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marymagdelene1234
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The democons are digging themselves yet a bigger hole!!!!


That is because they elected a couple of even bigger "holes"!
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You need to be replaced by a board up side the head.  Geeesh is there anything in this god forsaken world that you don't find fault with.  Get a life...you're redundant and whiney!!  


Just callz 'em as I seez 'em.........k?


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If you think "weighted voting" is unfair .. why would you think a County Board of Supervisors would be better ??

Princetown with a couple thousand residents would have 1 vote .. the same as Rotterdam with almost 29,000 people

If you sincerely were worried about fairness in the vote --- then you would be supporting ADDING additional legislators .. with each legislator coming from a single-member district --- and all districts having the same population ....

the best solution is to merge all the municipalities in the county into ONE  city-county ... and elect the legislative body  from single member districts --- that is the proposal that I preferred and, hopefully soon, will be implemented


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For once DVR makes a GREAT point!!!! Well done Ron!!!! Keep them coming!
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For once DVR makes a GREAT point!!!! Well done Ron!!!! Keep them coming!


An attempt at humor or sarcasm? People move to the suburbs to get out of the City, the City schools. The last thing anyone wants is town police being thrown into a big County force to patrol Hamilton Hill. If this is what HB and the town DEMS support they should say so now. Rotsa Ruck in November.
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So, then, where would you think would be a good place to draw the lines?  At the town / city lines?  And wouldn't that be about the same as the Board of Supervisors?  

Actually, first, I never said that the Board of Supervisors that someone else previously put out as a possibility wouldn't be a good idea.  I also didn't say whether each supervisor / mayor's vote would count the same, so you can't really say that I'm saying a weighted vote either is or ISN'T good.  

All I'm asking is that ALL who are represented by ANY representative at ANY level of government is for their vote to count as much as any other persons.  Also, if you're going to need more people on the County Legislature, who says it has to cost anymore. Take the total amount of the salaries that are given to people that are currently on the board and instead of dividing by the current number of legislators, divide by the NEW number of legislators, then you get more legislators, more voice for the people, with the same cost.  

All you need to do is find a way to fit them in that room overlooking the Metroplex Mile... or move them into any of the other vacant buildings all around the county, how about the Curry Road Shopping Center as a place for them to meet (Rotterdam Square only opened 8,600 days ago (23 years, 7 months and change), essentially meaning the end to the CRSC as a place of business).

And on top of all this, do the reprentatives that are in office get paid the same amount, or do they get paid the Legislator rate times the amount their vote is worth?  I mean, if their vote only counts as 9/10ths of a vote, maybe they should only get 9/10ths of the money.


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At least a board of supervisors would give residents representation. With the county leg, if you are not in the majority, you are shut out. Saw this first hand myself!!! Rotterdam, Princetown and Duanesburg representatives were TOTALLY shut out!!! I know, it's sad.........but true!


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The best solution is a united City-County ... with the legislative body elected from districts or wards (of equal population).

It is an idea that was first proposed almost 30 years ago -- I thought is was a great idea then -- and still do.

one chief executive, one legislative body, one school district  -- no more duplication and waste



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board of supervisors
with 100 votes up for grabs
percentage based on town/city population of last census

niski
schdy - mayor votes
scotia - mayor votes
glenville  -
rotterdam
princetown
duanesburg
delanson - mayor votes

supervisor sits for 4 years

or better yet screw the whole county level - nothing but an unnecessary layer of middle management


Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
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I agree.  Disband the County Legislature.  It's a a quarter of a million dollars or more (with benefits) that the county taxpayers can't afford and don't need.  The savings should be applied to lowering the county property taxes that are among the highest in both the state and the country.

The only ones benefitting from the existence of the County Legislature are the Legislators.  

What is required to eliminate this unnecessary layer of government?  Didn't Governor Cuomo campaign on
reducing the layers of government.  This would be a fine place to start!
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Quoted from TippyCanoe
board of supervisors
with 100 votes up for grabs
percentage based on town/city population of last census

nisky
schdy - mayor votes
scotia - mayor votes
glenville  -
rotterdam
princetown
duanesburg


This is a good starting point for a Board of Supervisors. Have to remember that the Hilltowns have NO current voice at the County table.  Only change have a City Council appointment take a seat. Then the City could have 2 votes in the interest of fairness. This actually came up at the last meeting. Legislatures are openly discussing returning to the Board of Supervisors. Savage/Decarbo fleeing is having an impact.
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They say when a ship sinks the rats are the first to leave.
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And, there should be no increase in salaries for the town supervisors awarded to them for attending
biweekly or monthly meetings.  
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Better still --  merge all the towns, villages and city into a single City-County .. with the legislative body elected from districts (equal population in all).

Going to a Board of Supervisors is  regressive -- of course .. that is what most of the Nattering Nayboobs want ..to go back to the way things were before the American Civil War ..

Schenectady County needs to lead the way towards the future with progressive ideas ..  a single regional government entity is the future .. and we should implement it  AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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Better still --  merge all the towns, villages and city into a single City-County .. with the legislative body elected from districts (equal population in all).

Going to a Board of Supervisors is  regressive -- of course .. that is what most of the Nattering Nayboobs want ..to go back to the way things were before the American Civil War ..

Schenectady County needs to lead the way towards the future with progressive ideas ..  a single regional government entity is the future .. and we should implement it  AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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