Quoted from bumblethru

Was it with one of your school board members or teacher and their kid? Just a question.

That's my question.  Is the outrage with the serving alcohol to minors, or that a school board member hosted it for his son?  To tell you the truth, when I was in high school, I didn't even know a school board existed let alone who sat on it.

I wonder if any of the Casino's will login here and comment on Strocks article, or our comments, seeing as how they're all so proficient on the computer and facebook

Quoted from 147

A parent that gives "consent" to an illegal (by law) activity is responsible for the actions of that minor - and should be prosecuted.

Actually your statement makes about as much sense as giving your permission for your son/daughter to rob a store or murder someone.  You can't "give permission" for an illegal activity.

You have to take that up with Carl Strock, I'm just quoting his article.  It say's and I quote "I've learned that neither the city nor the county of Schenectady has what's known as a "social host" law, criminalizing the hosting of parties at which alcohol is served to minors as some neighboring communities do, but Schenectady County Attorney Chris Gardner assures me that state penal law already prohibits giving alcohol to minors, with the exception of one's own children"

So now Mr. Strock went this far to fact check what is legal and illegal, yet he didn't get the facts as to whether the people seen drinking in the photographs are of legal age, or if they were given permission by the parent.  

Quoted from CICERO

That's my question.  Is the outrage with the serving alcohol to minors, or that a school board member hosted it for his son?  

Both. IF and again I say IF, alcohol was being served to minors, it is still illegal. Whether we think it is ok or not. I mean these kids go off to college at 18 and drink to their hearts content. That's a no brainer.

However, there is a law that state where an adult can not serve minors alcohol. The fact that IF and again I say IF, this was the case, it is a bit disheartening to think it was a school board member and a teacher (his wife) that did the serving.

Hey...strock opened the can of worms.....let him continue this saga. I would be surprised if strock was careless enough to not dot his 'i's' and cross his 't's' before printing this. Time will tell.

Does everybody here really believe that Carl Strock was randomly browsing facebook looking for photos of the Schenectady Class of '09 graduates?  My guess is, somebody that had permission to view the Casino kids facebook page, downloaded them and forwarded them to Strock's e-mail.  The Gazette's too lazy to put in any investigation themselves.

http://www.alcoholpolicy.niaaa.nih.gov/stateprofiles//index.asp

Scroll down to the map - click on NY.  

I'm not sure where Gardner got that provision "with the exception of one's own children" - but I see nothing like that in State law.

Now, to clarify, you quoted a part of the article that isn't available to the general public that doesn't pay for a subscription - so I didn't see the part you posted.

Quoted from bumblethru

However, there is a law that state where an adult can not serve minors alcohol.

Strock quote from article-
"I've learned that neither the city nor the county of Schenectady has what's known as a "social host" law, criminalizing the hosting of parties at which alcohol is served to minors as some neighboring communities do, but Schenectady County Attorney Chris Gardner assures me that state penal law already prohibits giving alcohol to minors, with the exception of one's own children"

Quoted from CICERO

Does everybody here really believe that Carl Strock was randomly browsing facebook looking for photos of the Schenectady Class of '09 graduates?  My guess is, somebody that had permission to view the Casino kids facebook page, downloaded them and forwarded them to Strock's e-mail.  The Gazette's too lazy to put in any investigation themselves.

Here, I gotta agree with you.  He was tipped off by someone, but the Casino's pages weren't "private" - they were open to everyone.  You're right - investigative stories (aka reporting) is something the gazette is sorely lacking in - and has been for some time (with the exception of Kathleen's stories on the cops that nap during shifts).  If anyone can "dig" for a story, Strock would be my second guess as having that ability (over Kathleen) - it's possible, but not likely.

Quoted from CICERO

Strock quote from article-
, with the exception of one's own children"

I think Gardner was wrong on this one ... but time will tell

Quoted from righteous

well said MT.  Cicero is just trying to bait everyone.

Not baiting - questioning.  When you start seeing the mob mentality, ya need somebody to break the fervor.

I also believe that strock was tipped off. Gardner has been wrong before and could be this time too. Who knows? But if Gardner IS wrong in his advise to strock.....uh oh!!

However, I still question why the family would take the pics down on facebook. It was public to begin with. If the law was not being broken, why take it down? I would have left it up....'just because'.

If there is presently no law for this, and being that it's an election year for some...watch both parties scramble to propose one!
IMHO

Quoted from bumblethru

Was it with one of your school board members or teacher and their kid? Just a question.

  And another question what would you say about a teacher/school board member who hosted a underage drinking party {where underaged graduates were id by Carl} AND had the nerve to post the pictures on Facebook. They were proud of their keg stances! Great examples? Fire them. The DA needs to get out of reverse and prosecute this. Have they resigned in disgrace-YET?

  What bothers me the most is the usual double standard. Some unconnected lady in Duanesburg gets the book thrown at her-but a School board member/"teacher" gets nuthin and keep their positions. Parents that host-lose the most-except in Schenectady.

Quoted from benny salami

  And another question what would you say about a teacher/school board member who hosted a underage drinking party {where underaged graduates were id by Carl}

Carl writes that he identified 2 people in the photos that graduated SHS in June.  He follows that by saying neither of which were shown to be drinking.  

Come on Benny, put the pitch fork down for a second and breathe. I don't like the SHS school board either.  But I'm not jumping on board with Strocks shoot first ask questions later style of reporting.  It's reckless and an obvious attempt to smear somebody without corroborating evidence.  It's an obvious attempt at selling papers using a story that has a little traction.  

Of course they were just there playing chess? Not there to partake. ROTFLMAO!!

  And of course back in the day we also enjoyed a kegger or to. This was not done with the consent and participation of hosting parents let alone School Bored members and teachers. The drinking age was 18 not 21.

  The vast majority are calling for the immediate removal of these 2. Carl never digs up a story. So what? The blind pig found a big acorn. It is illegal to provide liquor to a minor. It is illegal to host a minor drinking party-even if some of age are also present.

  The Casino's and the rest of the motley crew on the worst School Bored in NYS don't get it. The gig is up. Everyone is watching you. The next school bored meeting is wednesday at 7pm Oneida MS. My pitchfork is ready.

Someone needs to lose there job.. even if there were NO underage drinking at the party, this is a HORRIBLE example to the kids who go to that high school.

Not the influence i want over my kids... get rid of them, get rid of them now.