No...I'm pretty sure I quoted you saying that NH's defunding of Planned Parenthood would create a "baby boom" the NH would have to deal with the cost of putting poor mothers on welfare and social services.
That's how I read it but I guess I was wrong, according to Box this is a conservative conspiracy to eliminate the poor people in NH. Didn't Box call you a conspiracy theorist earlier today lmao
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
NH will deal with the baby boom this will create, and since most of these women are poor, this will push them on to welfare and social services. Great money saver this!
I'm saying that poor women with no health care, now that NH has shut down low cost breast exams, cervical cancer and STD screening... Will get sick...some will die, many will get pregnant that wouldn't have if PP still offered birth control... and in the end, the Republicans will get their way. More women will get sick, get cancer, get STD's and die. But eliminating the poor won't necessarily be a bad thing for the Conservativs in the group.
So without Planned Parenthood, many of these women you are referring to, that because of their place on the socioeconomic scale, they lack intelligence and self control and would start having crazy sex with multiple sexual partners, increasing their chances of catching STD's and having MORE unwanted babies, that would ultimately be pushed onto the New Hampshire welfare and social services costing the state money.
What a sad assessment of American women Box. You paint a grim picture of a bunch of disease ridden baby factories that will be a burden to society if government doesn't provide them with cheap birth control and antibiotics.
So without Planned Parenthood, many of these women you are referring to, that because of their place on the socioeconomic scale, they lack intelligence and self control and would start having crazy sex with multiple sexual partners, increasing their chances of catching STD's and having MORE unwanted babies, that would ultimately be pushed onto the New Hampshire welfare and social services costing the state money.
What a sad assessment of American women Box. You paint a grim picture of a bunch of disease ridden baby factories that will be a burden to society if government doesn't provide them with cheap birth control and antibiotics.
When was the last time you had a conversation with a woman under 30 years old ? really dude your analogies are a bunch of nonsense- and dont say you're quoting boxorocks- " so you mean to tell me this- so you mean that " my god man do you mean to tell me if my uncle ad t1ts he would be my aunt -
When was the last time you had a conversation with a woman under 30 years old ? really dude your analogies are a bunch of nonsense- and dont say you're quoting boxorocks- " so you mean to tell me this- so you mean that " my god man do you mean to tell me if my uncle ad t1ts he would be my aunt -
When debating box who continuously uses hyperbolic rhetoric like saying the will be a "baby boom" and increased STD's, and breast and cervical cancer, welfare, social services, chicken little the sky is falling if Planned Parenthood is defunded, I will use as hyperbolic rhetoric in response.
BTW-What's the conversation with women under 30 have to do with anything? I'm missing your point.
Since abortion is only 3% of PP's operation, and since it isn't presently taxpayer funded now, that part of PP will probably be continued by some other provider. Many PP offices don't provide abortion but will refer a woman to one that does. Birth Control is a huge part of what PP does. Low cost, or No cost birth control plus makes a huge difference in a womans future. In any group of woman, if you take away the source of their birth control or increase the cost of their birth control, the end result will be more UNWANTED pregnancy... more babies means women losing their jobs due to pregnancy or lack of child care. The population of the world is close to 7 billion people. It didn't get that way by accident. With out inexpensive family planning, more women will get pregnant, and many more will deal with that pregnancy by abortion. The end result of ending pp funding will be more abortions... but that's ok with the Righties who are unconcerned with the plight of women... they are more interested in their lame attempt at legislating morality. 7 billion people so far... I don't think that approach is working very well.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Hmmm population control, that was Margaret Sanger's idea also, however she wished to use these methods to eliminate the black race.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Hmmm population control, that was Margaret Sanger's idea also, however she wished to use these methods to eliminate the black race.
Population control is a system to limit the population... Birth control is a system to limit your own pregnancy. If you don't know the difference... but of course you do... you were just, once again, injecting race into an argument about freedom.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Population control is a system to limit the population... Birth control is a system to limit your own pregnancy. If you don't know the difference... but of course you do... you were just, once again, injecting race into an argument about freedom.
Sorry if you don't want to hear the truth but PP was started as a way to stop blacks from increasing in population, you can't deny that. Sanger made it very clear about her intentions for using birth control and abortion and it wasn't about freedom I can tell you that. I find it funny you would bring up the population size while supporting PP knowing their history
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
In New Hampshire a woman paid an average of $5 to fill a birth control pill prescription at Planned Parenthood clinics, or if she was very poor, she got her birth control for free. With out Planned Parenthood, these women now pay between $40 to over $100 for birth control pills at a pharmacy. How does this help the women of New Hampshire? The same thing happens when women show up to refill their prescription for antibiotics to treat a urinary tract infection... they are turned away because of Right Wing Politics.
For those of you interested in Freedom, and Representative Government, you might be interested that the New Hampshire lawmakers rejected multiple attempts to defund Planned Parenthood during the 2011 legislative session, voting repeatedly in favor of continuing to fund PP using the state's federal family planning money. The will of the people of New Hampshire is to continue funding PP... but the Executive Council, which oversees state contracting overturned the decisions of both the state legislature and the Department of Health and Human Services with its 3-2 vote against Planned Parenthood.
The legislature of NH is for PP and have repeatedly voted to fund PP. The people of NH are for funding PP. But A hand picked Right Wing council has decided that they will override the will of the people and force the state of NH to abide by the rabid Right Wing anti choice enforcers.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Sorry if you don't want to hear the truth but PP was started as a way to stop blacks from increasing in population, you can't deny that. Sanger made it very clear about her intentions for using birth control and abortion and it wasn't about freedom I can tell you that. I find it funny you would bring up the population size while supporting PP knowing their history
You are spot on!! Although most pro-abortionists try to bury this information and sugar coat it!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Sorry if you don't want to hear the truth but PP was started as a way to stop blacks from increasing in population, you can't deny that. Sanger made it very clear about her intentions for using birth control and abortion and it wasn't about freedom I can tell you that. I find it funny you would bring up the population size while supporting PP knowing their history
She was a racist like most liberals today. Notice how most PP's are located in the black neighborhoods. Bravo to New Hampshire. This will sweep the nation. Of course, the last State to restrict abortion on demand will be New York State. The first State that legalized abortion.
3% of PP's work is abortion. So cutting PP will interfere with and delay a woman seeking an abortion. Instead of getting an early abortion in her own state, she will have to take a weekend away, and travel to a neighboring state, when she has enough money to travel and afford the procedure. She will no longer have access to free or low cost birth control. She will no longer have access to free or low cost gyno or breast exams. She or her partner will no longer have free or low cost access to STD exams. She will no longer have access to the 97% of PP services that all women need.
What will be the result? ~ A few more unwanted babies will be born. (Is that what was desired by cutting funding to PP?) ~ Many more abortions will be pushing the legal time frame for abortion, with more and more pushed into the dreaded late term abortion. (Is that what was desired by cutting funding to PP?) ~ Many more women will not find out that they have breast, uterine, or cervical cancer and may die because of it. (Is that what was desired by cutting funding to PP?) ~ Both men and women who suspect that they may have contracted a STD will delay or even never go for testing and treatment, causing a rise in Sexually Transmitted Disease. This problem will be especially devastating for high schools where a minor outbreak of STD's will turn into an epidemic, because PP was shut down. (Is that what was desired by cutting funding to PP?)
Since taxpayer funding for abortions was never a part of PP, and abortions will continue to be preformed only now they will be later in a pregnancy, done by unqualified illegal practitioners, or done by 'home remedies' that are dangerous and unreliable. Exactly What Is The Purpose Of Cutting Off Funding For PP? Vindictiveness? Hate? Misogyny? A Misguided Attempt to Legislate a Religious View? Political Gain? What ever the motivation, it won't end a woman's right to choose, just make it more expensive, and later in her pregnancy.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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She was a racist like most liberals today. Notice how most PP's are located in the black neighborhoods. Bravo to New Hampshire. This will sweep the nation. Of course, the last State to restrict abortion on demand will be New York State. The first State that legalized abortion. 
