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Brad Littlefield
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While running for elected office, I was considering where government services and facilities could be consolidated to
realize economies of scale, to improve service and/or to reduce costs.  Many came to mind, several of which I discussed
during my campaign (central dispatch, central booking, payroll, etc.).

One question for which I was unable to obtain an answer regards the Town of Rotterdam Compost Facility located on
Princetown Road.

Is an agreement in place between Schenectady County and the Town of Rotterdam whereby Rotterdam receives a credit for
operating their own town compost facility rather than taking branches, leaves, storm debris and such to the
county facility on Hetcheltown Road, Glenville?  Do the costs associated with the additional fuel and employee time
saved by having a local facility offset the costs of operations (staff, equipment, insurance, etc.)?  

Seemed peculiar to me that the town of Rottedam has their own facility.

Does the town sell the mulch, compost and top soil to residents like Schenectady County does?

http://rotterdamny.org/main/departmentdetails.asp?DepartmentName=Highway+Department
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I always wondered why, we as rotterdamians, paid for both the county compost facility when we had one here in town. Unless they both served different services.


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Just a staging area for the stuff not an actual compost.  Too many times slapped by DEC for not being able to run it correctly.  Just got slapped again by DEC if my memory serves me correctly.  Not to worry, FDG will just burn it!  LOL
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Do we actually need a 'staging area'? How much does rotterdam spend on employees and machinery to service this 'staging area'? Wouldn't there be a cost savings to just close it down and run the 'stuff' over to the county compost facility?

When the town picks up leaves/tree debris, isn't it or can't it be taken directly to the county facility? And does the county facility have the means to handle this? Perhaps this is already done....just wondering.


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how would that be green?
with hundreds of gas pickem' up trucks and cars running further to the county location
a larger high compression oil burner is much more efficient ie big truck

just in concept...

in reality
i cant say how efficient the larger truck is or if all the pickups and cars were part of Aug. and Sept 2009
economic stimulus.

how about 20K for lawn and leaf bags that sell for 20K - what about a handling fee???
dont stock, grossmans, home depot, kmart, price chopper, and walmart sell them???


for real fun how about 501K for brush and weed removal





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BUMP!!!1


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Ist the compost facility on larnard's property - what is with that?
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Ist the compost facility on larnard's property - what is with that?


If it's not on it, it definitely borders it.  I don't know who the actual owner of the property is, or if they are given any breaks for the fact that the town is using it.  


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maybe the fees will be used to build the ball fields??????


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maybe the fees will be used to build the ball fields??????


Sorry to say, but I believe the kids of Rotterdam are going to be severely disappointed next year when they don't have ball fields.  It doesn't look like there's going to be enough progress to get them done this year.  Where is everybody that said they were going to help, like Judy Dagostino, who is actually the reason the kids are in this situation in the first place?


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Schenectady County Secures New Home for Rotterdam Little League

The Schenectady County Legislature unanimously approved the purchase of 8.7 acres of real estate in the Town of Rotterdam for parkland and to create a new home for the Rotterdam Little League at the March 9, 2010 regular meeting of the Legislature.

The Rotterdam Little League needs a new location because the owner of its current site plans to develop the property. The purchase of the new site will allow for the relocation of the current ball fields and allow the development of a 248 unit apartment complex which will bring new tax revenues to the County, Town, and school district. Schenectady County will use special dedicated parks and recreation funds to purchase the land.

“I am pleased that the County Legislature is able to step forward and use this funding to secure a new home for the Rotterdam Little League,” said Judy Dagostino, Schenectady County Legislator and sponsors of the resolution. “Hundreds of Rotterdam youth will benefit every year from this investment in our future.”

County officials have secured an agreement to purchase approximately 8.7 acres of land at 544 Burdeck Street for $260,000, significantly less than the appraised value of $600,000. The difference in value will be donated to the county by the current owner. The Rotterdam Little League will lease field space from the County. The Little League will be responsible for all the costs associated with developing and building the new baseball fields.

Founded in 1950, the Rotterdam Little League has about 400 players each season. The league promotes self discipline, initiative, team spirit, sportsmanship, family and community as its core values.


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Little league fields stalled
Rotterdam baseball club upset about delay, coffers dwindling away
By John Purcell As of Friday, June 22, 2012 -3:27 p.m.
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#ROTTERDAM — A youth baseball league is hoping a deal to secure new fields doesn’t strike out.

#Rotterdam Little League officials are concerned players will be benched next season after an agreement to build new fields has languished amidst developer negotiations with the town over where to place sewage infrastructure.

#An approved plan to build a 248-unit apartment complex is moving the Little League from its temporary home on North Thompson Street. Developer Timothy Larned agreed to sell the county 8.7 acres of land off Burdeck Street to use as parkland that will serve as a permanent home for the league, but the sale has hinged on Larned receiving a building permit for the unrelated apartments.

#The County Legislature in March 2010 approved purchasing the parcel for $260,000, tapping funds designated for expanding and improving parks. County Attorney Christopher Gardner said Larned wouldn’t sign off on the sale until the apartment complex proceeds.

#“I believe in the next day or two all those issues will be resolved,” Gardner said on Tuesday, June 19.

#Larned allowed the league to continue using its current fields for the 2012 season, which concluded on Friday, June 15.

#Once the sale is final, the league will lease the land from the county and primarily be responsible for constructing the new fields, Gardner said, with the county assisting “however it can” within its “budgetary constraints.”

#The league has other, issues, however. At the start of this year’s season, power was to the league’s concession stands was cut off in April as demolition work began on the old Rotterdam Republican Club, through which power was previously fed.

#League President Matthew Rash said the powerless concession stands yielded only a fraction of the previous year’s profit, amounting to a 90 percent loss of revenue, or roughly $25,000.

#“This constitutes a major portion of the money used to fund the league,” Rash said. “We could not be in a worse scenario moving forward to the 2013 season.”

Rash pleaded to the Rotterdam Town Board for help during its meeting on Wednesday, June 13, asking town officials to do whatever they can to move forward efforts to open the new fields.

#“We are here today to beg for help for our league’s future,” he said. “Failure to initiate the construction quickly on the new fields will destroy Rotterdam Little League and have a ripple effect on the Babe Ruth programs, as we are a feeder program for that league.”

#There are more than 300 youth participating in the league, stretching from T-ball to majors, according to Rash, and he is hoping the new fields can be prepared in time for the upcoming season.

#“A new home has been found for the league, but it is just out of reach,” Rash said. “This is a hard pill to swallow for the families of the youth that participate in the league and desperately want the tradition to continue.”

#Grass seed would need to be placed by this fall to ensure the fields are ready for the season, Rash said.

#Rotterdam resident Peg Raymond, a mother of two children playing in the league, also implored the board for a speedy resolution.

#“You all could be a part of making history for the town,” Raymond said.

#She said her 8-year-old son and 5-year-old daughter are looking forward to playing for years to come.

#Town Supervisor Harry Buffardi said the town doesn’t want to impede the league and is working towards opening the fields for next season. Buffardi blamed politics for stalling the project.

#Buffardi said after entering office this year he was informed Larned wouldn’t be paying parkland fees associated with developing the site, which is required of any site developed in the town.

#“I was told that there was a handshake agreement that allowed the principals of this site not to pay the parkland fees,” he said.

The associated fees totaled around $124,000, according to Buffardi, which he said would have to be made up by other taxpayers.

#“I quite frankly did not buy into that deal,” he said. “I kind of thought that might nix the deal. It did not, negotiations continued on.”

#The original plan called for a sewage pump station for the apartment project to be built at the site of the current fields. This would pump sewage downhill and the developer would maintain the site. Buffardi said sewage pumping is needed because the project isn’t eligible for a septic tank.

#Developers now want to move the pump station off the property and onto town-owned land, which the town would maintain. If this was pursued, the project would go back before the town Planning Commission.

#Buffardi said he talked to some planning members and they were “not real favorable” to having the pump station at the bottom of a hill and publicly owned.

#Richard Larmour, a Schenectady resident, said for decades the Little League has used donated land, but for the past five years the organization knew it was going to lose the area.

#Larmour also said other local baseball complexes wouldn’t be able to house the league.

#“The Woestina fields, the complex isn’t large enough for what needs to be done,” he said. “The Carman complex is also not large enough to incorporate adding Rotterdam Little League with it … it wouldn’t work out.”

#In October 2010, County officials said the site plan for the new facility includes three baseball fields, a pair of dugouts and bleachers for each field, a central concession and restroom building, a plaza area with some landscaping and a parking lot with 120 spaces.

#Buffardi remained confident a deal could be reached.

#“I see no reason to panic at this point,” he said. “I hope that gives some assurance.”


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All the politicians that promised to get land and develop it for the Little League did what all in politics do, lie to you that something will be done and then they do nothing.
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#“I see no reason to panic at this point,” he said. “I hope that gives some assurance.”


Here we are....two months later...seems like it's time to Panic.  

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SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL


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