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                Check  this guy's credentials.  Then, read the  letter he wrote below.
                
                  
                    
                Born  St. Louis , Missouri , August 21,  1944
                Bar  Admissions:
                North  Carolina, 1969
                U.S.  District Court, Eastern, Middle and Western  Districts of North Carolina ,  1969
                U.S.  Tax Court
                Fourth  Circuit Court of Appeals
                Education:  Woodford College , 1966A.B.
                Mercer  University, 1969J.D.
                Phi  Alpha Delta
                Vice-Justice,  District XIV, 1968 - 1969
                Professional  Associations and Memberships:
                North  Carolina and American Bar Associations (Member,  Sections on: Administrative Law; General  Practice; Litigation)
                26th  Judicial District and North Carolina State  Bar
                Mecklenburg  County Bar Association
                American  Association of Justice
                North  Carolina Trial Lawyers  Association
                Captain,  U.S. Army, 1969-1971, Vietnam
                National  Defense Medal, 1969
                Republic  of Viet Nam Service Medal,  1970
                Bronze  Star Medals (2), 1971
                Assistant  District Attorney, Mecklenburg County , 1971 -  1974
                Charlotte  Chamber of Commerce
                Chairman,  Board of Trustees Providence United Methodist  Church
                Board  of Directors, Alexander Children's  Home
                Board  of Directors, Charlotte Culinary  Institute
                Wofford  Alumni Executive Council
                Scoutmaster,  Boy Scouts of America
                Board  of Directors, Boy Scouts of America of  Mecklenburg County
                Board  of Directors, Girl Scout  Council
                Life  Member, National Eagle Scout  Association
                Life  Member, Girl Scouts of  America
                
                
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Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C.
Attorneys At Law
719 East Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113
Telephone xxx-xxx-xxxx
Facsimile xxx-xxx-xxxxdlguthrie@gdhs.com

Dear Ms. Pelosi:

I write to you out of utter disdain! You are as despicable and un-American as the traitor Jane Fonda.

I am a soon-to-be 65-year-old who has voted in every state and local election since 1966. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats alike. I have worked on campaigns for both Republicans and Democrats, white and black. I served the country that I love in Vietnam, as my son did in the Middle East. I was awarded two bronze stars. I have been involved in politics since age 6 when my father was the campaign manager for a truly great American congressman, Charles Raper Jonas, who worked for his contituents and his country, and was to be admired, unlike you.

You obviously haven't read the Constitution recently, if ever, the Federalist Papers, or even David McCullough's book on John Adams. You ought to take the time while riding around in your government provided luxury executive jet to do just that. You represent Socialistic and even Marxist principals that our Founding Fathers tried to avoid when setting out the capitalist republican form of government represented by our Constitution.

I find it interesting that you and your husband are multi-millionaires with much of your fortune being made as a result of your "public service". You have controlled legislation that has enhanced your husband's investments both on and off shore. At the same time you redistributed the wealth of others. Our system of a free market economy is being destroyed by the likes of you, Harry Reid, and now our President. You ride around in a gulf-stream airplane at the tax payers' expense while criticizing the presidents of companies who produced something for the economy. You add nothing to the economy of the United States; you only subtract therefrom.

I would like to sugggest that you return to the city of fruitcakes and nuts and eat your husband's canned tuna and pineapple produced by illegal immigrants and by workers who have been excluded from the protection that 90% of the legal workers in the United States have.

I await your defeat in the next election with glee.

Don't ever use the term "un-American" again for protesters who love this country and are exercising their rights upon which this country was founded. By the way, while I served in the army, I was spit on by the same type of lunatics who support you and who you probably supported in the 60s and 70s. You are an embarrassment to all of us who served so that you would have the protected right of free speech to call us un-American. But at the same time, I have the right to write you to notify you that I consider you to be un-American, as do the majority of the poeple of this formerly great country. You are a true disgrace to most of the people who served this country by offering themselves for public service in the United States Congress.

I feel certain your aides will not share this letter with you, but I intend to share it with many.

Sincerely,
Dennis L. Guthrie





                  
                    
                


                




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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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With regard to this pathetic man-  This guy is a typical egocentric, me oriented lawyer. He is a disgrace to the ABA

His main complaint seems to be that Mrs. Pelosi flies around in a "gulfstream airplane". Gosh, I wonder how HE travels around...? Does he walk to Washington? He spends more time talking about his "credintials" than stating any meaningful or even logical grievence against Mrs. Pelosi.


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Wrong again, he's complaining that Pelosi isn't following the laws per the Constitution in the way she handles the house affairs, wastes money at a time when most Americans are suffering financially, and has already made a ton of money by diverting jobs to her husbands business while the citizens of this country have lost a lot of their life savings. You're probably the only person besides Pelosi herself that's happy with her performance, the woman is a disgrace.
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Yep- this is guy worth defending ?
For those who don't know who G. Edward Griffin is, take a look at his bio, - he is identified as, among other things, a member of the John Birch Society who worked on the 1968 presidential campaign of notorious southern racist George Wallace, specifically as a speechwriter for General Curtis "Bomb 'em back to the stone age" LeMay.

This guy went to college?   Does he know that "the Founding Fathers" created the Constitution some 30 years before Karl Marx was born?  Do you think he read Marx. He read a biography of John Adams. That helps. Does he have a beef with such socialist programs as the Interstate Highway, the Post Office, Medicare, the Veteran's Administration, the FCC, the FDA, air traffic controllers, public schools, the IRS, the Census?


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Yep- this is guy worth defending ?
For those who don't know who G. Edward Griffin is, take a look at his bio, - he is identified as, among other things, a member of the John Birch Society who worked on the 1968 presidential campaign of notorious southern racist George Wallace, specifically as a speechwriter for General Curtis "Bomb 'em back to the stone age" LeMay.

This guy went to college?   Does he know that "the Founding Fathers" created the Constitution some 30 years before Karl Marx was born?  Do you think he read Marx. He read a biography of John Adams. That helps. Does he have a beef with such socialist programs as the Interstate Highway, the Post Office, Medicare, the Veteran's Administration, the FCC, the FDA, air traffic controllers, public schools, the IRS, the Census? Should I go on. When you praise the thoughts of a fellow like Mr. Guthrie you're on the way to handing Timothy McVeigh a medal-


I think everyone looks back at what they thought, said and did 42 years ago and laugh or turn red from embarrassment. Life evolves, society changes and people grow wiser (hopefully) I can't quite follow your thought of reasoning....never really can!
Does his, or anyone elses actions of 42 years ago negate his thoughts and opinions on the government today?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Curtis LeMay was a great American. Too bad our military brass today is made up up pencil-pushing sociologists. We need more LeMays. Doolittles and Pattons too.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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They kept this country safe and helped free all of Europe and the peoples of the Pacific Islands.
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I think everyone looks back at what they thought, said and did 42 years ago and laugh or turn red from embarrassment. Life evolves, society changes and people grow wiser (hopefully) I can't quite follow your thought of reasoning....never really can!
Does his, or anyone elses actions of 42 years ago negate his thoughts and opinions on the government today?


Unfortunately, I gotta side with the opposition on this one.  Two Words:

Jane Fonda
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And that "capitalist republican form of government"? The US Constitution is remarkably silent on economic matters -- in fact, like "god", there is not a single reference to capitalism, freemarket economics or anything that could remotely be considered "economic" in nature, other than recognizing the existence of slavery, but only to establish in law that a slave was only three-fifths of a man.

The other charges? They are both stale and overblown, and have pretty much proved to be lies by now:
· Pelosi's "luxury" jet? Check what  what SNOPES has to say about that.
· Star-Kist Tuna, American Samoa and Nancy Pelosi's husband? Check  Check SNOPES again.
· Redistributing wealth? SNOPES- again


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Pelosi Spends Hundreds of Thousands on Travel, Alcohol
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Wednesday, February 3rd at 12:20PM EST
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has squandered over $101,000 tax dollars on “in-flight services” on congressional delegations since 2008, according to new documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by the government watchdog group Judicial Watch.

Expenditures on Pelosi-led CODELs, the group’s report shows, include thousands for liquor, beer and wine. Receipts show purchase of Johnny Walker, Grey Goose, Beefeater, Maker’s Mark, Courvoisier, Dewars, Bombay Sapphire and more, all courtesy of the American tax payer.

During the same two-year period, the entirety of Speaker Pelosi’s travel expenditures, including the use of Air Force aircraft for herself and relatives, cost the Department of Defense $2,100,749.59.

Judicial Watch’s report Wednesday captured the attention of the social conservative American Family Association, who called Pelosi’s expenses an “abuse of taxpayer dollars” in an urgent action alert to supporters.

“While many families struggle to make ends meet financially, the leader of the people’s House is snatching money out of their wallets to treat her guests to the finest and most expensive booze money can buy so they can party down while in the air,” the email read.

“[D]emand that your representative hold [Pelosi] accountable on your behalf. Urge your representative to conduct an investigation into this abuse and report back to you directly.”

On average, the Air Force incurred expenses of $28,000 per flight for Pelosi to travel from Washington, D.C. to her home district in San Francisco. Of the 103 international congressional delegations led by Pelosi, members of the Speaker’s family joined her for 31 trips.............................................>>>>................>>>>................http://www.redstate.com/jricha.....s-on-travel-alcohol/
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our form of 'economics' came into existence with the formation of treasury notes as legal tender.......the rest is/was/always will be trade......those who 'collect' $$ off our backs like it that way.....

IRS-constitutional?
federal reserve-constitutional?
guaranteed pensions-constitutional?.....etc etc etc......

THAT is why the constitution says nothing about capitalism and economic matters.......we elected these 'legal begal law-makers' into office to preside OVER US....when did that happen????

GET OFF MY BACK


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Jay Ambrose: Ask American Samoa how minimum wage killed jobs
By: Jay Ambrose
Examiner Columnist
January 20, 2010 It was a warm and fuzzy feature. It was on CBS's "60 Minutes," and told how American Samoa produced a wildly disproportionate number of NFL football players for its population of 65,000.

It was nice to be hearing something positive amid all the current sadness until the announcer mentioned in passing how the economy of that South Pacific territory had been ruined by a minimum wage mandate from Congress.

What? Could it be that Congress had again found a way to wreck people's lives?

I looked it up. It is true. In 2007, Congress bypassed the usual method of having the Labor Department adjust American Samoan wage minimums and dictated that the current $3.76 for canning fish would increase to $7.25 in stages by 2014. It wasn't all that long before Chicken of the Sea said goodbye, we're gone, have fun.

That meant a loss of 2,041 jobs right there, and the next thing you knew, Star Kist was also reducing jobs, and if you think a couple of thousand jobs here and another thousand or two there don't mean anything, understand that when you put all the possible losses together, you are talking about more than a fourth of the employment picture on those islands.

For better than a half-century, canning has been the heart of economy in American Samoa as the territory has sent the United States a reported two-thirds of the canned tuna bought here. No wonder we learn from one writer that Samoans themselves didn't want this new minimum.

Given competition from Thailand (pay at 60 cents an hour) and a host of other factors, they knew the increase could kill the industry locally. And even though the Obama administration has recently delayed the next round of wage increases, it looks possible that the demise has all but occurred with little to no chance of resurrection.

All of this is incredible because dozens of studies over past decades have proved beyond any reasonable doubt that minimum wage increases invariably do more harm than good, often eliminating jobs or making them part time. Beginners don't get a chance to get a foothold and start the climb to better things.

It's hardly ever heads of households who hold the minimum wage jobs, but other contributors who suddenly aren't making anything to contribute. Small businesses that might eventually have grown into large businesses get flattened. And meanwhile, we are talking a tiny fraction of hourly workers who make the minimum, something under 2 percent.

So what you get with these increases are strutting, obnoxious politicians pretending to be great benefactors of the human race at the same time they are kicking people to economic death. We are seeing a lot of this kind of thing in Washington today -- a stimulus bill that cost as much as the Iraq war and has stimulated very nearly nothing and, most famously at the moment, health care legislation that could help throw this country into an economic tailspin as it achieves nothing to improve health care, and not a fraction of what was promised in any other regard.

And, of course, President Obama has another minimum wage increase in mind for the country as a whole after he finishes up some other mischief, ranging from plans to make illegal aliens legal, to plans to strangle the possibilities of recession-ending growth with new missions adopted by his Environmental Protection Agency.

For the moment, I am feeling especially sorry for the Samoans. That "60 Minutes" episode showed what a truly special spirit they seem to have. They are now going to need it for a lot more than football success.



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer......2.html#ixzz0fGktOlcL
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Jay Ambrose: Ask American Samoa how minimum wage killed jobs
By: Jay Ambrose
Examiner Columnist
January 20, 2010 It was a warm and fuzzy feature. It was on CBS's "60 Minutes," and told how American Samoa produced a wildly disproportionate number of NFL football players for its population of 65,000.

It was nice to be hearing something positive amid all the current sadness until the announcer mentioned in passing how the economy of that South Pacific territory had been ruined by a minimum wage mandate from Congress.

What? Could it be that Congress had again found a way to wreck people's lives?

I looked it up. It is true. In 2007, Congress bypassed the usual method of having the Labor Department adjust American Samoan wage minimums and dictated that the current $3.76 for canning fish would increase to $7.25 in stages by 2014. It wasn't all that long before Chicken of the Sea said goodbye, we're gone, have fun.

That meant a loss of 2,041 jobs right there, and the next thing you knew, Star Kist was also reducing jobs, and if you think a couple of thousand jobs here and another thousand or two there don't mean anything, understand that when you put all the possible losses together, you are talking about more than a fourth of the employment picture on those islands.

For better than a half-century, canning has been the heart of economy in American Samoa as the territory has sent the United States a reported two-thirds of the canned tuna bought here. No wonder we learn from one writer that Samoans themselves didn't want this new minimum.

Given competition from Thailand (pay at 60 cents an hour) and a host of other factors, they knew the increase could kill the industry locally. And even though the Obama administration has recently delayed the next round of wage increases, it looks possible that the demise has all but occurred with little to no chance of resurrection.

All of this is incredible because dozens of studies over past decades have proved beyond any reasonable doubt that minimum wage increases invariably do more harm than good, often eliminating jobs or making them part time. Beginners don't get a chance to get a foothold and start the climb to better things.

It's hardly ever heads of households who hold the minimum wage jobs, but other contributors who suddenly aren't making anything to contribute. Small businesses that might eventually have grown into large businesses get flattened. And meanwhile, we are talking a tiny fraction of hourly workers who make the minimum, something under 2 percent.

So what you get with these increases are strutting, obnoxious politicians pretending to be great benefactors of the human race at the same time they are kicking people to economic death. We are seeing a lot of this kind of thing in Washington today -- a stimulus bill that cost as much as the Iraq war and has stimulated very nearly nothing and, most famously at the moment, health care legislation that could help throw this country into an economic tailspin as it achieves nothing to improve health care, and not a fraction of what was promised in any other regard.

And, of course, President Obama has another minimum wage increase in mind for the country as a whole after he finishes up some other mischief, ranging from plans to make illegal aliens legal, to plans to strangle the possibilities of recession-ending growth with new missions adopted by his Environmental Protection Agency.

For the moment, I am feeling especially sorry for the Samoans. That "60 Minutes" episode showed what a truly special spirit they seem to have. They are now going to need it for a lot more than football success.



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer......2.html#ixzz0fGktOlcL


What a BS article.  Lets see, last increase was 2009.. but passed in 2007.. who was president.. next increase has been shelved by who currently?   What a laugh er.   This has NOTHING to do with Obama, yet he's mentioned a few times as he was pulling the bush admin's strings.  



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In 2007 Congress bypassed the usual channels to pass a minimum wage increase by using the labor department. Obama only has a chance to raise it another increment if he approves of it. The Dems controlled Congress when this was done if you read the article. Obama had nothing to do with the original wage increase but can raise the wage higher if he wants. Read the article again slowly this time.
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In 2007 Congress bypassed the usual channels to pass a minimum wage increase by using the labor department. Obama only has a chance to raise it another increment if he approves of it. The Dems controlled Congress when this was done if you read the article. Obama had nothing to do with the original wage increase but can raise the wage higher if he wants. Read the article again slowly this time.
  Bush passed on veto-ing it, which he could have easily done.  



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