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http://www.agmkt.state.ny.us/AI/Doglic.htmlhttp://www.agmkt.state.ny.us/AI/municipal_doglic_toolkit.htmlnow we know how the dog park will be funded !!!!!!! just a public hearing and a resolution away rotterdam will take the dog lic fees the state is discontinuing and build a dog park with them collect from many benefit a few
This post is a lie. There is absolutely NO plan to use dog licensing fees to fund a dog park. The state is getting out of the dog licensing business but is still requiring every dog in the state to be licensed. Each municpality will then be responsible for maintaining all dog license records, sending out renewal notices, ordering the "dog tags", maintaining a dog control officer, and sending a portion of the fees to the "spay/neuter" program. The dog park is a completely separate issue that is being considered by the Parks and Recreation Commission .. and has absolutely NOTHING to do with dog license fees. period - end of story. |
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not a lie
an opinion - connecting the dots
the timing could not have been better |
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not a lie an opinion - connecting the dots the timing could not have been better
Currently - the price of a dog license varies whether the owner is a senior citizen or not; whether the animal is neutered - about 55% of the total fees (all dog owners) stays in the town, 40% goes to the state, and 5% goes to the spay/neuter program. The state currently mails out renewal notices and maintains the computer database of all licensed dogs - those two costs will be shifted down to the town starting January 1, 2011. My calculation based on the research I have been doing is that it will cost the town about $12 per licensed dog (based on the current number of licensed dogs in the town) to maintain the dog licensing/control program in the town. So basically - those $$ we would have been sending to the state will just barely cover the full cost of the program (of which the town will be fully responsible). Bottomline - there will be no surplus income from dog license fees to spend on a dog park Now - as far as the dog park -- IF the Parks Commission sends a recommendation to the Town Board to go forward with installing a dog park -- we would do so only if we could find donor/donors willing to donate the start up costs AND would probably require a permit to use the dog park - the moneys from the permits would offset maintenance costs. |
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Cool -maybe Lumpy K's got a relative that needs a job! |
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Cool -maybe Lumpy K's got a relative that needs a job!
the dog park will not require any additional staffing from the Public Works Dept or any other town department |
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the dog park will not require any additional staffing from the Public Works Dept or any other town department
Oh? And how do you propose enforcement of the "stickers/permits" ? Who cleans up? Who patrols, opens up in the morning, shuts down at night? |
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Who's going to repair the vandalism that's done to the facilities. |
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There already is staffing .... No additional staffing would be necessary.
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Oh? And how do you propose enforcement of the "stickers/permits" ? Who cleans up? Who patrols, opens up in the morning, shuts down at night?
The same way they enforce the racetrack on Westside. |
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There already is staffing .... No additional staffing would be necessary.
I guess you are volunteering to clean up the dog shi+! Good for you Ron, I would rather have you do that rather than be in the town clerks office anyway! You are much more qualified for the dog park. |
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I guess you are volunteering to clean up the dog shi+! Good for you Ron, I would rather have you do that rather than be in the town clerks office anyway! You are much more qualified for the dog park.
Just like Lumpy |
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This is what politicians/government does.....they will just find other ways to spend the taxpayer's money. That's why they never never go down!!
Since the initial post claiming that dog license fees were going to be used for the dog park is a bald faced lie --- it is ridiculous for you folks to keep insisting it is going to happen. |
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Existing DPW staff would open and close the gates -- although it may very well be that those dog owners who paid the permit fee to use the facility may get a special key for the padlock. The dog park would have a separate entrance from the rest of the park in which it may be located. Dog owners who use the facility would be required to pick up "deposits" and a receptacle would be available to place those "deposits". |
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Existing DPW staff would open and close the gates -- although it may very well be that those dog owners who paid the permit fee to use the facility may get a special key for the padlock. The dog park would have a separate entrance from the rest of the park in which it may be located. Dog owners who use the facility would be required to pick up "deposits" and a receptacle would be available to place those "deposits".
And who would pick up the slack when someone doesn't pick up their dog's "deposits?" And what happens when one of those who have paid the fee uses their key to unlock the special gate, then they absent-mindedly leave it unlocked and something happens? If there's hours, then those hours need to go for all, not just those who didn't pay the special fee. Or are some animal owners "more equal than others," to take a quote from Animal Farm? |
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