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TippyCanoe
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maybe she should show up to work like our highway dept crews!  

or the guys who fix water main breaks!

or volunteer fire fighters!

our town has the clearest roads in the area hands down on a bad weather day - except at kevin and peeper houses - get your a** to work or move to rotterdam

administrator? we hired a secretary when did she get promoted??? we have an "Elected Supervisor"

next she'll want another $30K

connected to what? a drug dealing slum lord from NYC

Vadeur no disrespect

i dont want what happened to schenectady to happen to rotterdam


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no double dipping on guaranteed government pensions/insurance either.....once retired from a county position in Fulton one cannot go back on payroll for over $25,000/year....true in all municipalities????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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... But she will be the clerk.  


She will be the clerk if the Dems put her in there to take EE's place but that would only be temporary...if she is on the ticket, she will never be elected!   At least that is what my friends at the Senior Center are telling me!

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KM-I can not believe you are raising such an issue.  ou guys sure didn't care when ST was out and about beyond Rotterdam's borders.  He wasn't even answering and returning his calls.  You guys weren't griping then.


Boomer, are you still talking about the time your daughter tried calling ST to move the construction trucks from her front yard?   Give it up.  Anyway, ST's secretary handled the call without having to involve the Supvr; that's what a valuable assistant does!

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Clubhouse --do you have any friends in the senior center?  She will definitely be elected.  When did she ever lose an election?  She will run against John DeGeorgio and she will beat him.  ST was always AWOL.  Not a bad thing btw, he was a lousy super--
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Sorry Clubhouse - my daughter and  son live in Washinton.  ST never returned my neighbor's call.  Problem in our neighborhood and several neighbors called and no response ever came.  We were surprised because they were Reps.  He was lousy at his job.  

Let me ask you a rhetorical question--you're sick and call the doctor--who do you want to call you back the receptionist or the doc?  You take the job as the head honcho--returning calls comes with the territory.  I called a federal judge the other day in DC--guess what he picked up the phone.  I realize ST has no social skills but when a neighborhood is pi$$ed off--call back.
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Sorry Clubhouse - my daughter and  son live in Washinton.  ST never returned my neighbor's call.  Problem in our neighborhood and several neighbors called and no response ever came.  We were surprised because they were Reps.  He was lousy at his job.  

Let me ask you a rhetorical question--you're sick and call the doctor--who do you want to call you back the receptionist or the doc?  You take the job as the head honcho--returning calls comes with the territory.  I called a federal judge the other day in DC--guess what he picked up the phone.  I realize ST has no social skills but when a neighborhood is pi$$ed off--call back.


No disrespect intended, but personally, I'd want the fastest call back possible ... if it's the receptionist to triage the call, fine ... as long as she/he can triage and dispatch the proper person to handle it.  Right?  If it sounded to the receptionist like a matter of life and death, she can find the supervisor/doctor, that's her job.  If it's a "he stepped on my toe" issue, well, a routine appointment, or a nurse can probably handle it just fine, and if the nurse can't - she can refer to the dr - that's triage.

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May I say yet again.....I could care less who is the town clerk. I don't know what all the hub bub is about this 'clerk' position. One doesn't have to be a geneous to be a 'clerk'.  And I won't vote for the position in the next election either. Like years before.  This position does not carry with it any merit or any decision making power....hence it should not be an elected political position.

The only thing I object to is the price tag and benefits that come along with the position. (no matter who holds the position) It is an overpaid and over exaggerated, self elevated 'clerk' position!


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This position does not carry with it any merit or any decision making power....hence it should not be an elected political position.


Gotta disagree with you Bumble on that, in Rotterdam the town clerk is a significant position, generally the "center of local govt"

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Recording Secretary

Authors minute books, the only official record of the activities of the Town government. The resulting volumes are retained permanently for legal and historic purposes. Few individuals are entrusted with a responsibility of this magnitude.
Records Management Officer

Custodian of all Town records, responsible for the active files, storage and disposition of inactive records and the careful maintenance of archival material.
Filing Officer

Maintains records of adopted Town Ordinances and Local Laws, Town Oaths of Office, resignations, petitions, proof of publications, annual budgets, assessment rolls, fiscal reports, notices of lien, subpoena and court actions, bonds/notes registers, zoning ordinances and maps.

Maintains public signboard, advertises and receives bids for purchase of Town materials, files burial permits from cemeteries located within the Town.
Marriage Officer

Officiates at weddings.
Registrar of Vital Statistics

A appointed keeper of all birth and death records within a community, issuing birth and death certificates, burial permits, as well as conducting genealogical searches.



http://rotterdamny.org/main/departmentdetails.asp?DepartmentName=Town+Clerk


The alternative would be to a have an appointed "secretary" who could be hired/fired at will. Which is FINE ... if that's the way it's setup, but personally, with the responsibilities of the office above, I think with the "perks" of being elected, come the responsibilities and governing over by not only the town board, but also the state who creates and enforces the rules she must abide by.  

If it were an "off the street" hire, do you really think you'd get "integrity" and personal responsibility that this office requires?  (Note, I DO feel that the integrity has been undermined/exploited - and therefore the weight of the State Govt should come upon it right now in enforcement ... thankfully).
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It's a 'file clerk'! A glorified job description! These glorified job descriptions are created all the time to justify a higher wage and benefits.


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KM-I can not believe you are raising such an issue.  ou guys sure didn't care when ST was out and about beyond Rotterdam's borders.  He wasn't even answering and returning his calls.  You guys weren't griping then.  Come to grips with the fact it just isn't your turn now.  The Dems are in and like it or not they have the upper hand.


How is it that you know whether I was griping or not?  How do you know if I was getting answers or not?  Or the fact that maybe I WAS getting answers, whether they were full answers or not is my decision, not yours.  I realize it's the "Dems turn" and I don't see that things are going as well...and now I'm paying more for it.  I would complain just the same if it was Republicans that were in power.  The Dems are in and like it or not they have the upper hand...until the next election and the decision can be made all over.


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Bumble--How many file clerks would you like to see witnessing marriages?  Clerk's job is more important than the TB seat.  But if you don't want to vote for that position don't.  Your vote is your choice.  Are you going to be counted in the Census?  Or is that just some silly effort as well?
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Clerk's job is more important than the TB seat.


WHAT?

Only in the mind of those with dementia

I would give you important as in keeping records neat, organized, secure, properly rotated, and destroyed of properly, not left in a big mess with non town employees having access to medical records and SS#'s

I would give you important as the duties bestowed upon the position and the OATH taken

Not more important than a town board member, supervisor or judge

I believe the privledge of marriage is given by the town board



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WHAT?

Only in the mind of those with dementia

I would give you important as in keeping records neat, organized, secure, properly rotated, and destroyed of properly, not left in a big mess with non town employees having access to medical records and SS#'s

I would give you important as the duties bestowed upon the position and the OATH taken

Not more important than a town board member, supervisor or judge

I believe the privledge of marriage is given by the town board



EE performed my ceremony at town hall...,is it voted upon by the TB first or is it automatically delegated to the clerk? As for the clerk position being important.....

I believe in my research it is the clerk that can make or break an administration by the clerks dealings/upholding of regs/policies/procedures in house or as the liason with
other agencies, county, state, fed etc.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Recording Secretary

Authors minute books, the only official record of the activities of the Town government. The resulting volumes are retained permanently for legal and historic purposes. Few individuals are entrusted with a responsibility of this magnitude.

SHE HASN'T AUTHORED ANYTHING IN YEARS

Records Management Officer

Custodian of all Town records, responsible for the active files, storage and disposition of inactive records and the careful maintenance of archival material.

SHE IS ONLY THE CUSTODIAN IF SHE CAN FIND WHERE SHE LEFT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE

Filing Officer


Maintains records of adopted Town Ordinances and Local Laws, Town Oaths of Office, resignations, petitions, proof of publications, annual budgets, assessment rolls, fiscal reports, notices of lien, subpoena and court actions, bonds/notes registers, zoning ordinances and maps.

DON'T ASK HERE WHERE THESE FILES ARE KEPT, ESPECIALLY THE ASSESSMENT ROLLS, SHE TELLS YOU TO CALL
THE ASSESSOR

Maintains public signboard, advertises and receives bids for purchase of Town materials, files burial permits from cemeteries located within the Town.

Marriage Officer

Officiates at weddings.
Registrar of Vital Statistics

A appointed keeper of all birth and death records within a community, issuing birth and death certificates, burial permits, as well as conducting genealogical searches.

Yadda, yadda, yadda
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