Newsmax Anti-Ground Zero Mosque TV Ad Planned Friday, August 13, 2010 09:29 PM
New York's Conservative Party is planning a television ad campaign to pressure a New York City utility to use its power to block a proposed mosque near ground zero that the ad says is planned by an "un-American" Muslim leader.
The ad states "patriotic Americans" want "real answers" about the cultural center proposed for lower Manhattan in a building partly owned by Consolidated Edison. Plans call for the Muslim center to include a mosque in the building about two blocks from the Sept. 11, 2001, attack.
The ad asks viewers to contact the utility, which has more than 3 million customers, at a phone number provided on screen and is the first effort to try to get customers to target the company.
The Conservative Party's statewide ad to begin running next week says Republican candidate for governor Rick Lazio, the Conservative nominee, is asking the right questions about the effort and who or what groups will fund it.
The utility has said it is legally bound to accept the plans to sell the building under an agreement with its tenant.
"My hope is Con Ed would be civic minded and not participate in the sale," New York Conservative Party Chairman Michael Long told The Associated Press. "Our little twist is creating a grass-roots effort to put pressure on Con Ed."..................>>>>.............................>>>>................http://www.newsmax.com/InsideC.....mp;promo_code=A81D-X
I was talking to some union guys from NYC and they said that there is NO WAY that mosque will be built. They must know more than the rest of the country.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Ground Zero Mosque On The Move? Opponents To Meet With Developers On Troubling Issue
August 17, 2010 7:44 PM
NEW YORK (CBS 2) – There was a possible resolution in the works Tuesday night in the debate surrounding the proposed mosque and Islamic cultural center near ground zero.
CBS 2′s Marcia Kramer has learned it looks as if the developers of the mosque may be willing to budge and move away from the Park 51 location where they originally planned the construction.
So will the mosque be moving?
New York Gov. David Paterson plans to meet with developers of the controversial ground zero mosque as early as this week to offer them state land – at another location – for their cultural and religious center. Paterson told Congressman Peter King about the meeting, and King said the governor asked him to make it public.
“The purpose of the meeting would be for the governor to discuss with the leaders of the mosque where state property is available,” said Rep. King. “Whether or not people from the mosque would be willing to consider that property.”
King added that the governor “seemed very enthused” about the anticipated discussions.
For at least a week, the governor’s message to the developers has been one of hopeful understanding.
“I hope that they type of cultural understanding that they’re trying to promote when they build the center could be practiced right now,” Paterson said.
Sources tell CBS 2’s Kramer that Gov. Paterson is concerned that Mayor Mike Bloomberg, a staunch supporter of putting the mosque at ground zero, and President Barack Obama, might be advising mosque leaders to dig in their heels and insist on the present location.
But there was a glimmer of hope that they are open to a compromise.
A Tuesday tweet from the Park51 Twitter account said:
“For the past week, we have focused on trying to respond to attacks and detractors of our project. What’s become clear is – they won’t listen.”
In the next 140 character post, they added:
“Starting today, we’re going to begin addressing questions regarding park51. We’re open to any sensible discussion.”
Paterson’s office confirmed that discussions between his staff and the developer’s staff have been ongoing and said the governor expects to have a meeting scheduled in the near future.
Congressman King said the openness of the developers to a compromise will be the real test of their intentions.
“If the leaders of the mosque take up the governor on his proposal, it would show that their real intention is to bring people together,” he said. “And not just make a political statement by having a mosque at Ground Zero.”
There’s also the issue of separation of church and state, and whether the governor should provide state land for a mosque.
King said in this case it would be okay, especially if the compromise meets the need of both sides.
As for the debate over the mosque in its current proposed location, religious leaders said Monday they are worried this one building is leading to a nationwide backlash.
It is the question Muslim leaders and those of other faiths are asking.
“How far is too close? If two blocks near the Burlington factory is too close then why in Brooklyn is the mosque being opposed in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn? Is that far enough?” said Mahdi Bray, the executive director of Muslim American Society Freedom.
Officials said the ground zero mosque controversy is just one of many attempts to prevent mosques from being built all over the country, and that it may have emboldened other protestors.
Protests have been held on Staten Island, and California, and Tennessee, Wisconsin, Alabama and Florida.
“The building of mosques and the resistance to buildings of mosques has increased throughout America as well as the destruction and vandalizing of mosque in Florida with a pipe bomb,” Bray said.
Leaders of other faiths joined the Muslins American Society Freedom on Tuesday.
“I know how I would feel if people started saying there were certain places you weren’t allowed to put up a synagogue and therefore I know what should not be done to people who want to put up a cultural center that will include a prayer space,” said Rabbi Aurthus Waskow, the director of the Shalom Center in Philadelphia.
But on Tuesday at ground zero many said they were opposed to putting the mosque so close to where the 9/11 attacks took place; not to mosque construction in other parts of the city.
“It’s the location, yeah, this is holy ground. A lot of people died here,” said Steven Van Cook of Queens.
“My objection is to ground zero. This is a holy place. It should remain as a holy place,” added Steven Goldberg of Bayside.
What about building it in another place in Manhattan?
“No, I wouldn’t mind because you know it’s freedom of speech in the country, but I object to it being here,” Goldberg said.
When asked is he is opposed to the location or the building mosques in New York City, Vito Serzelczyk of Marlton, N.J., said, “Location, location, location. This is a very sensitive area. I was here on Sept. 11. It was a terrible, tragic event and I feel sorry for the families of those people, victims, and this is not really the place to build the new mosque.”
You may have talked to "union" guys--but I have spoken to Arthur Waskow.(Rabbi) You guys are so up on things you would know this name and that I brought him hear two years ago to speak at the College of St. Rose at a Stop the Hate Prayer Vigil. Arthur wrote me to come to NYC a couple of days ago for a demonstration that he lead. You people react from your gut and not from your head. We all know that you are racists and bigotted. NO need to continue with this conversation. I, too, agree with Akbar Ahmed that it shouldn't be built there because it will target innocent Muslims. He is one of the leading authorities on Islam.
You may have talked to "union" guys--but I have spoken to Arthur Waskow.(Rabbi) You guys are so up on things you would know this name and that I brought him hear two years ago to speak at the College of St. Rose at a Stop the Hate Prayer Vigil. Arthur wrote me to come to NYC a couple of days ago for a demonstration that he lead. You people react from your gut and not from your head. We all know that you are racists and bigotted. NO need to continue with this conversation. I, too, agree with Akbar Ahmed that it shouldn't be built there because it will target innocent Muslims. He is one of the leading authorities on Islam.
I agree.....racism and bigotry are an affect of ignorance.....I know muslims will kill folks,,,,I know that christians will kill folks.... I know that buddhists will kill folks.....I know that jews will kill folks etc etc......but having a mosque/church/synogue will not make it any more prevalent than our own animal/non-logic feelings......
either way, and it really doesn't matter what religion I am or you are......I would still kill you if I felt threatened.....and the only difference is that I am human and I have the ability to wait and weigh out my fears.....if we did not, there would be no DaVinci/Kitty Hawk Neil Armstrong or even Jesus/Muhammed etc..........
and I know some folks who continue to insist "it's a slap in the face of the victims and we are sooooo hurt" certainly think their pain is greater than the folks who's relatives die on a twisting winding road or from cancer.....does that mean no cars allowed on that road or everyone get screen for 'dirty DNA' to detect CA........... YOU ARE NOT MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, called for an investigation of those who are protesting the building of the Ground Zero Mosque on Tuesday. She told San Francisco's KCBS radio:
"There is no question there is a concerted effort to make this a political issue by some. And I join those who have called for looking into how is this opposition to the mosque being funded," she said. "How is this being ginned up that here we are talking about Treasure Island, something we've been working on for decades, something of great interest to our community as we go forward to an election about the future of our country and two of the first three questions are about a zoning issue in New York City." (h/t Kristinn)
Calls to investigate the funding for those proposing the $100 million "Cordoba House" have fallen on deaf ears, though, as New York's Mayor Mike Bloomberg has described such an investigation as "un-American."
Ms. Pelosi called the Ground Zero mosque an "urban development decision" for New Yorkers to work through. Her remarks happened on the heels of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, parting ways with President Barack Obama on the issue. Mr. Reid suggested the mosque should be built somewhere else.
You may have talked to "union" guys--but I have spoken to Arthur Waskow.(Rabbi) You guys are so up on things you would know this name and that I brought him hear two years ago to speak at the College of St. Rose at a Stop the Hate Prayer Vigil. Arthur wrote me to come to NYC a couple of days ago for a demonstration that he lead. You people react from your gut and not from your head. We all know that you are racists and bigotted. NO need to continue with this conversation. I, too, agree with Akbar Ahmed that it shouldn't be built there because it will target innocent Muslims. He is one of the leading authorities on Islam.
Yes boomsy, we talk to the 'people'....the 'real people'....not the ones that blow smoke up your a$$! Get with the program.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
The Constitution only guarantees that there is a right to build but it sure doesn't guarantee that you can build it where ever you want.
You wouldn't allow a strip club next to a High School, although strip clubs have the right to exist. More of a question of what is appropriate for the neighborhood. I agree with Shadow, and am surprised at the insensitivity that this group would push to get a mosque established there. I would think they would be smart enough to realize that it might be "inappropriate" although legal.
Moderate Muslims are reaching out in an attempt to heal wounds and educate the curious and the bigots... I don't think there is anything 'inappropriate' with their mission or their location.
This issue is mostly about the November elections, and not the location of the mosque.
Radical Muslims, radical Jews, Radical Christians...etc. are a threat to all of us.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
This mosque will NEVER be built on this site.....IMHO!!! And yes it has become political. Politicians make EVERYTHING political. Reid is proof of that!
In reality, those who have openly opposed the site will garner votes as opposed to those who support it.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
The developers of an Islamic cultural center that would include a mosque near Ground Zero have rejected Gov. David Paterson's offer to help them find a different site.
Paterson said last week the group is apparently committed to building in the proposed site. "I think they would like to stay where they are, and I certainly respect that and I certainly respect them," Paterson said.
On Tuesday, Rep. Peter King said he learned the governor planned to speak with the imam and develops of the mosque later this week, but lead developer Sharif El-Gamal told NY1 no meeting had been scheduled.
The planned $100 million center would be built two blocks from the World Trade Center site, where nearly 2,800 people died when Islamic extremists flew jets into the twin towers. The project is headed by Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, a Muslim cleric who has worked to improve relations between Islam and the West.
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