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It's the new way to fight crime in Schenectady, wait until the criminal has fled the premise, then take down the information and give it to the detective division to solve the crime.
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It's the new way to fight crime in Schenectady, wait until the criminal has fled the premise, then take down the information and give it to the detective division to solve the crime.


There is that saying "when seconds count cops are only minutes away". 99% of the time cops show up after the crime has been committed and as you said just to do paperwork. I know cops can't be everywhere but it makes me wonder why so many want us to rely on them for our safety. One thing I learned is to never rely on anyone for the safety of yourself or your family, those who do will find out what a big mistake that is.

Me and my family don't even bother calling the cops any more when something happens. We used to call them every time we heard gunshots or when something didn't seem right, it always turned out being useless and a waste of time. The increase of patrols and on duty police did nothing as seen with the increase of crime in the city. Seems the cops are more worried about collecting revenue for the city then to actually make it safer


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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As you said Henry when seconds count and the police are just minutes away Smith and Wesson are always there by your side.
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Smith and Wesson are occasionally the solution, but most of the time, Smith & Wesson are the problem.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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What would history say today IF Martin Luther King, Jessie Jackson and all in the black community were 'shut down' due to violence and their message in the 60's/70's?

There were deaths, shootings, looting, violence and massive marches. All to right what was wrong in this country. It was a violent time in American history. Obviously people died fighting for their cause. The country was divided....the government was divided and yet 'free speech' prevailed and the country emerged stronger.

The vietnam war protesters........again, deaths, shootings, looting, violence, Kent state, George Wallace shot, flag burning, massive marches and complete social unrest in a country divided again! And yet 'free speech' prevailed and the country emerged stronger.

As a side note.....In the book An Assassin's Diary, published after the shooter's (Arthur Bremer) arrest shows the assassination attempt was motivated by a desire for fame, not by politics, and that President Nixon had been an earlier target.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Interesting you chose those two events Bumble...
The Vietnam war and civil rights...
Conservatives were strongly on the wrong side of both of those events.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Interesting you chose those two events Bumble...
The Vietnam war and civil rights...
Conservatives were strongly on the wrong side of both of those events.


There ya go again boxy....not staying on topic and mixing apples and oranges. You have that gift of avoidance.

This wasn't political boxy.......it was a comparison of historical issues.....geezzzeee!



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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Interesting you chose those two events Bumble...
The Vietnam war and civil rights...
Conservatives were strongly on the wrong side of both of those events.


http://newsblaze.com/story/20080118113555nnnn.nb/topstory.html


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Robert Byrd - Civil Rights Champion!


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Robert Byrd - Civil Rights Champion!


I stand by my statement.  Conservatives were pro Vietnam war and anti civil rights, with few exceptions.

Grab a history book and look up the term DixiCrat.  The south was very Democrat and Very Conservative until the 60's.  The reason the south is now primarily Republican now is a result of Kennedy/Johnson civil rights laws.  Many Klansmen were Conservative Democrats, and switched parties when the Civil Rights acts were proposed.

"Southern Democrats" were members of the U.S. Democratic Party who reside in the American South. In the early 19th century, they were the definitive pro-slavery wing of the party, opposed to both the anti-slavery Republicans (GOP) and the more liberal Northern Democrats.

After World War II, during the civil rights movement, Democrats in the South initially still voted loyally with their party. The signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, however, was the last straw for many Southern Democrats, who began voting against Democratic incumbents for GOP candidates. The Republicans carried many Southern states for the first time since before the Great Depression.

When Richard Nixon courted voters with his Southern Strategy, many Democrats became Republicans and the South became fertile ground for the GOP, which conversely was becoming more conservative as the Democrats were becoming more liberal.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Smith and Wesson are occasionally the solution, but most of the time, Smith & Wesson are the problem.


it's greed, jealousy, envy, hate etc that are the problem...

"...a man looks in the mirror at himself turns away and immediately forgets himself..."

so that means EVERYONE is in this catagory....including your elected....even without guns there are Samantha Runions and others
so dont play the "it wasnt my fault I was hungry, envious, jealous, crazy etc." Because you know what,,,,,eventually Robin Hood dies and
there is no equalizer, never has been and never will be.....we all have what we have because we have what we have,,,,we choose
what we choose because we choose what we choose.....THAT IS FREEDOM...freedom to do right OR wrong....that is why we have the
justice system....

no pre-crime allowed....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I stand by my statement.  Conservatives were pro Vietnam war and anti civil rights, with few exceptions.


What class did you take in school - American History according to Oliver Stone?

American involvement in Vietnam began under Kennedy escalated during LBJ and was ended by Nixon.

Civil Rights Act 1964
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Vote totalsTotals are in "Yea-Nay" format:

The original House version: 290-130   (69%–31%).
Cloture in the Senate: 71-29   (71%–29%).
The Senate version: 73-27   (73%–27%).
The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289-126   (70%–30%).
[edit] By partyThe original House version:[12]

Democratic Party: 152-96   (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34   (80%-20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[13]

Democratic Party: 44-23   (66%–34%)
Republican Party: 27-6   (82%–18%)
The Senate version:[12]

Democratic Party: 46-21   (69%–31%)
Republican Party: 27-6   (82%–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[12]

Democratic Party: 153-91   (63%–37%)
Republican Party: 136-35   (80%–20%)



I don't know box, unless Wiki got the numbers wrong, the Dems voted AGAINST the civil rights act at a higher percentage.  A larger number of Republicans supported the civil rights act.


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What class did you take in school - American History according to Oliver Stone?

American involvement in Vietnam began under Kennedy escalated during LBJ and was ended by Nixon.

Civil Rights Act 1964



I don't know box, unless Wiki got the numbers wrong, the Dems voted AGAINST the civil rights act at a higher percentage.  A larger number of Republicans supported the civil rights act.


OK Cicero,
Take a deep breath, go back and read my original post...
The word "R E P U B L I C A N " isn't in it.  But the word C O N S E R V A T I V E is.



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OK Cicero,
Take a deep breath, go back and read my original post...
The word "R E P U B L I C A N " isn't in it.  But the word C O N S E R V A T I V E is.



Not sure how you go about identifying C O N S E R V A T I V E S in the 1960's.  Were conservative more aligned with the Democrat Party in the 60's?  That's what you are implying right?

So I guess Kennedy and LBJ were war mongering conservatives for getting America involved in Vietnam?  You're not denying that fact are you?  Was the Republican Party a more liberal party in the 1960 than the Democrat Party?  Seeing how it is a FACT, a larger percentage of the Republican caucus than Democrat caucus in the House and Senate voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act, would you consider the Republican Party the party of the civil rights movement?  

If 80% of Republicans voted "yea" and only 63% of Democrats voted "yea" for the Civil Rights Act, why would the "pro slavery" southern Democrats vote Republican when the voting record for the Democrats would have more suited their ideology?


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Cicero,
Not to be repetitive, please go back and read posts #245, #249 & #252.

I don't know your age Cicero,  but for much of my life, "Southern Democrats" were very Conservative.  You seem to equate Conservative with Republican but that hasn't always been true.

On the Vietnam war vote to authorize Johnson's escalation of the war(The Gulf Of Tonkin Amendment) only two US Senators voted against going to war... Senator Ernest Gruening, D-Alaska, and Senator Wayne Morse, D-Ore.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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