORP........Remember?  

Their motto........Remember Love your country, but fear your government...

They are right wing christians MARINES.......as you would refer to them as!


When I was in the Marines, it was God Country and Corps...
The "Fear your government" part must have come from their Right Wing Background, not the Corps.



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I never said he was a christian? But I will try to stretch and interpret your logic, so you are saying that since Box called this guy a right wing christian extremist, when in fact he was just a right wing extremist, you could teach him a lesson by doubting his military service to our country? I guess I can get there, but I still think there are better ways to make an argument than trying to disparage someone's service to our country.
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Like they said........if he were serving today, he would be singing a different tune.

I have many friends from my Marine days... some with similar politics, some not... My son was a Marine, and a cousin's son still in the Marines in who served in Iraq.  A friend from my Marine days is in Afghanistan now as a contractor.

Marines, like all Americans, have varying views on politics... from Left to Right.   If you think there is one USMC political view, you are mistaken.  



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Better,
Bumble has a John Wayne view of the Marines.  He thinks that they obviously have a Right Wing view, vote Republican and fear their government.  That scenario fit his political agenda... if you disagree, even if he was never a Marine and you were... then YOU MUST BE MISTAKEN, NOT HIM.  

There are Muslim Marines, Atheist Marines, Agnostic Marines, Jew, Buddhist, Wiccan and Christian Marines.  Marines vote for Peace candidates, Republicans, Democrats, Socialists...  In other words, Marines are just like the rest of America in their political and religious views.  
(Of course only Marines are better at it   )


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U.S. media equates terrorism with Muslims:

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So is Obama going to fly unmanned drones into Norway to take out the "right wing" Norwegian terror network?  You know, to be politically correct, he should start bombing non-muslim countries since ALL U.S. military action against "terrorism" is taking place in predominately Muslim countries.  We don't want to offend Muslims and use historical fact and logic, knowing that in the past 10  years a vast majority of large scale bombings were done by radicalized Muslim terrorist network or terrorist cells.  That would only make sense and show that the U.S. is sensitive and not "islamiphobic".


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Breaking news for wishful Democrats: George W. Bush isn't running for anything but exercise..


George Worst Bush should be running... after what he did to the US economy, he should keep running till he reaches the tip of South America, then stop running and start swimming!



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THE CHRISTIAN TERRORIST: THE GREATEST ENEMY IS THE ENEMY WITHIN
BY MICHAEL SAVAGE

IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE NORWAY MASSACRE, TALKING HEADS ARE TELLING US THAT THE CRIMES OF THE ANDERS BEHRING BREIVIK ARE SIMPLY THE PRODUCT OF INSANITY. TODAY HIS LAWYER CLAIMED THAT HIS BELEIFS ARE INSANE. EVERYONE IS CLAIMING THAT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS CHRISTIANITY. THE LEPRECHAUN ON FOX NEWS EVEN SAID, “BREIVIK IS NOT A CHRISTIAN.”

BUT THE TERRIBLE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT BREIVIK IS A CHRISTIAN. HE LOUDLY PROCLAIMS HIS CHRISTIANITY. HE CALLS HIMSELF “100% CHRISTIAN” IN HIS MANIFESTO. HE CLAIMS TO BE A MEMBER OF THE “KNIGHTS TEMPLAR,” WHICH IS PRESUMABLY A REINVENTION OF THE 12TH CENTURY CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATION WHICH PARTICIPATED IN THE CRUSADES. WHEN HE JUSTIFIES HIS VIOLENCE, HE QUOTES THE BIBLE – LUKE, MATTHEW, ISAIAH, DANIEL, 1 CORINTHIANS, 2 CORINTHIANS, EXODUS, SAMUEL, JUDGES, AND PSALMS. THE MANIFESTO SAYS “GOD WILL ANOINT YOU WITH HIS POWER TO GO INTO BATTLE,” AND “GOD CAN BE A MAN OF WAR IF HE WANTS TO BE.”  . EVEN THE DATES LISTED IN HIS MANIFESTO ARE ALIGNED WITH DATES IN THE HISTORY OF THE CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM CONFLICTS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE DATE HE SELECTED FOR THE FINAL PURGE OF MUSLIMS FROM NORWAY WAS IN 2083, THE 400TH ANNIVERSARY OF 1683 AT THE BATTLE OF VIENNA, WHERE THE MUSLIM OTTOMAN EMPIRE WAS DEFEATED AND STOPPED FROM INVADING THE REST OF EUROPE. JUST AS THE RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIM, THIS RADICAL CHRISTIAN TERRORIST IS A CHRISTIAN. AND JUST AS MODERATE MUSLIMS MUST SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE VIOLENT ACTS OF THEIR RADICAL BRETHREN, CHRISTIANS MUST SPEAK OUT STRONGLY AGAINST THIS RADICAL TERRORIST WITHIN THEIR RANKS.

RADICAL MUSLIM TERRORISTS DISTORT THE KORAN AND THE ISLAMIC TRADITION IN WAYS MOST MUSLIMS WOULD NEVER ACCEPT. BUT NEVERTHELESS, THEY BASE THEIR TERRORISM IN THAT TRADITION. ANDERS BREIVIK HAS DONE THE SAME. THE ISLAMOFASCISTS ATTACK AND KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE IN ORDER TO FURTHER THEIR OWN RADICAL ENDS. THEY’VE KILLED THEIR OWN PEOPLE IN IRAQ, IN MOROCCO, IN AFGHANISTAN. WHY? MANY ISLAMIC RADICALS GREATER ANIMOSITY TOWARD DISSENTING MUSLIMS THAN TOWARD WESTERNERS. IN PAKISTAN, THE RADICAL GROUP SUNNI MUSLIM GROUP SIPAH-I-SAHABA HAS NOT ONLY KILLED MANY MEMBERS OF THE SHIA MINORITY, BUT MANY OF THEIR OWN SUNNI CLERICS AS WELL, BECAUSE THE CLERICS REJECTED THEIR EXTREMIST AGENDA. OFTEN, IMPOSING THEIR RADICAL VISION OF ISLAM IS MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM THAN HATRED OF THE WEST.

SIMILARLY, THIS CHRISTIAN TERRORIST TARGETED HIS OWN PEOPLE. HE WANTED TO KILL MEMBERS OF THE LABOR PARTY, NATIVE BORN NORWEGIANS, BECAUSE IN HIS TWISTED MIND, ELIMINATING MEMBERS OF A LIBERAL POLITICAL PARTY IN HIS OWN COUNTRY WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO HIM THAN ELIMINATING AN OUTSIDE THREAT.  I’VE SAID TIME AFTER TIME ON THIS SHOW THAT THE GREATEST VICTIMS OF RADICAL ISLAM ARE THEIR OWN CO-RELIGIONISTS. AND NOW A RADICAL CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST HAS ATTACKED HIS OWN PEOPLE IN ORDER TO FURTHER HIS EXTREMIST CAUSE.

IT’S TRUE THAT ANDERS BREIVIK TWISTED THE CHRISTIAN TRADITION IN DIRECTIONS 99 PERCENT OF CHRISTIANS COULD NEVER ACCEPT. BUT HIS VIOLENCE WAS BASED IN CHRISTIAN THOUGHT AND HISTORY. THE ISLAMOFASCISTS KILL THEIR OWN IN PAKISTAN, IRAQ, AND AFGHANISTAN. THE RADICAL SIKH HINDUS KILLED THEIR OWN WHEN THEY BLEW UP AIR INDIA FLIGHT 182 IN 1985 AND KILLED 22 INDIANS. AND NOW A RADICAL CHRISTIAN TERRORIST IN NORWAY HAS KILLED HIS OWN AS WELL. WE FIND THAT THE GREATEST ENEMY IS THE ENEMY WITHIN. AND THOSE WHO REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONNECTION WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO STOP THIS MADNESS WITHIN THEIR RANKS.

http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.c.....is-the-enemy-within/
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Right Wing Terrorists... or as the Republicans would call them... "Isolated Incidents" .  Lots of em.



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Another clever (or not so clever) attempt to compare government supported, well funded, well armed organized Muslim global terror network, to individual radical extremists.   Every person in that video acted independently without centralized training, funding or direction.  Unlike the Muslim counterparts, who are all trained and read the same manuals provided by Al Qaeda and carry out their terrorist acts at the direction of a cleric or other Muslim leader.

This video is an example of creating an alternate reality on the level of a Michael Moore Prop-umentary.


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Just as one Muslim terrorist might be recruited from a rural village and fed Religious crap to ready him for his crime...
Just watch Religious Right programing that promotes murder of abortion doctors.  It's very similar.
Both groups use religion as an excuse to commit a crime of terrorism.
Both groups single out 'unstable candidates' to carry out their terrorist acts.
Other than the landscape and uniforms, an AlQaeda terrorist training camp and a Right Wing Militia terrorist camp are very similar...  (The Americans usually use M16's, AlQaeda usually uses AK47's) otherwise very similar training, tactics, secrecy, communications and religious indoctrination.


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Just as one Muslim terrorist might be recruited from a rural village and fed Religious crap to ready him for his crime...
Just watch Religious Right programing that promotes murder of abortion doctors.  It's very similar.
Both groups use religion as an excuse to commit a crime of terrorism.
Both groups single out 'unstable candidates' to carry out their terrorist acts.
Other than the landscape and uniforms, an AlQaeda terrorist training camp and a Right Wing Militia terrorist camp are very similar...  (The Americans usually use M16's, AlQaeda usually uses AK47's) otherwise very similar training, tactics, secrecy, communications and religious indoctrination.


Yup, exactly the same.


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"Sovereign Citizens,"  just another "isolated incident" according to Conservatives press releases, but a Right Wing Terrorist group according the FBI.

Five people in the Fairbanks area were arrested Thursday by state and federal law enforcement on charges connected with an alleged plot to kidnap or kill state troopers and a Fairbanks judge, according to the Alaska State Troopers.
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ANCHORAGE—United States Attorney Karen L. Loeffler announced today, March 17, 2011, that Lonnie G. Vernon, Karen L. Vernon, Coleman L. Barney, and Francis Schaeffer Cox were indicted by a federal grand jury in Anchorage on federal conspiracy and firearms charges.
In the first of two indictments, Lonnie Vernon and his wife Karen Vernon are charged with conspiracy to murder a federal district judge and an Internal Revenue Service employee, threatening to murder the judge and the judge’s family, and conspiracy to possess an unregistered firearm silencer and grenades. Lonnie Vernon is also charged in the same indictment with illegally possessing a machine gun and possessing a firearm equipped with a silencer in furtherance of a federal crime of violence. This indictment supersedes an earlier federal indictment charging Lonnie Vernon with threatening to murder a federal district court judge and his family.

Machine guns,silencers, hand grenades... Just some good ole boys havin fun... in the Right Wing press, but Terrorists  by the FBI.
(FBI Report)
http://www.fbi.gov/anchorage/p.....eral-firearms-crimes
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In an indictment against the nine unsealed on Monday, the Justice Department said they were part of a group of apocalyptic Christian militants who were plotting to kill law enforcement officers in hopes of inciting an antigovernment uprising, the latest in a recent surge in right-wing militia activity.
A Michigan militia Right Wing Terrorist cell, the kind that Cicero thinks don't exist and have nothing to do with terrorism.  
Cicero has a right to his opinion and the FBI has a right to their Professional Opinion.
(NY Times)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/us/30militia.html


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