For heavens sake why don't the legislatures stop passing frivolous laws about bottles and start cutting spending, eliminate pork from bills, eliminate patronage jobs, and reduce our taxes to a level that will stop residents and businesses from fleeing this state in droves.
Nickel deposits on bottled water begin Oct. 31 ALBANY — Nickel deposits will be imposed on bottled water in New York state starting Oct. 31. after U.S. District Judge Deborah Batts issued an order lifting an injunction on the deposits. All containers of water under a gallon will have a 5-cent refundable deposit, as beer and soda containers have for years. Laura Haight of the New York Public Interest Research Group said the deposit will result in more recycling and less litter. The Food Industry Alliance of New York State says it will mean consumers will pay $2 more for a 24-pack of water. Gov. David Paterson said after Friday’s judicial action that 80 percent of unclaimed deposits will go to the state as much-needed revenue. Bottlers got the injunction in June so they’d have more time to prepare.
For heavens sake why don't the legislatures stop passing frivolous laws about bottles and start cutting spending, eliminate pork from bills, eliminate patronage jobs, and reduce our taxes to a level that will stop residents and businesses from fleeing this state in droves.
Stop making so much sense. But Mary must be happy. This is more environmental correct manure.
Did you hear about your new NYS plates? Another pocket pick. Paterson, Gillenbrand, Schumer and Dinapoli can't go thrown out of office soon enough. Had enough-YET? Vote NNTP!
SCHENECTADY Expanded bottle bill in effect Customers, merchants give new bottle return law mixed reviews BY MICHAEL GOOT Gazette Reporter Reach Gazette reporter Michael Goot at 395-3105 or mgoot@dailygazette.net.
Merchants and customers are split about whether the new Bigger Better Bottle Law, which took effect Sunday, will cause more people to recycle their cans and bottles instead of throwing them in the trash. The law adds a 5-cent returnable deposit to water bottles and flavored water with no sugar. It was supposed to take effect in the spring but a federal injunction fi led by Nestle had blocked its implementation. In August, U.S. District Court Judge Deborah Batts lifted the injunction and set the Nov. 8 effective date. Merchants such as Kenny Desai, manager of Country Farms on Erie Boulevard, have been getting ready for the change. Desai said he let the supply of bottled water get low so he could make the switch to ones that have the 5-cent deposit label. “It’s a little bit of a hassle,” he said. Desai said he is essentially passing along the cost of the deposit to customers by raising the price of water. Peter Rose of Schenectady, a customer at A&R Grocery and Deli on Eastern Avenue, said he did not think the dime deposit would cause people to not buy the water or make them more likely to recycle the bottle. “It’s not a lot of financial incentive,” he said. Rafiq Abdo, owner of A&R Grocery, believes that the expanded bottle bill does not cover enough beverages. “They need to do all of them.” .................>>>>.................>>>>..................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01002&AppName=1
CAPITAL REGION Nickle deposit results in higher water price BY JESSICA HARDING Gazette Reporter Reach Gazette reporter Jessica Harding at 843-2830 or jharding@dailygazette.net.
Kathleen Koons lugged three shopping carts full of returnable bottles to the counter at Glenville Beverage on Wednesday morning. The Scotia resident had a few cases of glass beer bottles, some plastic 2-liter soda bottles and a grocery bag full of plastic water bottles. In November, the state enacted its expanded bottle bill, which put a nickel deposit on all bottles of water and other non-sugared drinks. Nearly two months later, consumers are already seeing an increase in all beverage prices and redemption centers are handling more plastic than before. Bottled water prices have increased anywhere from $1.50 to $2. At Minogue’s Beverage in Saratoga Springs, employee Jason Bateholts said a 24-pack of bottled water went from $2.99 to $4.99. However, the consumer would receive $1.20 by redeeming the plastic bottles. Andrew Crounse, owner of Glenville Beverage, said he has seen the same trend in his store. Koons said she purchases water a lot and likes to have the plastic bottles to take with her when she is out of the house. However, Koons said she doesn’t need bottled water and she frequently refills the bottles from the tap when she is home. Koons said she hasn’t seen an increase in bottled water prices yet, but she always looks for sales. A large increase in price would probably make her stop buying the bottled beverage. “I don’t really need it,” she said. It is hard to tell whether sales of bottled water are decreasing locally because of the new law, because most people aren’t purchasing cold beverages this time of year, Crounse said, but he thinks most of his customers feel the same as Koons. “I think it’s making people think about the purchase,” he said. “I mean you’re not going to put bottled water in your kids’ lunches anymore because you know you won’t get the bottle back.” The new law has not only increased the price of bottled water, but has also increased the cost of beer and soda because the beverage companies are no longer seeing 100 percent of the unclaimed redemptions. Under the new law, distributors receive 20 percent of the unclaimed redemptions and the state receives 80 percent. Coca-Cola increased the cost of all its containers across the board by 5 cents, Crounse said. Major beer distributors like Budweiser and Coors also used the opportunity to increase their prices. “They usually do it every year in February, but they did it this year in September,” Crounse said. Increased beer prices don’t bother Jim Coburn of Scotia, though. “I look at it as a cost of doing business,” he said while making his purchases of beer and soda Wednesday. “It’s cheaper than going out and safer, too.” A positive aspect of the expanded state bottle bill is the potential for less plastic container litter. Both Minogue’s and Glenville Beverage have had to increase the number of redemption bins to accommodate the new containers, which are sorted by distributor. ..................>>>>.................>>>>...................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00800&AppName=1
Expanded bottle bill nets $120M The Business Review - by Adam Sichko Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 3:14pm EDT - Last Modified: Monday, November 1, 2010, 3:55pm EDT
It’s been a year since the state expanded its bottle recycling law, and environmentalists have praised the early results. Businesses, though, remain divided on whether the expanded laws caused sales to go flat. Oct. 31 marked the one-year anniversary of when the more expansive “Bottle Bill” took full effect. The expansion applied the same 5-cent-per-bottle deposit on water that consumers already paid on beverages such as beer and carbonated soft drinks (consumers can reclaim the money if they recycle the empty containers at certain stores). In addition, beverage distributors were required to return 80 percent of unclaimed nickel deposits to the state. Distributors used to keep all unclaimed deposits—which topped $90 million in recent years. State legislators also boosted fees that distributors pay redemption centers to take empty bottles, from 2 cents to 3.5 cents per container. The results: The state made $120 million of revenue off the new requirements in its first year, beating a budget target by a few million dollars....................>>>>..........................>>>>...................http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/news/2010/11/01/expanded-bottle-bill-nets-120m.html
In addition, beverage distributors were required to return 80 percent of unclaimed nickel deposits to the state. Distributors used to keep all unclaimed deposits—which topped $90 million in recent years.
And the private businesses took a loss in this process too. No wonder why people are leaving NYS in record numbers!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
not to mention the 'extra income' for those with shopping carts....what ever.......hey, if it works....the purpose was not to NET anything......it was for cleaning up.....LIARS/CHEATS......GANGSTAS......
NOW, we can budget for the shake-down results.....a whole line item just for bottles/cans hell, just leave 'em all over it really doesn't F'EN matter.......so, here's the deal....buy a 12pack(of whatever you like) drink it and then recycle it in the the freakin' bin YOU ALREADY PAY FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and that is taxed too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TWICE AS NICE WITHOUT THE LUBE
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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
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Stop making so much sense. But Mary must be happy. This is more environmental correct manure. 
