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I get a charge out of how many schools don't honor vals and sals, they expand upon it to include 10 or 20 or more students. Scotia, Nisky and Mohon are in that list. It looks like Shaker basically honors every kid who graduates or something. They don't want to hurt feelings these days. Every kid gets a trophy too, I imagine.

Another thing that interested me is that there were only two kids who wanted to meet historical figures when asked "who the person you would most like to meet?" is. One fellow said Voltair and another said Alexander Hamilton (although I would have picked Washington or Franklin myself.)  Most wanted to meet Obama, since they are still young enough to believe that he will save the world. I imagine there were just as many young ones who thought the same of Neville Chamberland in 1939.

But the thing that tickled me the most was that Schenectady School Board president son Janisewski declared he wanted to meet Noam Chomski. That was very telling and made for quite a chuckle. He also said he admired his father most. Which is normal. Stalin's kids said the same I am absolutely sure. Poor kid. It's like a stain that will never wear off, once one is able to find the truth in life about what kind of chicanery these clods were engaged in. However, I am sure Chomski would approve of the way his dad employed common street thugs to institute his brand of left wing control over the entire government of the school system. So you have to give points for generational consistency.

Just some passing thoughts. I am sure people will be enraged that I had some commentary on this. But ask yourself: Is the tradition of honoring the top achievers important. Having a goal and rewarding excellence, does it matter? I think it does. I think that doing this honors tradition but more importantly is part of the long standing culture of American greatness where we WANT TO produce the best and brainiest so that we can compete in a more educated world. We need to stop worrying that some kids feelings will be hurt or that some will be disappointed that they didn't win. It is a little indulgent to think they can have that many "winners," is it not?


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Your kidding Right?  Typical Republican spin.  Punish, chastise, besmirch the son for his father's sins. What a disgrace you are.  If you are who I think you are you don't deserve to serve the public.  Are you a closet NAZI?
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they repubs need arresting
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Your kidding Right?  Typical Republican spin.  Punish, chastise, besmirch the son for his father's sins. What a disgrace you are.  If you are who I think you are you don't deserve to serve the public.  Are you a closet NAZI?


No, I am not, but unlike you I can read and comprehend. And I am not who you think I am by a long shot.

Why don't you pick up on my sympathy for the kid, who sees his horribly misled father as a hero? You see, "circle the wagons" mentality is prevalent everywhere. But in his choice of Chomski as someone he wants to meet (I can only assume he admires this cretin,) we see that the methods and ideas of the father may indeed rub off on the son. If your high school graduate wanted to have lunch with Benedict Arnold or the Rosenbergs, I think I would be alarmed at it too. Anti-American radicals who suckle the teet of freedom then so viciously offer a knee to the collective groin of mother, flag and country really aren't the kind of people my father encouraged me to associate or emulate. But then again my father left the Democrat party when he saw them playing footsies with the communists in the late 1960s.

I wanted to sit down with Eisenhower, Patton, Patrick Henry, Lincoln and Lee at that point of my life and I still do. Not Noam Chomski and Bertrand Russell.

Oh, but the left silences any discussion of anything that causes tension, so it's better to just call me a Nazi and leave it at that, no? Unlike most, I am not ready to cede control of what we can talk about and what we can't. Last I checked, your lord and savior, master and commander Hussein did not rename this country from "America" to whatever it is he plans on calling it.


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I agree that the 'top achievers' should be celebrated and rewarded. THAT'S REAL LIFE! It is raising the bar for excellence! It is a goal worth reaching for. It's a standard of excellence.

There always has and always will be kids, parents, business owners that will excel above others. THAT'S REAL LIFE!!
  
Not to mention that this is just one thing colleges look for when choosing students.


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Propaganda and the Public Mind
Conversations with Noam Chomsky
interviews by David Barsamian
South End Press, 2001, paper


p17
The Reagan administration was the most anti-market administration in modern American history. They virtually doubled barriers to imports in order to try to save U.S. industry. If they had opened up markets in the 1980s, superior Japanese products would have flooded the automotive industry, steel, and semiconductors. The main industrial base of the U.S. would have been wiped out. So the Reagan administration just barred imports. What's more, it poured public funds into industry.
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Anyone who has had any dealings with children knows that they're curious and creative. They want to explore things and figure out what's happening. A good bit of schooling is an effort to drive this out of them and to fit them into a mold, make them behave, stop thinking, not cause any trouble. It goes right from kindergarten up ... People are supposed to be obedient producers, do what they're told, and the rest of your life is supposed to be passive consuming. Don't think about things. Don't know about things ... Just do what you're told, pay attention to something else and maximize your consumption. That's the role of the public.
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When the world's only superpower [the US], which has essentially a monopoly of force, announces openly, We will use force and violence as we choose and if you don't like it get out of the way, there's a reason why that should frighten people.
p57
The U.S. achieved its major war ends. Its major concern was to ensure that Vietnam would not take off on a course of independent development that, horror of horrors, might even be a model for others, what is called a virus. That goal was achieved. When you've destroyed a country, it's not going to follow a course of independence. And it's certainly going to be no model for others.
... But the U.S. didn't achieve its highest aim. It didn't turn Vietnam into the Philippines, a colony. So that's called a loss. But in fact it achieved its major aim. And now we go home. The attitude has been quite astonishing. Jimmy Carter, for example, in what must count as one of the most incredible comments from any head of state anywhere, told a news conference that we owe no debt to Vietnam because "the destruction was mutual".
p163
States are not moral agents. They do not engage in the use of force for humanitarian ends, although that's always claimed.
p166
... Bertrand Russell, who by any standard is one of the leading intellectual figures of the twentieth century. He was one of the very few leading intellectuals who opposed World War I. He was vilified, and in fact ended up in jail, like his counterparts in Germany. From the 1950s, particularly in the United States, he was bitterly denounced and attacked as a crazy old man who was anti-American. Why? Because he was standing up for the principles that other intellectuals also accepted, but he was doing something about it.
For example, Bertrand Russell and Albert Einstein, to take another leading intellectual, essentially agreed on things like nuclear weapons. They thought nuclear weapons might well destroy the species. They signed similar statements, I think even joint statements. But then they reacted differently. Einstein went back to his office in the Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton and worked on unified field theories. Russell, on the other hand, went out in the streets. He was part of the demonstrations against nuclear weapons. He became quite active in opposing the Vietnam War early on, at a time when there was virtually no public opposition. He also tried to do something about that, including demonstrations and organizing a tribunal. So he was bitterly denounced.
On the other hand, Einstein was a saintly figure. They essentially had the same positions, but Einstein didn't rattle too many cages. That's pretty common. Russell was viciously attacked in the New York Times and by Secretary of State Dean Rusk and others in the 196Os. He wasn't counted as a public intellectual, just a crazy old man. There's a good book on this called Bertrand Russell's America.
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A standard technique of belief formation is to do something in your own interest and then to construct a framework in which that's the right thing to do.
p169
... if you want to be praised and have your books reviewed and told how brilliant you are and get great jobs, it's not advisable to be a dissident. It's not impossible, and in fact the system has enough looseness in it so that it can be done, but it is not easy. Both of us can name plenty of people who were simply cut out of the system because their work was too honest. That blocks access.

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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I never read this man's works......interesting.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Your opinion of Noam Chomsky aside.  I don't understand you invoking the School Board President, stating his last name, and then pitying his high school aged son on a public forum.  And it was done unprompted.  You started a thread to make a personal attack on somebody I assume you do not like.  And you disguised it as if it were an important topic of discussion, necessary of public debate.  Pretty low class.

I can only think of one local politician who publicly proclaims their admiration of George Washington......... Could this be a coincidence,,,,,,,, or a copycat??????


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Your opinion of Noam Chomsky aside.  I don't understand you invoking the School Board President, stating his last name, and then pitying his high school aged son on a public forum.  And it was done unprompted.  You started a thread to make a personal attack on somebody I assume you do not like.  And you disguised it as if it were an important topic of discussion, necessary of public debate.  Pretty low class.

I can only think of one local politician who publicly proclaims their admiration of George Washington......... Could this be a coincidence,,,,,,,, or a copycat??????



I learned my low class from you, Cicero. Do us a favor and head back to the boondocks.

Oh, and yeah. I do have a problem with that peculating bum snob who runs the schools in the city. And I have told the little frog just that, face to face (he who sends his daughter to go fight his battles to boot,) since IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WHAT IS GOING ON IN SCHENECTADY SCHOOLS.

And by the way 'Cic', the kid is a legal adult. (Yet, innocent of law breaking, unlike some of the other kids of notables and connected families in the area who can't keep out of trouble) Make your newspaper debut praising communists and your crummy school-board chief old-man, and yeah- I think you might be fair game for chat on a local political blog. Gee, I didn't question whether he earned the grades, or if the teachers were just afraid that their cars might get firebombed if they didn't grade A+ on all his reports. THAT might be a little extreme. But we all know there is no subjectivity in anything like grading or making sure the head of the syndicate's kid gets flying colors. We can just let the latent wanderings of the mind across the county do that. I won't.

Just remember High Class Cicero (Rwilson), some of us never had the "big family name" or the family business handed down to us. Some of us were nobodies, even social outsiders, who had to fight our way to success, with the local socialists and the bureaucrats, the insiders, the political bosses, union heads, and the well-connected families of Schenectady and Rotterdam decidedly NOT on our side. Some of us had to actually go out and do it for ourselves, work 18 hours a day, with no strings to pull anywhere, and no special favors to repay. We had good solid upbringing and values, and hard work, and every time somebody who "knows a lot of people" got in our way, we outworked and out-thought them; We like it that way. And those of us who did all this and got where we are- never have to apologize to bums like you. Or to anyone.

ps- only a pansy or a pinko doesn't admire George Washington, Cicero. Or someone who maybe hasn't fully immersed themselves into the American fabric and thinks they are still in Rome, running a bordello.




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No, I am not, but unlike you I can read and comprehend. And I am not who you think I am by a long shot.

Why don't you pick up on my sympathy for the kid, who sees his horribly misled father as a hero? You see, "circle the wagons" mentality is prevalent everywhere. But in his choice of Chomski as someone he wants to meet (I can only assume he admires this cretin,) we see that the methods and ideas of the father may indeed rub off on the son. If your high school graduate wanted to have lunch with Benedict Arnold or the Rosenbergs, I think I would be alarmed at it too. Anti-American radicals who suckle the teet of freedom then so viciously offer a knee to the collective groin of mother, flag and country really aren't the kind of people my father encouraged me to associate or emulate. But then again my father left the Democrat party when he saw them playing footsies with the communists in the late 1960s.

I wanted to sit down with Eisenhower, Patton, Patrick Henry, Lincoln and Lee at that point of my life and I still do. Not Noam Chomski and Bertrand Russell.

Oh, but the left silences any discussion of anything that causes tension, so it's better to just call me a Nazi and leave it at that, no? Unlike most, I am not ready to cede control of what we can talk about and what we can't. Last I checked, your lord and savior, master and commander Hussein did not rename this country from "America" to whatever it is he plans on calling it.



Your daddy left the Democratic Party because "who" was playing footsies with the
Dems?  I am quite sure your family connections had everything to do with your high and mighty snooty disposition.

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Because the communists and anti-Americans took control of the national democrat party, that is why. Only socialists and people like you didn't pick up on that. Rub the pasta sauce outta' your eyes PDQ, you aren't as entertaining as you normally are when you start flinging accusations about nazis and all that other crap. Otherwise, people enjoy your remarks about the town, even if they disagree with them sometimes.


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Because the communists and anti-Americans took control of the national democrat party.
I have to agree with GB on this one. Since the 60's & 70's the dem party has NOT been the same. They left their ideology and abandoned the 'real dems'. I hear that all the time from the 'real dems'. I also hear the same thing from the 'real reps' and the 'real cons'.

If each political party did what they were designed to do....REPRESENT THE PEOPLE!....there would be no need for organizations, for example, like ACORN.


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I am a nobody too.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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