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bumblethru
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FrankenSTEIN, FinkleSTEIN just like the SS stormtroopers you think government agents should and could be. The One thing I fault the greatest generation for is not killing enough of those sonsofbitches when they had the chance. Now we have a government trying to BE the next Reich with their heavy government hand, and democraps like you want that to come true.


Don't blame them. Look in our own back yard. Look at our left over hippie home growns. Remember the 'anti-establishment' generation? The same generation of home growns are the same ones imposing more laws and regulations than were in existence when they were enjoying sex, drugs and rock n roll. The same left over hippie extremists that were born and raised in the great USA!

Are illegals an issue! you betcha! But that is just one factor in why this country is going down the toilet. Most of it is from our own home grown left over hippie generation. Remember.....they are the ones running the country....and that includes both dems and reps!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
FrankenSTEIN, FinkleSTEIN just like the SS stormtroopers you think government agents should and could be. The One thing I fault the greatest generation for is not killing enough of those sonsofbitches when they had the chance. Now we have a government trying to BE the next Reich with their heavy government hand, and democraps like you want that to come true.


GB - I think you are lost -you can friends with a similar view over  here-  http://www.kkk.com/  



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yeah, all of you democraps formed it, and you would know about separating people by race.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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yeah, all of you democraps formed it, and you would know about separating people by race.


Wait...so AZ trampling on the 4th amendment okay...

but Obama trying to pass immigration reform is bad?

Just trying to understand your insanity.  Even Bumble makes more sense then you... (no offense Bumble, you are more moderate then you know)
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ARIZONA - Got it right

Enforce the laws and get these people out of our country!

FBI Takes 2 Into Custody While Executing Times Square Car Bomb Search Warrants

Associated Press

The FBI says agents have executed search warrants at several locations in the Northeast in connection the failed Times Square car bombing.


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BOSTON -- The FBI says agents have executed search warrants at several locations in the Northeast in connection with the failed Times Square car bombing.

An FBI spokeswoman says the searches were the product of evidence gathered in the investigation and that there is "no known immediate threat to the public or any active plot against the United States."

FBI spokeswoman Gail Marcinkiewicz would not confirm any addresses, but Boston area media reports say one of the raids was in Watertown, a Boston suburb.

She says two people have been taken into custody on alleged immigration violations in connection with the raids.
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  Even Mexico doesn't want the illegals back in their country.
Catherine Bremer and Adriana Barrera
MEXICO CITY
Fri May 14, 2010 12:46am EDT
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican President Felipe Calderon will protest to U.S. President Barack Obama in Washington next week about Arizona's crackdown on illegal immigrants, Calderon told Reuters on Thursday.

Mexico

Calderon said a law that will come into force in Arizona in July, requiring police to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect is in the United States illegally, was already affecting relations between the two neighbors.

"It contains elements that are frankly discriminatory, terribly backward," Calderon told Reuters in an interview.

He said he would bring Mexico's protest over the law to a meeting with Obama and in front of the U.S. Congress during an official visit to Washington next week.

"The fact the law has introduced, regardless of all the nuances being used, the possibility of detaining, arresting somebody on the grounds of their physical appearance implies one of the most serious reversals that I remember," he said.

The move by Arizona, which borders Mexico, has sparked outraged protests, pushed some U.S. states to seek economic boycotts of Arizona and pushed the immigration debate in the United States into the political foreground.

There are an estimated 10.8 million illegal immigrants, mostly from Latin America, in the United States.

Mexico, which sends 80 percent of its exports to the United States and has millions of citizens working there legally or illegally, has condemned the legislation, issued a warning for Mexicans living or traveling there, and asked its consulates in Arizona to offer Mexicans legal protection.

Asked if the law could affect bilateral relations, Calderon said: "It is affecting it, sadly, it is affecting it."

Obama has denounced the law as misguided, and the storm over it has boosted a drive by the president and Senate Democrats to overhaul federal immigration laws, something Mexico has been pushing for years, to better immigrant rights.

"It's a very sensitive issue on both sides of the border but I know President Obama's will (to do something) and we are both doing, and will do, more to avoid this really affecting relations," Calderon said.
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Like I said.....drug cartels are bringing in terrorists for mega bucks. That is where the money is. Smuggling drugs is taking a slight back seat to smuggling muslim terrorists.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Media misrepresenting Arizona’s new law

    Re May 9 article, “Ariz. bill has local scorn”: Reporter Sara Foss states, “Groups in the Capital Region are organizing in opposition to the new law, which requires police to question anyone they suspect is in the U.S. illegally.” That is a patently false statement.
    It is not a requirement, nor is it allowed. After stopping a person they suspect of a reasonable suspicion of violation of a law, most commonly a traffic stop, they then have the obligation to ask for proper identifi cation. That’s quite a difference. This law simply mirrors an existing federal law. Almost every major publication states the same falsehood.
    Over 100,000 Mexicans enter this country legally every year. This is more, by almost 50 percent, than any other country and is truly welcomed. A cry of racism is simply not true.
    I truly wish the media would stop using the term immigrant when referring to illegal immigrants. It insults all legal immigrants, both past and present, of which my grandparents were a part.
    While we in the Northeast sit here safe and comfy, a whole state is being inundated with over 1,000 illegals a day. We don’t have as commonplace: home invasion, people going into our garages and sleeping; stealing and killing our animals. We don’t have an inordinate number of murders, rapes and other major crimes as do they whose borders are breached by illegals. We don’t have our school budgets being broken, our hospitals overflowing and our citizens picking up the bill.
If the federal government would do its constitutional duty and protect our borders, instead of bailing out auto companies and setting salaries for CEOs, which is not its constitutional duty, this would not be a problem for Arizona or any other state.
Illegal immigration is a growing problem in America; let’s face it and treat it as a criminal problem and stop pretending it is not!

ARTHUR C. SALVATORE
Saratoga Springs

http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r03604&AppName=1
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Immigrant crossings into Arizona on the rise

By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ (AP) – 14 hours ago

NOGALES, Mexico — The migrants walk for days through miles of mesquite scrub, running low on food and sometimes water, paying armed drug thug "guides" and dodging U.S. law enforcement officers along the way. And still they keep coming.

The latest figures show that Arizona, which is about to put into effect the nation's toughest immigration law, also is the only border state where illegal crossings are on the rise.

While tightened security and daunting fences in Texas and California have made Arizona a busy crossing corridor for years, migrant smugglers now are finding new ways through the state's treacherous deserts.

Carmen Gonzalez, 27, recalled seven days and six nights of walking with her husband in the desert and being accosted by Mexican thugs with AK-47s, who demanded $100 bribes. They were later arrested at a safe house in Arizona.

"It was so hard and so ugly," Gonzalez said at a shelter in this Mexican border town, where she, her husband and her brother were staying after being deported. "I won't try again because we went through too much suffering in the desert."

New U.S. Border Patrol statistics show arrests on the Arizona border were up 6 percent — by about 10,000 — from October to April, even as apprehension of illegals dropped 9 percent overall. The agency uses arrests to gauge the flow of migrants; there are no precise figures on the number of illegal crossings.

Statistics from the Mexican side also show a rise in illegal crossings through Arizona.

Grupo Beta, a Mexican government-sponsored group that aids migrants, helped 5,279 people from January to April in the area across the border from Douglas, Ariz., compared to 3,767 in the same period last year, said agent Carlos Oasaya.

That's the same area where Arizona rancher Robert Krentz was fatally shot in March as he surveyed his property in an all-terrain vehicle. Authorities suspect an illegal immigrant who was headed back to Mexico and worked as a scout for drug smugglers.

The killing helped fuel the emotion around the Arizona law, which will empower police to question and arrest anyone they suspect is in the country illegally. It takes effect in July.

Immigration is likely to be at the top of the agenda Wednesday when Mexican President Felipe Calderon visits Washington and attends a state dinner at the White House. Calderon has condemned Arizona's law; President Barack Obama has called it "misguided" and promised to begin tackling an immigration overhaul.

Supporters of the Arizona law said Tuesday that the growth in arrests at the border didn't spur its passing.

Instead, it was a series of factors, including the discovery of a growing numbers of immigrant safe houses and a rise in crime by illegal immigrants who have injured and killed police officers, said state Rep. John Kavanagh.

In the 1990s, increased enforcement and corrugated metal and chain-link fences dramatically cut illegal border crossings in California and Texas.

Overall, illegal immigration through those two states, New Mexico and Arizona has declined from nearly 1.2 million in 2005 to 541,000 last year, according to the Border Patrol. In Arizona, illegal crossings fell from 578,000 in 2005 to nearly 250,000 last year — before the recent rise.

Immigration experts have long predicted the decline in crossings would reverse as the U.S. economy recovers.

"The fact is that as long as there remains an economic disparity between the U.S. and Mexico and other Latin American countries, enforcement and sanctions and any other measure won't stop the flow of migrants," said Charles Pope, interim director of the Trans-Border Institute at the University of San Diego.

Despite the recent spike in illegal crossings into Arizona, entering the state illegally is getting tougher.

U.S. Border Patrol drones scan for drug and migrant smugglers in the desert. Twelve-foot steel walls now separate the crossings through Nogales, south of Tucson, and Agua Prieta across from Douglas.

The desert around the hamlet of Sasabe, a smuggling way-station of a few dozen houses, is a drug trafficking corridor used by the Sinaloa cartel. Migrants and Mexican officials say heavily armed drug traffickers have been demanding fees since at least 2007 to allow migrants to pass.

Gonzalo Altamirano, a 19-year-old mechanic from the southern Mexican state of Oaxaca, jumped over a fence into Arizona from Agua Prieta. He surrendered to authorities after waiting two days for a van that never arrived.

It was Altamirano's second time crossing illegally into the United States — he lived and worked in Oklahoma for nine months in 2007 before getting so homesick he returned to Mexico. He intends to try again.

"I'm poor and will always look for a way to cross," he said. "Even if they add more security or whatever."
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Like I said.....drug cartels are bringing in terrorists for mega bucks. That is where the money is. Smuggling drugs is taking a slight back seat to smuggling muslim terrorists.


Proof that  some people from Schenectady/Rotterdam really dont know Jack-  


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An Arizona utility commissioner said he's willing to pull the plug on Los Angeles if the city goes through with a boycott of his state.

In a letter to the city of LA, a member of Arizona's power commission said he would ask Arizona utility companies to cut off the power supply to Los Angeles. LA gets about 25 percent of its power from Arizona.

"That is one commissioner who has that idea -- whether he can do that or not is another idea," said LA Councilman Dennis Zine. "They are the ones who have to make the move, not us."

The commissioner's power grid play is in response to the city's approval of a resolution directing city staff to consider which contracts with Arizona can be terminated.


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Power-Play-Over-Immigration-Law-94251079.html
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AZ is just putting the heat where it should have belonged all this time......to the feds.........


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Immigration Law Breathes Life Into Brewer's Re-Election Campaign

Only nine months ago, politically speaking, Jan Brewer had flatlined; the Arizona governor's approval rating was at 22 percent. And as recently as three months ago, a Rasmussen poll of likely voters showed her trailing her likely opponent, state Attorney General Terry Goddard, by nearly 10 points in the runup to November's gubernatorial election.

Only nine months ago, politically speaking, Jan Brewer had flatlined; the Arizona governor's approval rating was at 22 percent. And as recently as three months ago, a Rasmussen poll of likely voters showed her trailing her likely opponent, state Attorney General Terry Goddard, by nearly 10 points in the runup to November's gubernatorial election.

But voters in the Grand Canyon State have been singing a different tune since April, when Brewer signed SB1070  --  the state immigration law that has become the focus of a national controversy.

Since then, Brewer's approval ratings have skyrocketed, catapulting her to the top of the polls in the gubernatorial race and launching what may be the biggest political comeback of the year in the U.S..............>>>>...............>>>>.............http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....ign/?test=latestnews
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HUH!  Sounds like election year politics, not good legislation.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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