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1-800-RENAISSANCE?
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1-800-RENAISSANCE?



Seriously......start making the calls!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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"Beep boop boop; We're sorry, the number you are trying to dial is either disconnected or out of service...no other information is available."
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Once while at the Nott Terrace Stewarts a couple years back a guy comes up to me and tells me his two young kids in the car and he needed money for gas to get to NYC because his Mom had died. Just happened a patrol car pulled in so I waved him over and told the guy that the police would help : )

Good idea about the coupons !  Also thinking making a list of helpful places like the city mission, salvation army, travelers aide etc and hand them out instead of money.

I don't mind helping people, I do donate to two charities, but when someone says they want food and I say I will buy something for them and they refuse then they don't want food.



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Sorry rp, but you should not be 'trying' to help out people on the street who are begging for food, or money for gas or money in general. There are more non-profits in the city than you can shake a stick at!! They are everywhere!! The city residents pay a crap load of money in taxes which in turn goes to these non-profits as a 'gift'....they don't pay their taxes....the residents do.

These non-profits are here to take care of the 'less than'...so to say! That is THEIR job. And this includes the churches. Ignore and walk away from the 'beggars' who will use every excuse in the book to get $$$$. It isn't your job.....it's the job of the non-profits. Don't enable the 'beggars'.

People already donate to charities so THEY can dole out the help. Being stopped on the street daily by beggars is rude and intrusive. Not to mention...NOT SAFE!!
IMHO of course!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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being homeless sucks...but in America, at least in Schenectady, it's not that bad. The 'rich' in America are just as scummy and repulsive ie:Hilton,
Kardashians, housewives of this/that, jersey shore etc....they may not beg for money, but they sure beg for attention and ooze out just plain NOTHING
WASTE OF SPACE........I cant get away from them anymore than I can get away from a beggar....as a matter of fact--I can leave a beggar in the dust
long before those dorks disappear out of my eyesight......

and dont give money, give meal tickets or food....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I stopped at McDs on Albany street this afternoon for coffee.  As I was leaving towards the back parking lot, the one on Albany Street, I noticed a man with crutches yelling at a TWC van parked to the side.  I slowed down to roll up my window but the man was upon my car in a flash.  Pretty fast for crutches on ice.  He then wanted $5 for something to eat.  I told him I just spent my last dollar on my coffee and he got all sorts of upset at me.
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VA estimates that 107,000 veterans are homeless on any given night. Over the course of a year, approximately twice that many experience homelessness.
Only eight percent of the general population can claim veteran status, but 20% of the homeless population are veterans.

Something to consider when you are approached by homeless beggars.  Sometimes the situation isn't what it appears to be.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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VA estimates that 107,000 veterans are homeless on any given night. Over the course of a year, approximately twice that many experience homelessness.
Only 8% of the general population are veterans, but 20% of the homeless are veterans.  Something to consider the next time you are approached by a homeless beggar.
Sometimes things aren't what they appears to be.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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OK ALL OF YOU YOUNG LADIES OUT THERE........If any male approaches your car, unlock your car doors and acknowledge him and give him whatever he wants. If he wants money, give it to him. If he needs a ride, get him in your car and take him wherever he wants to go. If he needs a place to sleep, invite him to your house, cause he just 'may' be a vet!!

Boxy.....You have got to be nuts! Really!! Trying to make a female guilty, in a city that is known for pan handlers, for not inviting an unknown male for support, is beyond irresponsible.

In schenectady, there is no need for anyone to be on the streets UNLESS it is THEIR choice. Between the Bethesda house, the city mission and the 'Y" (not to mention the emergency dss program).....the streets should be bare.

If you take issue with vets being homeless......take it up with your government. But don't put women's lives at risk with such nonsense.......k?


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Tom's not from Schenectady, he knows not of what he speaks.
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OK ALL OF YOU YOUNG LADIES OUT THERE........If any male approaches your car, unlock your car doors and acknowledge him and give him whatever he wants. If he wants money, give it to him. If he needs a ride, get him in your car and take him wherever he wants to go. If he needs a place to sleep, invite him to your house, cause he just 'may' be a vet!!

Boxy.....You have got to be nuts! Really!! Trying to make a female guilty, in a city that is known for pan handlers, for not inviting an unknown male for support, is beyond irresponsible.

In schenectady, there is no need for anyone to be on the streets UNLESS it is THEIR choice. Between the Bethesda house, the city mission and the 'Y" (not to mention the emergency dss program).....the streets should be bare.

If you take issue with vets being homeless......take it up with your government. But don't put women's lives at risk with such nonsense.......k?

Where to begin???
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"Trying to make a female guilty"???
I posted about homeless vets... It wasn't in response to any one post, and had nothing to do with any 'female', or 'guilt.
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" In schenectady, there is no need for anyone to be on the streets UNLESS it is THEIR choice."
If you believe that Bumble, then you understand very little about the homeless and especially homeless vets.
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When dealing with the homeless, you are more often than not dealing with mental illness, drug abuse, or a combination of the two, plus other problems.

Again, Sometimes things aren't what they appears to be.












The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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VA estimates that 107,000 veterans are homeless on any given night. Over the course of a year, approximately twice that many experience homelessness.
Only 8% of the general population are veterans, but 20% of the homeless are veterans.  Something to consider the next time you are approached by a homeless beggar.
Sometimes things aren't what they appears to be.


While that is true and sad it doesn't make any difference, Gemini wrote he asked for $5 and that is exactly what I have been talking about. These people are getting cocky because they feel entitled to our money for some reason, what's happening now isn't the old spare some change routine. I had a guy a couple months ago ask me if I had some money, he said "yeah man can you toss me like $20", I laughed in his face and told him to take a hike. But again what Gemini wrote is true, if you say no they get pissed. How long before their desperation turns into violent acts against us, desperate people do desperate things and when they feel entitled it only makes it that much worse.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I have no problem helping the homeless.  Read in past posts.  I have helped the homeless many times.  But I did say that he was upon me really fast with crutches on ice.  When I see something like that, that raises a lot of red flags.  Also another red flag was that he wasnt too pleasant about not getting money.  Especially when they ask for a specific dollar amount.  You cant be too trusting when you are a female alone.  It doesnt matter where you are.  Whether it be here or anywhere else in the world. My cousin trusted too much.  One of her co-workers "broke down" on the way home.  She stopped to help him.  That was the last thing she did because they found her dead the next morning.  I can send you all the news links to that one.  You dont know who you are dealing with out on the streets.  Doesnt matter if they are a vet or not.  There ARE places they can go to get help.  If they cant get it there then they will be directed to another place that will.  I spend a lot of time at the VA in Albany.  My father is a patient there a lot.  He has medical issues that need care often.  I see what happens there and who comes in and out of the doors.  They dont turn vets away.  If they need shelter, they show them where they can get it and they help them the best they can.  If that man in the parking lot was a vet, he doesnt need a meal at McDonalds, he needs a bus token to the VA hospital.  Especially if hes already on crutches.  

Im not denying your statement.  Im just looking after myself.  May sound selfish in a way, but I cant take chances when Im alone and cant defend myself.  
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Everyone should take reasonable precautions, to do otherwise would be foolish  Some of these people are nothing but lazy scam artists, and a few are dangerous.
  But many are also homeless doing the best they can under the circumstances.  
I only ask that they be treated with respect as best you can.


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