~A tax cut for one group, with out a like spending cut, is a TAX INCREASE for everyone not in the group.~
A Tax Cut for the Rich... Is a Tax Increase for everyone else.
For the above quote, I would make sure that the "without a like spending cut" was included, but yes, you're right. The fact of the matter is, though, that if you cut taxes on the rich, then the rich have additioanl money to invest in their businesses, including the acquision of new employees to work for them, so the fact that you cut taxes on the rich is actually an incentive for the poor and the not-so-rich, as it will, in the end, increase the amount of labor force that is needed, reducing the unemployment rate... that is unless you have been employed by anyone that has ever made less than you...
Hey box, of all those people in the tax the millionaire video, how much of their money is in off shore accounts? I can't believe you are so easily propagandized. If I was a millionaire and had my money sheltered in accounts around the world, I would have no problem making a "tax the millionaire" PR video to help the political party that can subsidizes the industry I work in with government money.
It is nice to get liberal millionaires on board to call for a tax. It is so cushy-feeley. The the reality is that Box and other liberals want the whole nations brought down to New York State conditions, and the only way to effectively do that (and have an ensuing dictatorship) is to take as much capital (cash) OUT of the private sector and starve it the way the Ivy League political class has done it here in our state. We are drowning in debt, struggle to create jobs, cannot build wealth, and have the greatest disincentives to wealth building possible in the form of high property and income taxes. Job well done, liberals. Now go destroy the rest of America and then you can control it.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Hey box, of all those people in the tax the millionaire video, how much of their money is in off shore accounts? I can't believe you are so easily propagandized. If I was a millionaire and had my money sheltered in accounts around the world, I would have no problem making a "tax the millionaire" PR video to help the political party that can subsidizes the industry I work in with government money.
Cicero... YOU and your right wing buddies are the ones defending the greedy Millionaires, not me. If they are avoiding their fair share of taxes... you should talk to your friends the millionaires and the politicians they buy about fixing the problem. If I had my way, they would have never gotten the tax cut for the rich in the first place.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box, explain to me again how raising taxes on the "rich" increases our $43 billion trade deficit?
Taxing the "rich" does nothing more than divide the haves and have less. The fact that the American people want to tax success or "tax the rich" is a testament that people no longer believe in the American dream of working hard and being rewarded. America has now become a cast system of the wealthy and everybody else. The wealthy no long have to worry about competition from a bright and motivated person working their way up from the bottom, because they know their place in the system. Americans are now conditioned to be satisfied with the crumbs from the table of the rich and powerful via government, while the politicians and CEO's are wined and dined in the White House drink $1000 bottle of wine.
Cicero... YOU and your right wing buddies are the ones defending the greedy Millionaires, not me. If they are avoiding their fair share of taxes... you should talk to your friends the millionaires and the politicians they buy about fixing the problem. If I had my way, they would have never gotten the tax cut for the rich in the first place.
Who decides what is fair? To quote Animal Farm, some animals are more equal than others. Have you ever taken any deductions on either your state or federal taxes? If so, then there's many people in the country that would agree that you have personally taken those "tax cuts for the rich." In that case, YOU are the one you are complaining about that is not paying enough taxes.
Cicero... YOU and your right wing buddies are the ones defending the greedy Millionaires, not me. If they are avoiding their fair share of taxes... you should talk to your friends the millionaires and the politicians they buy about fixing the problem. If I had my way, they would have never gotten the tax cut for the rich in the first place.
Maybe if you cut the taxes, they bring their money back to America. Do you believe raising taxes and forcing millions off shore is a better policy?
For the above quote, I would make sure that the "without a like spending cut" was included, but yes, you're right. The fact of the matter is, though, that if you cut taxes on the rich, then the rich have additioanl money to invest in their businesses, including the acquision of new employees to work for them, so the fact that you cut taxes on the rich is actually an incentive for the poor and the not-so-rich, as it will, in the end, increase the amount of labor force that is needed, reducing the unemployment rate... that is unless you have been employed by anyone that has ever made less than you...
Kevin... The Like Spending Cut IS included. There was no "like spending cut" in the "Bush Tax Cut for the Rich" so you agree... the Rich got a tax cut, and the rest of us... The NON RICH will pay their share.
But follow your logic... instead of the Rich getting the tax cut, and the rest of us getting screwed... what would happen if that same money was given to the middle class as a tax cut??? Wouldn't the middle class create jobs??? Wouldn't we invest in our 401k's?... Stock? buy a new home, a new car or a new boat??? That kind of spending CREATES JOBS! (and doesn't end up in Swiss bank accounts as untaxed.
What was it that millionaire said about the economy???
"Rich People are not the Cause of a robust economy, they are the Result of a Robust Economy."
He should know. Had the Bush Tax Cut for the Rich gone to the middle class, that same money would be flowing through our economy today... creating jobs, and promoting our economy.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I personally want LESS government spending and MORE money left in the private sector, and to let the freedom of personal choice play out how the money is spent and invested. Dictators and power hungry statists want the government to have CONTROL over the money and everything else. I don't care which private individuals have how much, it simply isn't my business, nor is it my business where they spend what they have. I just don't care what Box or any othe r wealthy person does with his money, since I am concerned with minding my own business rather than forcing my ways on someone else. If Box has a billion bucks, he can do what he wants- feed the poor or buy an island in the pacific. I don't care, and I am not mad at anyone for having money. I AM mad at those who try to coerce me, control me, regulate me, harass me, bully me with government power and regulation, and waste my time and money by legislating everything I do and how I do it.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
But under Obama, only the rich got the new taxes, so everything should be going just swimmingly, and we should have been out of this recession by now. What happened?
If Box has a billion bucks, he can do what he wants- feed the poor or buy an island in the pacific. I don't care, and I am not mad at anyone for having money. I AM mad at those who try to coerce me, control me, regulate me, harass me, bully me with government power and regulation, and waste my time and money by legislating everything I do and how I do it.
If Grahan has a billion bucks, he can do what he wants- subsidies for Big Oil or buy an island in the Pacific.. I don't care, and I am not mad at anyone for having money. I AM mad at those who try to coerce me, control me, regulate me, harass me, bully me with government power and regulation, and waste my time and money by legislating everything I do and how I do it.
Graham & the Right Wing Nuts want's to regulate me to death... they tell me who I can marry... who can have an abortion... they block good gun legislation that gives terrorists and criminals access to guns... they build the largest military in the world, then find wars to use it on.
Keep this Right Wing Nut government out of my life.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
How's the gun control working in Chicago where only the crooks have guns? The Dems passed laws to control the housing market, Fannie and Freddie, and how did that work out for you? Now if you ever want to control our huge debt and both Reps and Dems both know this, you have to restructure Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and wasteful Federal spending. The Dems absolutely refuse to even talk about this because they fear the loss of votes from those using the benefits. What party passes more regulations that control our lives like health-care, energy, carbon tax, gun control, food we eat, and cars we drive.
If Grahan has a billion bucks, he can do what he wants- subsidies for Big Oil or buy an island in the Pacific.. I don't care, and I am not mad at anyone for having money. I AM mad at those who try to coerce me, control me, regulate me, harass me, bully me with government power and regulation, and waste my time and money by legislating everything I do and how I do it.
Graham & the Right Wing Nuts want's to regulate me to death... they tell me who I can marry... who can have an abortion... they block good gun legislation that gives terrorists and criminals access to guns..
Personally, I don't like being told what to eat, or get punished by what I eat, be told what I can pack in my kids lunch, be forced to finance deadbeats who won't work and ones didn't immigrate legally, be forced to buy health care, and be told that a crime against me means less than a crime committed against a minority group because the perpetrator "hated" them.
Box and the left wing socialist/communists want to regulate me to death
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
"Rich People are not the Cause of a robust economy, they are the Result of a Robust Economy."
That statement right there prove you or this millionaire doesn't understand basic economics. Robust economies are created when people produce goods or services and innovations that enhance the overall productivity of a society. Millionaires don't get rich by non productive people giving money to the "rich" productive people. You act as if the rich are just rich and don't add value to somebody elses life. Rich are rich because they created something that added value to somebody or many peoples lives and made a society more productive. Not the other way around.
Personally, I don't like being told what to eat, or get punished by what I eat, be told what I can pack in my kids lunch, be forced to finance deadbeats who won't work and ones didn't immigrate legally, be forced to buy health care, and be told that a crime against me means less than a crime committed against a minority group because the perpetrator "hated" them.
Box and the left wing socialist/communists want to regulate me to death
If you only read what's read on this Right Wing Board, you'd never see the 'other side' of Big Govt Regulations... only the Professional Victims of the Right. Poor us!
Some govt regulation is necessary...some is purely political and some is ridiculous... but it goes both ways. A fact that's often ignored on this board.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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