I know that the pro-death folks are opposed to exposing any truths in regard to the foundations of planned parenthood. I understand that billboards such as Sanger's, pictures of aborted babies, blacks among the highest aborted, are offensive to the pro-death folks. With out these factual visuals, they can sleep better at night.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
There is a myth that Roe v Wade was the beginning of abortion in America. The truth is that wealthy women and powerful women, have always had safe abortion services. Since Roe v Wade, those services are available to all women.
It amazes me that there are Conservatives who still today would prefer women bleeding to death at a back alley coat hanger abortion, rather than a clean, safe, and legal facility.
If Conservatives were really interested in reducing the number of abortions, they would fund programs like Planned Parenthood that provide birth control, sex education, and family planning that help prevent unwanted pregnancy.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If Conservatives were really interested in reducing the number of abortions, they would fund programs like Planned Parenthood that provide birth control, sex education, and family planning that help prevent unwanted pregnancy.
Sex education should be done by the parents and in some cases the schools. To many try to make the claim that pregnancy is rocket science and in so needs billions of dollars of funding to teach people 1+1=2. Lets not try to make this harder than what it really is.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
It amazes me that there are Conservatives who still today would prefer women bleeding to death at a back alley coat hanger abortion, rather than a clean, safe, and legal facility.
Those are the ONLY two choices? More boxy hyperbolic fallaciousness.
I don't think the unborn baby can tell the difference between sterile instruments or a rusty coat hanger. The results are the same - dead baby.
Those are the ONLY two choices? More boxy hyperbolic fallaciousness.
I don't think the unborn baby can tell the difference between sterile instruments or a rusty coat hanger. The results are the same - dead baby.
A Perfect Example of how Cicero views abortion. The fetus will be aborted in both cases, but when abortion is preformed the way Cicero would prefer it, the mother dies or is left with a raging infection, or left sterile and unable to ever have a child.
Since abortions will be preformed in either case, Cicero prefers the the one that leaves the mother dead... amazing!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
A Perfect Example of how Cicero views abortion. The fetus will be aborted in both cases, but when abortion is preformed the way Cicero would prefer it, the mother dies or is left with a raging infection, or left sterile and unable to ever have a child.
Since abortions will be preformed in either case, Cicero prefers the the one that leaves the mother dead... amazing!
Yeah,,,that's how your warped mind would read that. "Perform abortions the way Cicero would prefer" - you're hilarious - where do you come up with this stuff?
You know box, there is such a thing as over the top hyperbole, where your arguments go from slightly persuasive to a laughable joke. You are there.
Yeah,,,that's how your warped mind would read that. "Perform abortions the way Cicero would prefer" - you're hilarious - where do you come up with this stuff?
You know box, there is such a thing as over the top hyperbole, where your arguments go from slightly persuasive to a laughable joke. You are there.
Cicero? Oh? Have I misstated your intent Cicero??? I thought you were a proponent of banning all abortion in the USA (with a very few medically necessary allowed). Did I make a mistake? Haven't you consistently been FOR banning abortion? Don't you favor reversing Row V Wade? As I understand your position, you would eliminate legal, safe and available abortion to all women.
If I'm in error, please correct me!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Go back to post 18. Reread you silly argument that conservative believe in 2 options - safe and clean abortion OR bloody coat hanger abortion. I was pointing out your fallaciousness and misrepresentation as if there are ONLY TWO OPTIONS to unplanned pregnancy. So yes, you are in error, and I was calling you our on your fallacious false choice argument. But I can see you are to stupid to comprehend.
Reversing Roe V Wade doesn't equal lines of women receiving back alley coat hanger abortions. Reversing Roe V Wade makes abortion a STATE issue, not a right guaranteed under the Constitution.
Reversing Roe V Wade doesn't equal lines of women receiving back alley coat hanger abortions. Reversing Roe V Wade makes abortion a STATE issue, not a right guaranteed under the Constitution.
Oh That's Different Cicero!!! I must apologize then. Your only opposition to safe and legal abortion in the USA is the jurisdiction that regulates it. If all abortion laws were State Laws and not Federal laws, you'd support safe and legal abortions.
Do I understand your position now? As I understand your position, you support clean safe abortion and would never want to force women to revert to 'back alley coat hanger abortions" again, as long as those safe and legal abortions were the jurisdiction of the State.
However if your oppose safe and legal abortion weather regulated by the Fed or the States, then you ARE promoting women given only TWO CHOICES... Those same Two Choices posted in #18...
"It amazes me that there are Conservatives who still today would prefer women bleeding to death at a back alley coat hanger abortion, rather than a clean, safe, and legal abortion.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You're to stupid for me to continue this dialog. Bye-Bye
Don't ya love the Gotcha Moment when you see the look in their eyes, as they recognize that it's their own words that has proved them wrong!
Cicero prefers back alley coat hanger abortions to safe legal services.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
abortion is as old as the universe.....the civilized part is in knowing you have a medically clean choice and that you actually know how a baby is made and by which parts of your body do this....as quoted by Henry 1+1=2, it's NOT rocket science....and it's NOT about bloodlines or the mystery of womens bodies or the seed men......more social responsibility adulthood needs to be pressed on 'kids' and without the bias of traditional woman's roles.... it's NOT rocket science but it has a HEFTY price with OR without abortion.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Just an afterthought: The right always runs on the social issues like abortion, but they never actually do anything about it when the time comes. The Republicans controlled the Presidency, Senate, and House from 2001 through 2007, yet they did nothing to outlaw abortion. Why is that? Because they would lose one of their dog whistles.
What the right fails to grasp is that abortion is as much an economic issue as it is a moral issue. There were fewer abortions under Clinton than there were under Bush because the economy was better under Clinton. A pregnant woman is more likely to keep her baby if she has a job or otherwise can afford to take care of a baby. When the Republicans cut funding for all kinds of social programs that would help young mothers, whether they are single or married, that increases the likelihood of an abortion. Of course, the right-wingers will always mention that the baby can be put up for adoption at the same time they deny adoption rights for gay couples.
Just an afterthought: The right always runs on the social issues like abortion, but they never actually do anything about it when the time comes. The Republicans controlled the Presidency, Senate, and House from 2001 through 2007, yet they did nothing to outlaw abortion. Why is that? Because they would lose one of their dog whistles.
What the right fails to grasp is that abortion is as much an economic issue as it is a moral issue. There were fewer abortions under Clinton than there were under Bush because the economy was better under Clinton. A pregnant woman is more likely to keep her baby if she has a job or otherwise can afford to take care of a baby. When the Republicans cut funding for all kinds of social programs that would help young mothers, whether they are single or married, that increases the likelihood of an abortion. Of course, the right-wingers will always mention that the baby can be put up for adoption at the same time they deny adoption rights for gay couples.
The pubs didn't pass a law abolishing abortion because the Supreme Court already decided that it violated womens rights. As even John Roberts has said, this is settled law. Lets be clear on Abortion and numbers that are performed.. it has very little to do with Economics. It has very much to do with laziness and irresponsibility on the part of BOTH mothers and fathers. Birth Control is out there.. for FREE. Economics is NO excuse. Abortion is treated, for the most part, as "after the fact" contraception
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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