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Box A Rox
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    ... worse than Nagasaki.

    Dramatic increases in infant mortality, cancer and leukemia in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, which was bombarded by US Marines in 2004, exceed those reported by survivors of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.

    “To produce an effect like this, some very major mutagenic exposure must have occurred in 2004 when the attacks happened.”

    The International Journal of Environmental Studies and Public Health findings was a “a 38-fold increase in leukemia, a ten-fold increase in female breast cancer and significant increases in lymphoma and brain tumors in adults. At Hiroshima survivors showed a 17-fold increase in leukemia.”

(Fallujah, Iraq 2005–2009 )
http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/7/7/2828/pdf


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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You really do hate America.


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Yes...Iraq was a virtual paradise before the lousy Americans showed up.


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The Chemical Solution
Then Saddam made a fateful decision for the Kurdish people. His cousin, Ali Hassan Al Majid - now known as 'Chemical Ali' - was appointed the governor of Northern Iraq and carried out the plan.

“Tell him I will strike. I will strike with chemicals and kill them all. What is the international community going to say? The hell with them and the hell with any other country in the world that objects.” translated from an audio tape of Ali obtained by the U.S.


Thousands of innocent people died on the streets of Halabja.
Again and again helicopters flew over Kurdish settlements throughout northern Iraq releasing clouds of lethal gases and leaving bodies piled in the streets.

Then on March 16, 1988 the Iraqis flew over the Kurdish town of Halabja. Within a hour, over 5,000 innocent men, women and children died on the streets.

Many tried to hide in basements, unaware that they would provide no protection against a chemical attack. Tens of thousands of others fled into nearby mountain caves where the deadly fumes took their lives days later.

But this time, television cameras were there to document the tragedy. Images of bodies piled in the streets of Halabja were broadcast around the world.

It's estimated that as many as 30,000 Kurds lost their lives to Saddam's chemical weapons.


http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/kurds/attack.html


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UN experts confirmed in 1986 that Iraq had contravened the Geneva Convention by using chemical weapons against Iran.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/02/iraq_events/html/chemical_warfare.stm


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For more than 20 years, senior Iraqi officials have committed genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. This list includes far more than the gassing of 5,000 in Halabja and other villages in 1988. It includes serial war crimes during the Iran-Iraq war; the genocidal Anfal campaign against the Iraqi Kurds in 1987-88; the invasion of Kuwait and the killing of more than 1,000 Kuwaiti civilians; the violent suppression, which I witnessed, of the 1991 Kurdish uprising that led to 30,000 or more civilian deaths; the draining of the Southern Marshes during the 1990s, which ethnically cleansed thousands of Shias; and the summary executions of thousands of political opponents.

Many Iraqis wonder why the world applauded the military intervention that eventually rescued the Cambodians from Pol Pot and the Ugandans from Idi Amin when these took place without UN help. They ask why the world has ignored the crimes against them?


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/thunderer/article1120757.ece


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There is no doubt that Saddam had Chemical weapons and used them.  No doubt... Reagan/Rumsfeld supplied him with chemical weapons (that were used on the Iranians and eventually on the Kurds)
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There were no chemical weapons as confirmed by weapons inspectors before the Bush invasion.


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Fallujah a Saddam WMD History


If you happened to miss the growing propaganda story concerning babies with deformities being born in Fallujah, Iraq, I would imagine if one waits around for a bit, the screaming meemees are going to have a "blame America" day on this one, because there are already hundreds of postings of the same source code of "dioxin and radiation littered all over Iraq", by the leftists who have this thing about depleted uranium, so of course that is what is producing 3 headed babies in Fallujah.

As the BBC put this story out, with a careful withdrawal of linking this to American war munitions, something about this story stinks.

An Iraqi doctor without evidence stated she is seeing 3 deformed children born a day. That would be almost 1000 children in Fallujah who are deformed. The evidence I witnessed were deformed children, but not in those numbers, and the rub comes in this from factual data.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are very good way marks for radiation poisoning, as are the overt Nevada test range clouds which fell on unsuspecting Americans, along with the high content of bombing in both Gulf Wars, where this type of radiation would be concentrated.
Radiation poisoning of children in the womb, produces miscarriage in the early weeks and then produces mental retardation and stunted growth, to literally in the last trimesters no more harmful effects than on the mother.
Note in that, there is not mutation prevalent in the known subject areas.

Most people have no comprehension that they are hit with deadly gamma radiation many times a day from the sun. If you have ever sat listening to a Geiger Counter, you will every minute hear a click, which is gama rays from the sun. People and infants for all of human history have not been bothered by these daily penetrating doses, so the question then is as radiation while lethal it has not been known to produce the effects on infants like in Fallujah.
My experience even in Chernobyl with the Soviet meltdown was not deformities, but instead horrid tumors in children, which is what radiation does is cause accelerated growth in cells. Tumors though are not genetic mutants.

Dioxin is another chemical listed in these mass postings. Dioxin is quite deadly and it was used in Agent Orange in Vietnam for deforestation. The US military does not seem to be utilizing dioxin, so this type of poisoning does seem to not be the source either in Fallujah.

What I look for is the Battle of Fallujah took place in December of 2004. That would 5 to 6 years in which there was not a spike in birth defects until what appears in the cases stemming from 2009.
If one examines Fallujah, the debris was strewn into the river which the people do indeed drink water from it was stated. Yet American Marines who were sucking in the battle dust and bathed with it have not exhibited side effects, and as stated the area did not spike in birth defects immediately connected to the battle as the leftists are now trying to blame America.

As there has to be cause, which is not current, does not appear battle related, one has to examine historical possibilities and in that one finds Fallujah was part of the Sunni triangle and an enterprise zone of Saddam Hussein.
The Dictator industrialized Fallujah with numerous factories and one factory was shut down by UNSCOM as it was thought to have produced chemical weapons.
Now that is something which is far more interesting an concrete than blaming depleted uranium whose effects do not cause these types of mutations or dioxin which America was not using in mass quantities, but is part of the oil industry.

No one in the puppy press or the leftist screamer propagandists is going to make this link, but we know Saddam Hussein was busy sinking in the ocean, burying in the sand and putting his biological stockpiles out of Iraq.
Recently a WMD rocket was dug up which had been buried in an Iraqi city which shocked the locals upon discovery.

This is a logical conclusion then that perhaps somewhere in industrialized Fallujah under the soil, perhaps ruptured in time, perhaps during reconstruction, perhaps in the river in dumping debris or having ruptured in time, there is a Saddam Hussein chemical weapon cache leeching into the water supply.
Some chemicals in the parts per million are extremely toxic and would account for deformed babies which are being blamed on Americans againg by too willing of an Obamaling public.

Of course, it is easy to blame the Americans, but the alternative is Saddam Hussein turning over in his grave and all those Obamalings not wanting to face the fact that Fallujah might just be a ruptured chemical weapons of mass destruction cask proving that the intelligence has been right all along from tons of refined uranium flown out, missiles, aging chemical weapon shells uncovered, but all dismissed by the "hate Bush crowd", and now Fallujah simmering as a death zone no one is considering except to blame the United States, but the first hint this is a WMD stockpile ruptured, the story will disappear and the net scrubbed.

What is most troubling in this, is if this is Saddam WMD, this means his containers were buried near water supply and drainage. It means teh containers have approximately a 10 year earth life, and that expired several years ago.
Iraq very well can have dozens of these sites rupturing over then next decade contaminating ground water and river water, and no one will notice until the deformed children start appearing.

This is unique as animals appear not to be affected, which is even more interesting, because that could point to a deliberate Baathist al Qaeada poisoning of a human only supply of food or water to produce these effects which will grab leftist heart strings in the west for another blame America round in the press.

Until more evidence which is credible arises, this does not appear to be an American event, but something Iraqi generated by Saddam or by his latent followers. The radiation effects do not match deformed children and dioxin was not utilized in mass in Iraq, so the source must come from something which appeared in Fallujah in the 2009 period.

Logic dictates a chemical weapon's cache which ruptured, as one doubts that even Baathists are patient or bright enough to poison pregnant women in mass and wait for the outcome. That is too many variables for a propaganda operation.

So in that, as this blog is not American hating, it views all scenarios and the logical one is this is Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons of mass destruction caches sprung a leak.
Not what Barack Hussein Obama and the Obamalings would care to consider, but that is why this blog is here to cut through the propaganda with the most likely answers.

See we do not blame America first or are so self important here that we think everything has to be American connected. There are real bad and evil folks in the world, some of whom Barack Hussein Obama has bowed to.
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Awww how bad I feel for them and the Japanese. I am crying a river of tears.


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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
Awww how bad I feel for them and the Japanese. I am crying a river of tears.


You can probably  say " Remember the bomb "----- in Japanese-


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