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The great Emam appears to have his facts wrong. AMERICA has more muslim blood on their hands than the muslims themselves? WTF?

We know full well which conflicts were brought about by Muslim imperialism..................... Sudan, Zaire, Nigeria, Somalia, Rwanda, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya, Lebanon, Algeria, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, and so on. The world needs to know the true number of non-Muslims killed by Muslims to put into perspective that the Arab-Israeli conflict is nothing more than another example of Muslim imperialism that has been going on all over the world since 1948.

What were the Shiites, the Kurds and the Sunni's doing? Having a love fest?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/24/AR2010082403049.html


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100809/wl_asia_afp/indonesiaattacksarrestbashir



More acts of "peace" from the followers of peace and the best friends the American democrap party ever embraced.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Grahan thinks that the word "Peace" is a nasty word that shouldn't be used in mixed company.
He has no problem with the word "War" and promotes endless US involvement in wars through  out the globe.

The Right promotes FEAR...it doesn't matter who it is... communism, Atheists, Chinese,   Muslims, Mexicans, Russians... as long as it can be ramped into a frenzy of fear and hate against an imagined enemy.

With out a continuous perceived enemy, the Conservative movement cannot function.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Islamist rebels attack Somali hotel, killing 32


By MOHAMED OLAD HASSAN and MALKHADIR M. MUHUMED, Associated Press Writers Mohamed Olad Hassan And Malkhadir M. Muhumed, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 25 mins ago

MOGADISHU, Somalia – Islamist militants wearing Somali military uniforms stormed a hotel favored by lawmakers in the war-battered capital Tuesday, firing indiscriminately and killing 32 people, including six parliamentarians

A suicide bomber and one of the gunmen was also killed in the brazen attack just a half-mile (1 kilometer) from the presidential palace. The attack showed the insurgent group al-Shabab, which controls wide areas of Somalia, can penetrate even the few blocks of the capital under the control of the government and African Union troops.

Tuesday's well-planned assault came one day after al-Shabab warned of a new "massive war." Sheik Ali Mohamud Rage, an insurgent spokesman, said the attack by members of the group's "special forces" targeted government leaders, foreign agents and "apostates" at the $10-a-night Muna Hotel.

Survivors of the hour-long slaughter described seeing bodies strewn throughout the hotel and people scrambling to safety through windows. An 11-year-old shoeshine boy and a woman selling tea were among the dead.

In an interview with The Associated Press, one parliamentarian said she was jolted awake by the popping sound of gunfire. Saynab Qayad said three fellow lawmakers staying on the top floor of the three-story hotel drew their guns while other guests fled out windows.

"Smoke filled my room after bullets smashed my window. I hid myself in a corner of the room. Then a guest next door came to my door, screaming 'Come out! Come out!' And when I came out bullets continued to fly around.

"I went back to my room and locked my door. Shortly afterward, the hotel staff asked me to come down and put me in a room at the second floor with four other survivors," she said. "The body of a member of parliament was lying at that small room's door."

After it was over, Somali government forces tied the body of one of the dead assailants to the back of a pickup truck and dragged it through the dusty streets of the capital, a scene eerily reminiscent of how bodies of dead American soldiers were treated following the disastrous Black Hawk Down battle of 1993 in Mogadishu.

Tuesday's attack only extended the stream of warfare that rattled Mogadishu on Monday, when 40 civilians died in fighting between al-Shabab and Somali and African Union troops.

Somalia's deputy prime minister told AP that 19 civilians, six members of parliament, five security forces and two hotel workers were killed Tuesday — a total of 32. Two attackers also were killed, said Abdirahman Haji Aden Ibi, the deputy prime minister. A government statement said 31 people were killed. There was no way to immediately reconcile the figures.

Al-Shabab, which has links to al-Qaida and boasts veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars among its ranks, has grown deadlier in recent months. Last month it claimed twin bombings in Uganda during the World Cup final that killed 76 people.

"The only intention of this group is to destroy the nation, massacre people and then finally hand the country to ruthless foreigners," Somali President Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed said. "So I call upon all Somali people to unite fighting against these enemies and help government forces."

The militant group is fighting to oust the 6,000 African Union troops from Uganda and Burundi that prop up the U.N.-backed Somali government — forces whom al-Shabab calls crusaders and invaders.

"We will eliminate them from our country in a battle we call 'the end of the aggressors,'" Rage said. "They wanted to enjoy themselves in hotels while women and children are sent to makeshift homes."

Al-Shabab calls itself a defender of the nation, but its interpretation of Islam is harsh. Al-Shabab forbids music, TV or letting women walk alone. Men must grow beards. Punishments can range from amputation to death by stoning.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/af_.....bGsDc3VpY2lkZWJvbWJl
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The Right promotes FEAR...it doesn't matter who it is... communism, Atheists, Chinese,   Muslims, Mexicans, Russians... as long as it can be ramped into a frenzy of fear and hate against an imagined enemy.



And the left doesn't?
Religious right, corporate america, labor union opponents, abortion opponents, "hate" criminals","racists", "homophobes"...



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You got it!  The Right has to have a Common Enemy... a big picture issue that transcends all others to focus hate and fear.

The left, as most Americans do, will focus their attention on ISSUES... jobs, pro choice, religious rights... but not one big enemy, as does the Conservative Hate Fest of Muslims.  

Both sides should be focusing on solving the problems of this country... Health care, ending the wars, Jobs...

At the moment the Right is focusing on: Muslims, Is Obama a US citizen, Is Obama a Muslim, who paid for Michelle Obama's vacation in Spain, Should a mosque be built in NYC, and of course for any productive issue... THE right says NO!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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At the moment the Right is focusing on: Muslims, Is Obama a US citizen, Is Obama a Muslim, who paid for Michelle Obama's vacation in Spain, Should a mosque be built in NYC, and of course for any productive issue... THE right says NO!



You wish that's what the right was focusing on.  That's what left wing propaganda would want you to believe.  The fact is, the right and center right and even now moderate democrats are focusing on Obama's apparent tone deafness to the people.  Obama is more concerned about ramming through his ideological agenda rather than governing ALL the people.  His hyper expansion of the Federal Government is the biggest concern for those on the right.

The left would like to think this is a personal attack against Barack Obama, so they can paint those who oppose his big government policies as "racist" or "bigots".  The fact is, people are scared shitless about his unprecedented expansion of federal powers in 18 short months.


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'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'
-Ronald Reagan
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You got it!  The Right has to have a Common Enemy... a big picture issue that transcends all others to focus hate and fear.

The left, as most Americans do, will focus their attention on ISSUES... jobs, pro choice, religious rights... but not one big enemy, as does the Conservative Hate Fest of Muslims.  

Both sides should be focusing on solving the problems of this country... Health care, ending the wars, Jobs...

At the moment the Right is focusing on: Muslims, Is Obama a US citizen, Is Obama a Muslim, who paid for Michelle Obama's vacation in Spain, Should a mosque be built in NYC, and of course for any productive issue... THE right says NO!


I didn't know Harry Reid was on the right? he supports moving the Mosque...
It also exposes you as a hypocrite when you paint the right with a broad brush on the Obama and Mosque questions, but break out the detail brush for the  Mosque organizers..

BTW, The right will have its attention on something else after election day, like picking a new speaker of the house after the Democratic bloodbath. And something tells me not all the votes for republicans will come from republicans.,, Because unlike you, some Obama voters have figured out that they were fooled by an empty suit that can't stop spending money we don't have.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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I'm hoping that there are a lot of conservative Democrats who are sick and tired of this administration spending us into a third world country.
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Like every  election day , I wait for the results before I count the votes.  Historically, most first term off year elections, the incumbent party loses some seats.  I would expect this election to be about the same.

Many of my Conservative colleagues seem to start counting votes and predicting doom, the day after they lose an election.  This board seems no different.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Like every  election day , I wait for the results before I count the votes.  Historically, most first term off year elections, the incumbent party loses some seats.  I would expect this election to be about the same.

Many of my Conservative colleagues seem to start counting votes and predicting doom, the day after they lose an election.  This board seems no different.

When the Republicans took over the house in '94, the economy was good.
If you are a follower of history, I think you know what to expect.
With housing in the tank, unemployment at 9+%, and soldiers still dying in two wars, the death of the republican party, as claimed by the press after the '08 elections, has been greatly exaggerated.
The dems losing the House is almost a given, losing the senate is a longer shot, but even it doesn't happen, it will narrow the majority enough to effectively neuter Obama for 2 years.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Counting your chickens... I've been hearing that for a year and a half.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Fear on the left constitutes anything that they may have pull up their own bootstraps or teach others to pull up their own also.......

I believe
abortion-legal

dont believe
unions promote bootstrap pull up
hate crimes should exist

and I dont give a rats a$$ who you have sex with

but dont tell me I dont love everyone because I dont want to be MADE to give MY hard earned money to others to dole out as they see fit.......corporate
or private

GET OFF MY BACK.....DONT TREAD ON ME.......

TEA PARTY POLITICAL MILITIA


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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