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Box A Rox
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Your are right, they were not rescinded by Obama, they were extended.
If Obama did nothing, they would have EXPIRED. This is on Barry, whether your DNC colored glasses want to see it or not.


So we agree.  The BUSH TAX CHANGES in the pie chart were NOT CHANGED BY OBAMA, so they are labeled correctly.

( I thought you'd never get it)  


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So we agree.  The BUSH TAX CHANGES in the pie chart were NOT CHANGED BY OBAMA, so they are labeled correctly.

( I thought you'd never get it)  


Then again, you could also state the fact that the Bush Tax Cuts ended, but the new Obama Tax Cuts, which mirror the Bush Tax Cuts are now in effect.  


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These may be the RECENT changes, but tell me why we're not figuring in the first try at national healtcare that was brought in by LBJ (aka Medicare / Medicaid), which by the way, was the first try at national healthcare, they just decided to do it for the elderly and the indigent, since they couldn't sell the full thing one shot even back in 1965.  And let's not forget about all the illegal Federal programs which are unconstitutional.


US Presidents who supported Universal Health Care:





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Less than 25% of our nations leaders ...
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So we agree.  The BUSH TAX CHANGES in the pie chart were NOT CHANGED EXTENDED BY OBAMA



There... that is more accurate...I'm not counting on you to get THAT  
Another example of what the President of "change" didn't change



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There... that is more accurate...I'm not counting on you to get THAT  


OK, we'll do it your way.

THE Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich which were then The Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich that were extended by Obama became the Bush Tax cuts for the Rich by Bush AND Obama...
... no matter who you blame...
The Tax Cuts for the Rich are the cause of 19% of our deficit.



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Less than 25% of our nations leaders ...

All  US Presidents since 1932 except 4, were in favor of Universal Health Care for Americans.

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Only ... Ford, Reagan, Daddy & Baby Bush were against it.



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OK, we'll do it your way.

THE Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich which were then The Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich that were extended by Obama became the Bush Tax cuts for the Rich by Bush AND Obama...
... no matter who you blame...
The Tax Cuts for the Rich are the cause of 19% of our deficit.


So do you disagree with "tax cuts for the rich" because you envy "the rich", or do you really believe, regardless of historical facts, that it will generate MORE revenue?


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Can we start by spelling deficit correctly? Geez-hilarious how you attempt to blame Obama's fiscal incompetence on Bush. Maybe if Obama didn't spend $5 trillion more then he took in we wouldn't be in this mess?

     Obama is a total incompetent on foreign policy, on fiscal policy, on job creation and energy policy. No President had ever been re-elected when unemployment is over 7%. Barack Obama will not break the streak. No matter how much Saudi money he pumps into his joke campaign.
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NOPE!  They belong to the one and only W.  You people should stop arguing with Boxy--he's right most of the time.
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NOPE!  They belong to the one and only W.  You people should stop arguing with Boxy--he's right most of the time.


The preceding post was brought to you by the DNC....."Where wealth transfer isn't just a hobby, its the reason we're here!"


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More Leader that support Universal Health Care.


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More Leader that support Universal Health Care.

Don't stop there Cicero... please continue!

32 of the 33 developed nations have universal health care, with the United States being the lone exception.

Countries that DO have universal health care (and the year started)  for their citizens:
Norway      1912      
New Zealand      1938      
Japan      1938      
Germany      1941      
Belgium      1945      
United Kingdom      1948      
Kuwait      1950      
Sweden      1955      
Bahrain      1957      
Brunei      1958      
Canada      1966      
Netherlands      1966      
Austria      1967      
United Arab Emirates      1971      
Finland      1972      
Slovenia      1972      
Denmark      1973      
Luxembourg      1973      
France      1974      
Australia      1975      
Ireland      1977      
Italy      1978      
Portugal      1979      
Cyprus      1980      
Greece      1983      
Spain      1986      
South Korea      1988      
Iceland      1990      
Hong Kong      1993      
Singapore      1993      
Switzerland      1994      
Israel      1995      
United States      2014* (Unless the Republicans screw us out of it by then)*





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US Presidents who supported Universal Health Care:





Majority of Americans Do Not Support Obama Care.

Health Care Law
51% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law, 42% Think Repeal Is Likely


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law


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Don't stop there Cicero... please continue!

32 of the 33 developed nations have universal health care, with the United States being the lone exception.

Countries that DO have universal health care (and the year started)  for their citizens:
Norway      1912      
New Zealand      1938      
Japan      1938      
Germany      1941      
Belgium      1945      
United Kingdom      1948      
Kuwait      1950      
Sweden      1955      
Bahrain      1957      
Brunei      1958      
Canada      1966      
Netherlands      1966      
Austria      1967      
United Arab Emirates      1971      
Finland      1972      
Slovenia      1972      
Denmark      1973      
Luxembourg      1973      
France      1974      
Australia      1975      
Ireland      1977      
Italy      1978      
Portugal      1979      
Cyprus      1980      
Greece      1983      
Spain      1986      
South Korea      1988      
Iceland      1990      
Hong Kong      1993      
Singapore      1993      
Switzerland      1994      
Israel      1995      
United States      2014* (Unless the Republicans screw us out of it by then)*





Under the topic, "There's no such thing as a free lunch", how about listing the TOTAL tax burden for citizens in those countries??

Based on a quick count, it seems most of these countries depend on US defense spending to keep them "developed"


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