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CICERO
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They hate rich, successful people... ones that aren't DNC contributors.
Now, they are all in a tizzy over the estate tax, that it is ONLY at 35%.
Tell me how an estate tax is NOT double taxation?


How dare a person work hard their whole life and accumulate wealth and not want to give half of their estate to the government to fund some welfare program.  Past generations used to work hard to provide better opportunity for their children.  The new left philosophy is work hard, die, and split the money with your kids and the government.


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  The new left philosophy is work hard, die, and split the money with your kids and the government.


More like "anyone not a Democrat hard work hard, die, and split the money with your kids, welfare recipients, and the unemployed."


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Would the Black Panthers be considered a "similar group".  


Of course!  

I would feel just as comfortable with Oathkeepers in my TeaParty as I would the Black Panthers.  Both are violent extremists, who both have a civil face that they show to the public.
It seems the TeaBaggers are attracted to extremism and militias... Hate & Guns... not a good mix in any neighborhood.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Of course!  

I would feel just as comfortable with Oathkeepers in my TeaParty as I would the Black Panthers.  Both are violent extremists, who both have a civil face that they show to the public.
It seems the TeaBaggers are attracted to extremism and militias... Hate & Guns... not a good mix in any neighborhood.



I ask AGAIN, what crimes have been committed by the Oathkeepers?


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They hate rich, successful people... ones that aren't DNC contributors.
Now, they are all in a tizzy over the estate tax, that it is ONLY at 35%.
Tell me how an estate tax is NOT double taxation?
Anthony Weiner a representative from NY was asked this question this afternoon and wouldn't answer the question and did the usual political 2 step and danced all around the question.
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I ask AGAIN, what crimes have been committed by the Oathkeepers?


The OathKeepers who have committed known crimes have been prosecuted... just like the Black Panthers who have committed crimes.  Both groups have of paramilitary anti government segment.

Do you want groups like the Black Panthers or the Oath Keepers involved in local politics in your area? Both are Legal... Both are Extremists... both are on a watch list by the FBI for illegal activity.

It's not illegal for the black panthers or the Oathkeepers to be involved in local TeaPartys... It's just a dumb idea.






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The OathKeepers who have committed known crimes have been prosecuted... just like the Black Panthers who have committed crimes.  Both groups have of paramilitary anti government segment.



That's just like saying that Muslims have committed crimes in the name of their religion, but yet I don't see you condemning Islam like you so easily condemn the Oathkeepers...except you don't provide any proof.
Hmmm, I wonder why.. actually I don't...


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Boxy..........why is it YOU that always brings race into a discussion? Believe and follow and listen to who ever or whatever you want. Who gives a crap? In all due respect.....you are a waste of internet space!


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That's just like saying that Muslims have committed crimes in the name of their religion, but yet I don't see you condemning Islam like you so easily condemn the Oathkeepers...except you don't provide any proof.
Hmmm, I wonder why.. actually I don't...


Tbird welcomes the Black Panthers to his Local TeaParty!  After all, just like the OathKeepers, they are legal and unless he has PROOF they commit a crime, he welcomes all extremists groups even if the FBI has listed them both as potentially dangerous.  








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I have always enjoyed a good tea party ...  the best one that I ever attended was at the Broadmoor Hotel
in Colorado Springs, CO ... of course, my hope is to someday attend a tea party in London UK.


I can seriously picture you doing that. I can picture you in a fancy pink frilly apron sitting at a tiny table with your stuffed animals gathered all around. I can picture you pouring the pretend tea from a tiny delicately embossed porcelain tea pot into tiny delicately embossed porcelain tea cups and stirring them with the silver painted plastic spoons. I can picture you serving sponges and bringing the little cakes up to your mouth and even making the chewing motions.

I can picture your arrival at these fancy tea parties, with you flicking away some imaginary wisp of hair from your brow. Come to think of it, Stratton does the same thing. Have you had chance to have tea time with Bri?
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Tbird welcomes the Black Panthers to his Local TeaParty!  After all, just like the OathKeepers, they are legal and unless he has PROOF they commit a crime, he welcomes all extremists groups even if the FBI has listed them both as potentially dangerous.  








Ah Boxy... You were called on your claim of criminal activity involving the Oathkeepers and YOU COULDN'T BACK IT UP. You should call MSNBC and see if you can get a spot on Keith Olbermans show or maybe Hardball.
Nice attempt to divert your LYING about the oathkeepers by bringing in the Black Panthers..if I recall, you started this thread and can't even stay on subject.
No worries, your Mom will be calling you for dinner soon


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Ah Boxy... You were called on your claim of criminal activity involving the Oathkeepers and YOU COULDN'T BACK IT UP.
Nice attempt to divert your LYING about the oathkeepers by bringing in the Black Panthers..if I recall, you started this thread and can't even stay on subject.

Tbird.
Please pay attention, and try to keep up.

1. I never accused the Oathkeepers of crimes... that was another posters diversion.  So I had NOTHING TO BACK UP! DuHHH
2. What LIE about the Oathkeepers?
3. I didn't bring up the Black Panthers... Cicero did.  My posts about the Black Panthers was in response to his post. See#12.

Pay attention Tbird, or you'll just embarrass yourself again!






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Tbird welcomes the Black Panthers to his Local TeaParty!  After all, just like the OathKeepers, they are legal and unless he has PROOF they commit a crime, he welcomes all extremists groups even if the FBI has listed them both as potentially dangerous.  


Would you welcome The Weather Underground into the Democrat party???  Oops,,,I forgot, The Weather Undergound founder Bil Ayers(Obama's neighbor) endorsed Obama.  As a matter of fact, Ayers help launch Obama's political career from his home.

Did the OathKeepers ever bomb a NYC police station?  Did any Oathkeeper's kill their girlfriend while building a bomb in their home?  The Oathkeepers have a long way to go to reach the types of radicals our president hangs with.





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Thanks Cicero.

The Weathermen are a good example.  If they were asked to speak at my local TeaParty meetings I would be very concerned.  That group, along with the Oath Keepers, Black Panthers, and others are on the FBI watch list.  
I'd be concerned if any of them were here locally recruiting members at a local TeaBaggers meeting.

Why would any TeaBagger invite the John Birchers, or any of these groups to speak at a meeting?  


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Box,

I'm glad to see you are concerned about radicals and the relationship with political parties(even though the Tea Party isn't a political party) and Obama's relationship with the WeatherUndergound.  I'm glad to see your concern about your presidential candidate having a personal and political relationship with the founder of such a dangerous radical group.  Unfortunately it is two years too late, the radical Obama has been elected.  

I would say letting the John Birchers speak at a local tea party meeting would be FAR LESS dangerous than any association with the WeatherUnderground, don't you agree?

Why would you vote for a president that has a personal relationship and shares the views with such a radical like Bill Ayers?


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