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Home-schooler ordered to attend public school

A New Hampshire court ordered a home-schooled Christian girl to attend a public school this week after a judge criticized the "rigidity" of her mother's religious views and said the 10-year-old needed to consider other worldviews as she matures.

Ever since the judge's ruling came out in July, the case has aroused the interest of home-schooling groups nationwide, whohave asked why a court has the power to decide whether someone's religious views are too extreme.

The girl's mother, Brenda Voydatch, has engaged the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal group based in Scottsdale, Ariz., to contest the ruling, in which the judge granted a request by the girl's father, Martin Kurowski, that the girl go to a public school.

On Tuesday, the girl, Amanda Kurowski, started fifth grade at an elementary school in Meredith, N.H., under court order. Amanda's "vigorous defense of her religious beliefs ... suggests strongly that she has not had the opportunity to seriously consider any other point of view," District Court Judge Lucinda V. Sadler said.

The case is the latest in a series of disputes this summer which have tested the limits of parents' right to raise their children in line with their religious beliefs.

• Two court cases saw parents who relied on prayer being tried for the deaths of their children. In Wisconsin, Dale and Leilani Neumann were found guilty of second-degree reckless homicide in the death of their 11-year-old diabetic daughter, Kara. In Oregon, Carl and Raylene Worthington were acquitted of manslaughter in the pneumonia death of their 15-month-old daughter, though the father was found guilty of a lesser count, criminal mistreatment.

• The case of Daniel Hauser, a 13-year-old Minnesota boy with Hodgkin's lymphoma, precipitated a national manhunt that dominated the news in May. Mother Colleen Hauser defied legal authorities that ordered the boy to be treated by oncologists and fled with her son, citing family beliefs in traditional American Indian medicine.

But those cases all involved physical danger and the state attempting to prove that parents were acting recklessly. In the New Hampshire case, the court ruled that extreme religiosity by itself constitutes grounds on which to rule against a parent's wishes.

According to court documents filed in Laconia, a small city in the central New Hampshire's Belknap County, Amanda is a well-adjusted childwhose parents were divorced in 1999.

The mother has primary physical custody of Amanda, whom she has home-schooled for several years in math, English, social studies, science, handwriting, spelling and the Bible.............(continued)http://washingtontimes.com/new.....?feat=home_headlines

of course I could say something but whatever I say you will find the opposite view of so I might as well not. However my guess is that the kind of judges that would make a decision like this are typically judges that activist liberal elected officials put in place, although there have been notable liberals installed by Republicans who didn't bother to look really close at the people they put into office. I know you think a third party would do better but my guess is that you will have social liberals in that third party who do the picking. Not conservatives.

However there also seems to be a strong dynamic of the custody dispute that is to be found when reading the whole story (3 pages on the Wash. Times website) and what we see above is not the whole story.

I don't see why Muslim/Christian/Pagan/$RANDOM extremest shouldn't be allowed to teach their children their beliefs. The only issue here is the custody issue. Both religious and not-so-religious parents try to turn their kids against the other parent during separation and divorce-

As usual GM tries to infect every issue with some political spin-

IMHO any religion that teaches hate and teaches that their followers  should kill anyone who has a different beliefs than they do should not be allowed to teach on US soil.

Quoted from Shadow

IMHO any religion that teaches hate and teaches that their followers  should kill anyone who has a different beliefs than they do should not be allowed to teach on US soil.

Huhhh????? You think we should have thought police? Or should I say more thought police. Since we have hate crime laws that punish people more severely for what they may have been thinking when the crime was committed. Most religions justify murder within their teachings.  If you read the Bible, God kills people for not following his teachings all the time.  It's all how you interpret it.  

It should not be taught in schools to impressionable kids no matter what religion it is. It has nothing to do with thought police it has everything to do with the content of what's in the books being used to teach.

Quoted from Shadow

It should not be taught in schools to impressionable kids no matter what religion it is. It has nothing to do with thought police it has everything to do with the content of what's in the books being used to teach.

It's not being taught in public schools, it's being home schooled.  If you read the article, a judge is now stepping into a custody matter and ruling in the fathers favor, forcing the 10 year old girl to be public schooled because of the extreme rigidness of the mothers religious beliefs.  This judge believes that public school is actually better for the child.  

What's next, Catholic doctrine taught at catechism is going to be considered an extreme religious teaching?  

It's being taught in a Muslim School in Virginia that teaches it's students to hate anyone who doesn't believe the way they do. I was replying to what Sombody wrote about Muslims/Christians/pagans religion. The Muslim school is funded by Saudi Arabia and one of it's honor students tried to kill President Bush. That's the type of hate that shouldn't be allowed in this country.

I would love to hear the ACLU's stand on this

Quoted from Shadow

It's being taught in a Muslim School in Virginia that teaches it's students to hate anyone who doesn't believe the way they do. I was replying to what Sombody wrote about Muslims/Christians/pagans religion. The Muslim school is funded by Saudi Arabia and one of it's honor students tried to kill President Bush. That's the type of hate that shouldn't be allowed in this country.

The Catholic Religion teaches to hate those that perform abortions.  As a result, people have bombed abortion clinics because of those teachings.  Should Catholic Schools be closed down because of their "extreme" beliefs about abortion?  

Everything can be considered hate speech.  I would rather have the freedom to speak in opposition to the Muslim school in Virginia, than have the Government take away the Muslim schools legal right to speech.    

If you try to speak against any Muslim organization you will be labeled a racist. Hate speech is accepted as long as it's directed against Christians and conservatives.A school teaching someone to kill people of different religious beliefs is against our Constitution and the principles this country was founded on and shouldn't be allowed on US soil. I agree Cicero that we all should be able to speak freely as it is our right and the Muslim School has a right to teach it's religion just not indoctrinate it's students to kill non believers.

All must attend the government schools where they can be indoctrinated in socialism and forced to watch dear leader Obama? Whether they want to-or not. If a kid is absent he should be reported to the White House email hot line.

  There is no comparison between local Catholic schools and a militant Islamic hate academy established by Saudi Arabia in Northern Virginia. That should be closed by the FBI and land given to the Marines. In Catholic School we were taught to hate the sin but love the sinner. Must have out the day they taught about closing abortion clinics.

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:Must have out the day they taught about closing abortion clinics.

Closing them, people are bombing them in the name of God.  Didn't abortion doctor Dr. Tiller get murdered by a religious zealot anti-abortionist?  Are you suggesting the that the Federal Government should find out where this person was indoctrinated and close it down.  Ya better hope they don't track it back to his religious upbringing.  Who is responsible, the individual that commits the crime, or is it the person or institution doing the indoctrinating? Ask a gay person if they think Catholic teaching is hate teaching.  

I don't think you would want to open this can of worms of letting the current majority party in power determine "hate".  

"hate crime" is an oxymoron.......we dont know what hate is......just as we dont know what love is.......