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June 18, 2010, 6:49pm Report to Moderator
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The U.S. mission in Afghanistan centers around swaying locals to its side. And there’s no better persuasion tool than an invisible pain ray that makes people feel like they’re on fire.

OK, OK. Maybe that isn’t precisely the logic being employed those segments of the American military who would like to deploy the Active Denial System to Afghanistan. I’m sure they’re telling themselves that the generally non-lethal microwave weapon is a better, safer crowd control alternative than an M-16. But those ray-gun advocates better think long and hard about the Taliban’s propaganda bonanza when news leaks of the Americans zapping Afghans until they feel roasted alive.

Because, apparently, the Active Denial System is “in Afghanistan for testing.”

An Air Force military officer and a civilian employee at the Air Force Research Laboratory are just two of the people telling our pal Sharon Weinberger that the vehicle-mounted “block 2″ version of the pain ray is in the warzone, but hasn’t been used in combat.

Update: “We are currently not testing the Active Denial System in Afghanistan,” Kelley Hughes, spokesperson for the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate, tells Danger Room.

So I ask her: Has it been tested previously? She hems and haws. “I’m not gonna get into operational,” Hughes answers.

Hughes also disputes the assertion that Active Denial creates a burning feeling. “It’s an intolerable heating sensation,” she says. “Like opening up an oven door.” [end of update]

For years, the military insisted that the Active Denial System — known as the “Holy Grail” of crowd control — was oh so close to battlefield deployment. But a host of technical issues hampered the ray gun: everything from overheating to poor performance in the rain. Safety concerns lingered; a test subject had to be airlifted to a burn center after being zapped by the weapon. (He eventually made a full recovery.) And then there were concerns about “the atmospherics” — how the locals might react — when they learned that the United States had turned a people-roaster on em. “Not politically tenable,” the Defense Science Board concluded.

I pinged Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s staff about the use of Active Denial in Afghanistan. I’ll let you know if I hear anything back. But a few months ago, a source told me that a representative from the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate was in Afghanistan. Did that mean Active Denial was about to be put into action? Nope, the source said. “She’s just out getting some atmospherics on use of non-lethals.”


Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/u-s-testing-pain-ray-in-afghanistan#ixzz0rFuO7GpF
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June 18, 2010, 6:51pm Report to Moderator
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Drowning sensation ... sensation of being on fire - what's the difference I guess, right?

I thought Obama / Pelosi and the rest of the democraps thought waterboarding was such a bad idea - where's the outrage now?
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June 18, 2010, 6:54pm Report to Moderator
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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama said Wednesday night that waterboarding authorized by former President George W. Bush was torture and that the information it gained from terror suspects could have been obtained by other means.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/obama-asserts-waterboardi_n_193270.html



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Obama reaffirmed that “waterboarding violates our ideals and our values. I do believe that it is torture. . . . “I believe that waterboarding was torture. And I think that … whatever legal rationales were used, it was a mistake.”


http://jonathanturley.org/2009.....-and-bad-techniques/



Wait, how is GITMO coming along these days? Closed yet?
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GiantsFan56
June 20, 2010, 4:25am Report to Moderator
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Learn something new every day.  I had not heard of the Active Denial System.  We do use Long Rang Acoustic Devices (LRADs)though.  They are very effective in deterring those with unknown intent.    
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What do your censors think of this conversation?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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June 25, 2010, 9:43pm Report to Moderator
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It appears the update is that there is no story here?  The story is something is happening but the update is that the story is all incorrect?

And if it was, this seems more in the line of rubber bullets then water boarding.  You are stretching your assumptions.
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June 25, 2010, 9:54pm Report to Moderator
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I think this will help us win the war:

"Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says"

Published June 25, 2010
FOXNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/25/petraeus-modify-afghanistan-rules-engagement-source-says/
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