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You left out the biggies...

5. I'm going to give you the Rich a huge tax cut, a total redistribution of wealth...
6. I'm going to let the polluters write the laws on pollution.
7. I'm going to let the bankers write the laws that regulate banks.
and worse of all...
8. I'm going to give the powerful more power and cut any chance at power from those who now have
little or none.
the list is endless....divide divide divide divide.....shame shame shame shame shame on those
who keep electing politicians who work against the American people and for the Rich and Powerful.



I don't disagree....but to make it personal and divide via who we are individually is wrong....

I'll talk about the system, but I won't agree that I give a rats A$$ if one is 'rich'....and I certainly DO NOT put
faith in another person to tell me what they think is 'fair share'....

I can tell you for a fact that I am 'rich' compared to ALOT of folks....

I put myself through school
I set my alarm everyday
I dress myself everyday
I did not pay someone else to clean my home
I did not over purchase because I thought I should 'fit in' somewhere
I wash myself
I cook for myself

I don't have to stay where I am for a job
I don't have to have kids
I don't have to be married

BUT I'LL BE DAMNED IF SOME LACKEY TELLS ME IT'S NOT ENOUGH OR IT'S TOO MUCH....

wealth is NOT about money...wealth is managing what you have, making the best of it and squeezing out every drop
of pleasure/pride/value etc out of what you have made for yourself, based upon your own decisions in life...

sure there are folks in one's life that are 'there for ya'....good....

when my leader tells me that I'm a poor pathetic slob and someone else has sh!t I should have/want/need, I
really have to toss that snake oil salesman out with the bathwater....

dividing by making an enemy is poor leadership...

I haven't seen him approach the Feds yet....I wonder why? BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WORKS FOR HIM TOO....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I don't disagree....but to make it personal and divide via who we are individually is wrong....
I'll talk about the system, but I won't agree that I give a rats A$$ if one is 'rich'....and I certainly DO NOT put
faith in another person to tell me what they think is 'fair share'....
I can tell you for a fact that I am 'rich' compared to ALOT of folks....
I put myself through school
I set my alarm everyday
I dress myself everyday
I did not pay someone else to clean my home
I did not over purchase because I thought I should 'fit in' somewhere
I wash myself
I cook for myself
I don't have to stay where I am for a job
I don't have to have kids
I don't have to be married
BUT I'LL BE DAMNED IF SOME LACKEY TELLS ME IT'S NOT ENOUGH OR IT'S TOO MUCH....
wealth is NOT about money...wealth is managing what you have, making the best of it and squeezing out every drop
of pleasure/pride/value etc out of what you have made for yourself, based upon your own decisions in life...
sure there are folks in one's life that are 'there for ya'....good....
when my leader tells me that I'm a poor pathetic slob and someone else has sh!t I should have/want/need, I
really have to toss that snake oil salesman out with the bathwater....
dividing by making an enemy is poor leadership...
I haven't seen him approach the Feds yet....I wonder why? BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WORKS FOR HIM TOO....


A great rant... looking for an issue on which to land.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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President Barack Obama meets with the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2012, in the State Dining Room of the White House. | AP Photo

Many business leaders may feel discomfort in appearing to embrace the president. | AP Photo
By JOSH GERSTEIN | 7/18/12 4:37 AM EDT

President Barack Obama’s Jobs Council hasn’t met publicly for six months, even as the issue of job creation dominates the 2012 election.
White House: Obama too busy
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For starters, there’s the discomfort many business leaders may feel in appearing to embrace the president with his reelection bid in full swing.

(Also on POLITICO: White House: Obama's plate too full for Jobs Council)

Then, there’s the fact that some members of the commission have conspicuously declined to endorse him. And that Obama has conspicuously declined to endorse some of their recommendations. And that some of what Obama won’t endorse has been warmly embraced by Republicans, including likely GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

To cap it all off, several of the companies whose CEOs serve on the panel are involved to some extent in outsourcing — a fact that could undercut the ferocious attack Obama and his campaign are mounting on Romney over his alleged ties to the practice.

One former administration official said the current political atmosphere could be prompting the CEOs and other business leaders to lie low.

“The thing is supposed to be bipartisan, so a lot of times they don’t want to get into things that could be used by either side in the election,” said the former aide, who asked not to be named. “The businesspeople, for the most part, don’t want to get into the middle of political fighting.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78637.html#ixzz211EBKD7h
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More than 1.5 million older Americans already have lost their homes, with millions more at risk as the national housing crisis takes its toll on those who are among the worst positioned to weather the storm, a new AARP report says.

Older African-Americans and Hispanics are the hardest hit.

"The Great Recession has been brutal for many older Americans," said Debra Whitman, AARP's policy chief. "This shows that home ownership doesn't guarantee financial security later in life."

Even working two jobs hasn't been enough to allow Jewel Lewis-Hall, 57, to make her monthly mortgage payments on time. Her husband has made little money since being laid off from his job at a farmer's market, and Lewis-Hall said her salary as a school cook falls short of what she needs to make the payments on her home in Washington.

Lewis-Hall and her husband have been making their payments late for about a year, but panic didn't set in until recently, when the word "foreclosure" showed up in a letter from the bank.

"You're used to living a certain way, but one thing leads to another," Lewis-Hall said. "It's not like I have a new car or anything. I'm driving one from 1991."

According to AARP:

        About 600,000 people who are 50 years or older are in foreclosure.
        About 625,000 in the same age group are at least three months behind on their mortgages.
        About 3.5 million — 16 percent of older homeowners — are underwater, meaning their home values have gone down and they now owe more than their homes are worth. http://www.cnbc.com/id/48240142
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US home sales drop 5.4 pct., fewest since October
US sales of previously occupied homes drop 5.4 percent to 4.37 million, lowest since October.
Associated PressBy Christopher s. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer | Associated Press
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans bought fewer homes in June than May, indicating the weak economy could make a modest housing recovery choppy.

The National Association of Realtors said Thursday that sales of previously occupied homes fell 5.4 percent in June to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.37 million homes. That's the fewest since October.

Sales are up 4.5 percent from a year ago, evidence that the market is still recovering. But the annual sales pace is below the 6 million that economists consider healthy.

The June drop in completed re-sales contrasts with more encouraging data that show gains in new residential construction, higher builder confidence and more signed contracts to buy previously owned homes.

"It is only one month and the rest of the housing indicators have all continued to show improvement," said Jennifer Lee, senior economist at BMO Capital Markets. "Let's hope this June decline is a blip."

The number of first-time buyers, critical to a housing recovery, made up just 32 percent of sales. That's down from 34 percent in May. In healthy markets, first-time buyers make up more than 40 percent of the market.

The median home price rose 5 percent to $189,400. That's mostly because sales of more expensive homes rose, while sales of cheaper homes fell, the Realtors group said.
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US home sales drop 5.4 pct., fewest since October
US sales of previously occupied homes drop 5.4 percent to 4.37 million, lowest since October.
Associated PressBy Christopher s. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer | Associated Press
Yahoo! Finance Portfolio

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans bought fewer homes in June than May, indicating the weak economy could make a modest housing recovery choppy.

The National Association of Realtors said Thursday that sales of previously occupied homes fell 5.4 percent in June to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.37 million homes. That's the fewest since October.

Sales are up 4.5 percent from a year ago, evidence that the market is still recovering. But the annual sales pace is below the 6 million that economists consider healthy.

The June drop in completed re-sales contrasts with more encouraging data that show gains in new residential construction, higher builder confidence and more signed contracts to buy previously owned homes.

"It is only one month and the rest of the housing indicators have all continued to show improvement," said Jennifer Lee, senior economist at BMO Capital Markets. "Let's hope this June decline is a blip."

The number of first-time buyers, critical to a housing recovery, made up just 32 percent of sales. That's down from 34 percent in May. In healthy markets, first-time buyers make up more than 40 percent of the market.

The median home price rose 5 percent to $189,400. That's mostly because sales of more expensive homes rose, while sales of cheaper homes fell, the Realtors group said.


Compliments of the Bush Economic Meltdown.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Compliments of the Bush Economic Meltdown.  


That dog won't hunt no more...


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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That dog won't hunt no more...


That dog is stuffed and next to box's fire place.  


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compliments of the clinton era of "let's give everyone a mortgage because the only American dream is home ownership.
Even if they can't afford it we'll our Fed friends print more $$ and pretend it has value. In turn all the rating agencies will
find this cool. The folks can 'catch up' later in life. Oh, and don't forget to let them suck ALL the equity and MORE out of their
homes, even if they don't have a job we have to make it as easy as american pie for them."


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Interesting...
It's either Clinton's fault or Obama's fault... but not the dummy in between!
It happened on Worst's watch... but as always in Conservative governance...
"The Buck Stops 'THERE'!"


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Interesting...
It's either Clinton's fault or Obama's fault... but not the dummy in between!
It happened on Worst's watch... but as always in Conservative governance...
"The Buck Stops 'THERE'!"


OH NO!!! the guy in between is included....HE KEPT IT UP AND RODE THE SAME F'EN WAVE OF FALSE VALUE....

ignorance = votes

easy street = votes


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Box in 2005 the Reps in Congress wanted to put restrictions on both Freddie and Fannie and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd said all is well stay out of it and the Dems prevented them from being regulated. The Dems own that one.
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Box in 2005 the Reps in Congress wanted to put restrictions on both Freddie and Fannie and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd said all is well stay out of it and the Dems prevented them from being regulated. The Dems own that one.


And who "owns" the Iraq war?
And who owns the tax cut for the rich?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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And who "owns" the Iraq war?
And who owns the tax cut for the rich?


you and I do

because we like our American lifestyles....

who are the rich?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Bush owns the war in Iraq and in Afghanistan along with TARP. But it's also time that this administration take responsibility for the stimulus, the money lost in GM bailout, Solyndra and the rest of the failed green projects, Obamacare, Lack of jobs, the lack of growth in the economy and the growing debt.
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