24 hours??? The report I heard on MSNBC this morning was the raid took place Sunday at 3:30pm EST and Obama's press conference was Sunday at 10:30pm EST. The compound was invaded, Bin Laden was killed, his identity was verified by DNA, and he was buried at sea all in 7 hours. And during the seven hours, the Obama Admin called every country on earth to see if they would provide a place of burial.
It doesn't add up, my guess is they had him in a meat locker frozen for years only to make this up when our foreign and domestic policies where at it's lowest point. If you watch the news channels what do you see them talking about. 1 they are saying we got the intel from sources due to our interrogation tactics. 2 we need to be more vigilant here and abroad. 3 they're using this to justify our military presence and spending around the world.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
It doesn't add up, my guess is they had him in a meat locker frozen for years only to make this up when our foreign and domestic policies where at it's lowest point. If you watch the news channels what do you see them talking about. 1 they are saying we got the intel from sources due to our interrogation tactics. 2 we need to be more vigilant here and abroad. 3 they're using this to justify our military presence and spending around the world.
Yes, that's because in this political game of 2 card monty, Republicans and Democrats alike, or the political class, rule like an empire...If there was an ounce of truth in Obama's campaign rhetoric, it is all but gone, and he is just another power lusting American ruler that is willing to shed the blood of foreign innocent civilians to appease the blood lust of the generals and give a sense of security to the American masses to ensure re-election.
America in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and a secret unilateral mission in Pakistan, but like Obama said in May of 2010, the "war on terror" is over. Gitmo is closing down, and we are bringing our troops home. With the fact of Obama's escalation of military action around the world, it is more proof of left winger obama bot hypocrites are completely phony, unprincipled, and morally bankrupt.
Guns and violence and military are bad - unless they have the guns, are committing the violence, and leading the military.
How do you say such contradictory things? If he is just a terrorist, why would you respect a Muslim religious tradition? Wouldn't that just reaffirm that terrorists are Muslims? I think by treating him like a homicidal maniac mass murderer and removing any religious aspect and lore would have separated him from being "A Muslim Terrorist". The fact that they respected his religion reminds the world that Muslims are the terrorists.
How do you say such contradictory things? I'm sure my opinion seems contradictory viewed through your politics.
You WANT to punish Muslims... I want to punish terrorists.
You want to show the world we disrespect Muslims... I want to show the world that the USA (just like in our constitution) respects all religions equally.
The USA could act just like the terrorists... hang Bin Laden's body from a hook at Ground Zero. Some Americans would cheer and shout USA USA! (and that act alone will recruit a few hundred more terrorists) Why be so stupid? Why play to the enemies strengths? Instead show the terrorists to be terrorists not as Muslims and you deprive the enemy of his primary recruiting tool.
Or... You could continue to seek revenge as you give aid to the enemy.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You WANT to punish Muslims... I want to punish terrorists.
You want to show the world we disrespect Muslims... I want to show the world that the USA (just like in our constitution) respects all religions equally.
The USA could act just like the terrorists... hang Bin Laden's body from a hook at Ground Zero. Some Americans would cheer and shout USA USA! (and that act alone will recruit a few hundred more terrorists) Why be so stupid?
I don't recall ever saying hanging Bin Laden's body from a hook at ground zero chanting USA...What I did say is, that Bin Laden, being one of the world’s most notorious mass murderers in the history of the world, rushing him into the sea because of some religious ceremony is ridiculous. Respecting the religious wishes of a murderer who killed people of all faiths and all nationalities including Muslim makes no sense. This guy has the blood of 3000+ Americans on his hands and we're concerned about his religious ceremony and not American process and due diligence? Not to mention, his burial at sea wasn't consistent with Muslim law, so they messed that up too.
.What I did say is, that Bin Laden, being one of the world’s most notorious mass murderers in the history of the world, rushing him into the sea because of some religious ceremony is ridiculous. Respecting the religious wishes of a murderer who killed people of all faiths and all nationalities including Muslim makes no sense. This guy has the blood of 3000+ Americans on his hands and we're concerned about his religious ceremony and not American process and due diligence? Not to mention, his burial at sea wasn't consistent with Muslim law, so they messed that up too.
Rushing him to sea??? They returned with Bin Laden's body. What RUSH? Leaving BinLaden behind would have been a huge mistake. Once positively identified, keeping his body serves no purpose. The USA, unlike many countries, shouldn't disrespect any religion... even the religion of our mass murderers.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Rushing him to sea??? They returned with Bin Laden's body. What RUSH?
Within 7 hours he was identified by DNA and then made shark bait. Based on the gravity of the situation and OBL being the worlds #1 most wanted for over 10 years, it seemed a bit rushed.
So now you're a big religious rights advocate? You're too funny...Does that apply to Christians?
Cicero is an argument looking for a place to happen.
I have always been a strong believer of the US Constitution and the first amendment. The USA should live by it's laws and favor no religion over another, while allowing all to practice their religion while protecting all Americans FROM a religion being forced upon them.
The Conservative war on Muslims is alive and well living on this message board.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Did DNA Finger bin Laden? His face is one of the most recognizable in the world, but in the end, could it have been DNA fingerprinting that proved to U.S. officials that they had finally nailed Osama bin Laden?
Maybe – but the Obama administration had better be saving some evidence.
U.S. officials have told various news sources that CIA facial-recognition technology was used to identify bin Laden, and that his wife – apparently also killed in the attack – called him by name during the firefight that ended his life.
But they say that DNA was the final piece of evidence.
The White House backed away Monday evening from key details in its narrative about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, including claims by senior U.S. officials that the Al Qaeda leader had a weapon and may have fired it during a gun battle with U.S. forces.
Officials also retreated from claims that one of bin Laden’s wives was killed in the raid and that bin Laden was using her as a human shield before she was shot by U.S. forces.
Ahhhhh...So his wife wasn't used as a human sheild and he didn't have a weapon...Hmmmm...Why did they leave all the people with possible valuable intel behind? Who else was in the Bin Laden compound?
Ahhhhh...So his wife wasn't used as a human sheild and he didn't have a weapon...Hmmmm...Why did they leave all the people with possible valuable intel behind? Who else was in the Bin Laden compound?
After so many years of George Worst Bush failures, Cicero doesn't recognize success!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
For Jews, we have just finished our celebration of Passover. If you read the book of Exodus, the people began to sing in celebration of the Pharaoh's demise. The Rabbis include in their commentary that even the angels began to sing but "G-d rebuked them saying "these also are the work of My hands. We must not rejoice in their deaths." Just because radicals acted barbaric, we shouldn't. Bring everyone home now.
After so many years of George Worst Bush failures, Cicero doesn't recognize success!
Our AAA rating downgraded by S&P, we're $14 Trillion in debt, America started a new war in Libya, unemployment is 9%, gas is over $4 per gallon, inflation creeping in, NOW this Administration can't get their Bin Laden kill story straight even though they watched live in the WH. In the liberal upside down world of Box, these things I mentioned are considered successes. But as we ALL know what Box's response will be...All the negative stuff is Bush's fault and Bin Laden kill was an Obama victory. The story is old and America is running out of patients.
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