You just don't get it. Dunno if I should call you capt obvious or professor ::fail
Proof of Citizenship is REQUIRED to get a drivers license.
Stunad
I get it- except proof of citizen ship is NOT REQUIRED to get a regular drivers licence - and most drivers do not actually have the fancy ' enhanced ' license- so Mr hardhead you might still need need to wait for you mom to send your passport or birth certificate to the jail -
July 11, 2010 Governors Voice Grave Concerns on Immigration By ABBY GOODNOUGH
BOSTON — In a private meeting with White House officials this weekend, Democratic governors voiced deep anxiety about the Obama administration’s suit against Arizona’s new immigration law, worrying that it could cost a vulnerable Democratic Party in the fall elections.
While the weak economy dominated the official agenda at the summer meeting here of the National Governors Association, concern over immigration policy pervaded the closed-door session between Democratic governors and White House officials and simmered throughout the three-day event.
At the Democrats’ meeting on Saturday, some governors bemoaned the timing of the Justice Department lawsuit, according to two governors who spoke anonymously because the discussion was private.
“Universally the governors are saying, ‘We’ve got to talk about jobs,’ ” Gov. Phil Bredesen of Tennessee, a Democrat, said in an interview. “And all of a sudden we have immigration going on.”
He added, “It is such a toxic subject, such an important time for Democrats.”
The administration seemed to be taking a carrot-and-stick approach on Sunday. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, in town to give the governors a classified national security briefing, met one-on-one with Jan Brewer, the Republican who succeeded her as governor of Arizona and ardently supports the immigration law..................>>>>..............>>>>...........................................http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/12/us/politics/12governors.html
On immigration, Arizona only doing what fed gov’t won’t
In regard to President Obama’s decision to sue the state of Arizona, Arizona has done nothing beyond the pale or extraordinary in taking legal steps to halt the problems that come with illegal immigration. Federal law already required immigrants, the legal kind, to carry ID at all times, yet you don’t see the president railing against it in Congress. Rhode Island regularly checks the immigration status of people that police encounter, yet nobody screams “racism” about that bluest of blue states. Identity politics drives this. The Democratic Party looks at illegals and sees a new batch of people they can reduce to wards of the state. They have done this before. For years they have pushed and railed that black Americans who don’t go along with their agenda “aren’t really black” or are “Uncle Toms.” They seek to do this with Hispanics as well, and believe if they can legalize the 12 million to 20 million people illegally in this country, they can get them dependent on handouts and make them reliable Democratic votes. We are a nation of immigrants, but before that we are a nation of laws. John Adams, our second president, so believed in the importance of this that he defended the British soldiers responsible for the Boston Massacre. Recent presidents, either seeking votes or cheap labor, ignore the law and now seek to punish any state that does the job they won’t. Drug violence floods over the border, endangering the lives of Americans, and Obama is getting mad at Arizona? Disgraceful.
NYers go for the border By CHARLES HURT Bureau Chief Last Updated: 6:54 AM, July 10, 2010 Posted: 3:54 AM, July 10, 2010
WASHINGTON -- New Yorkers are among the most generous donors to a legal defense fund set up to fight President Obama's challenge to Arizona's crackdown on illegal immigrants.
Nearly 300 New Yorkers have ponied up $11,956 online to the fund that this week had raised almost $700,000, according to numbers compiled by the Arizona Governor's Office.
Donors from only five other states have given more to the effort than New Yorkers. And four of the five states that gave more are on the southern border.
"It's just the right thing to do," said Robert Meigs, of upstate Ontario, who donated $100.
He and his wife learned about the legal relief fund on Facebook, at http://www.keepazsafe.com, and chipped in online.
"The federal government isn't doing their job, and [Arizona] is just trying to enforce the laws," said Meigs, 66, who works as a sales assistant at Staples.
Steven Padin, a cop from Buffalo, donated $10 as a "symbolic" gesture.
"I feel very strongly about the security of this country," he said.
Like many of those giving to the fund, Padin is a strong proponent of legal immigration.
Ironically, he is Hispanic, with Puerto Rican roots.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Re illegal immigration. Very simple, the Democrats want votes and the Republicans want cheap labor. Who wins? The two major political parties and the illegals. Who loses? The taxpayers who fund all this nonsense. Speaking of taxes, why not legalize drugs and put a hefty tax on them? There’s a huge market out there. Why not take advantage of it? The drug dealers sure do.
Re July 16 article, “Ariz. immigration law debated”: I am confused as to why the federal government does not understand the meaning of illegal immigration; why it won’t enforce the laws and why it wants to try and stop Arizona from protecting its people. Our federal government isn’t stupid or ignorant. What can its intentions be? This country was built on legal immigration, and still benefits from it. But we cannot support the unregulated and undocumented flow that is burdening our country’s economy and security.
"...cannot support the unregulated and undocumented flow that is burdening our country’s economy and security. "
...liberal democraps can and WILL. It benefits them politically. Unions can because the democraps tell them too. The American catholic church and the organized religions can because they think they need to show "compassion" and it fills their coffers. It doesnt matter how many bloodthirsty felons and gang members sneak in and reek mayhem on our citizenry- illegal immigrants are a slightly differnt color, meaning they are a MINORITY so they get a pass on everything, Dummies. What don't you get about liberal democraps that you still have to ask? Robert and David and the rest- you have to be the thickest skulled of a thick skulled nation of rubes and chumps to be lead by your nose rings down the path to hell by these criminals who call themselves democraps.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
"...cannot support the unregulated and undocumented flow that is burdening our country’s economy and security. "
...liberal democraps can and WILL. It benefits them politically. Unions can because the democraps tell them too. The American catholic church and the organized religions can because they think they need to show "compassion" and it fills their coffers. It doesnt matter how many bloodthirsty felons and gang members sneak in and reek mayhem on our citizenry- illegal immigrants are a slightly differnt color, meaning they are a MINORITY so they get a pass on everything, Dummies. What don't you get about liberal democraps that you still have to ask? Robert and David and the rest- you have to be the thickest skulled of a thick skulled nation of rubes and chumps to be lead by your nose rings down the path to hell by these criminals who call themselves democraps.
How can you make this a democrat issue? After 9-11 the Republicans controlled both houses and the White House, and THEY did nothing of any substance to stop illegal immigration. Just look at John McCain as he twists in the wind trying to retain his Senate seat. He's attempting to reverse field on his immigration position just 18 months ago. Both parties have been ignoring the people's will on this issue. They both are playing politics with this issue trying not to alienate the growing Hispanic voting bloc.
It does really make me wonder.....if there were TRULY terrorists.....and IF terrorism truly was a national security threat.....the boarders would have been closed on 912!!! But they weren't!! Doesn't that make anyone wonder why??????
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Migrants sell up and flee Arizona ahead of crackdown
By Tim Gaynor Sun Jul 25, 1:43 pm ET
PHOENIX (Reuters) – Nicaraguan mother Lorena Aguilar hawks a television set and a few clothes on the baking sidewalk outside her west Phoenix apartment block. A few paces up the street, her undocumented Mexican neighbor Wendi Villasenor touts a kitchen table, some chairs and a few dishes as her family scrambles to get out of Arizona ahead of a looming crackdown on illegal immigrants. "Everyone is selling up the little they have and leaving," said Villasenor, 31, who is headed for Pennsylvania. "We have no alternative. They have us cornered." The two women are among scores of illegal immigrant families across Phoenix hauling the contents of their homes into the yard this weekend as they rush to sell up and get out before the state law takes effect on Thursday. The law, the toughest imposed by any U.S. state to curb illegal immigration, seeks to drive more than 400,000 undocumented day laborers, landscapers, house cleaners, chambermaids and other workers out of Arizona, which borders Mexico. It makes being an illegal immigrant a state crime and requires state and local police, during lawful contact, to investigate the status of anyone they reasonably suspect of being an illegal immigrant. The U.S. government estimates 100,000 unauthorized migrants left Arizona after the state passed an employer sanctions law three years ago requiring companies to verify workers' status using a federal computer system. There are no figures for the number who have left since the new law passed in April. Some are heading back to Mexico or to neighboring states. Others are staying put and taking their chances...................>>>>.................>>>>................http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_immigration_arizona
The Illegal problem in Arizona is an easy fix... but won't happen.
Make hiring illegals a felony with mandatory prison time for a 2nd offender, and the illegal problem stops overnight. No jobs, no illegals, except for those dealing drugs... who won't be deterred by SB1070 anyway.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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