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SCHENECTADY
Gun buyback effort expanded

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    Charlie Muller is hoping to spread his work around the Capital Region.
    The pastor of Albany’s Victory Christian Church helped remove 170 guns from the city streets with his ministry’s gun buyback program. Now he’s hoping to expand this effort to some of Schenectady’s most troubled neighborhoods.
    Muller’s church has $10,000 that will be dedicated to buying back guns from Schenectady’s Hamilton Hill this spring. He said the money started with a $5,000 donation that was given to his church late last year for the purpose of spreading the program to some of the Schenectady’s rough-andtumble neighborhoods.
    “We’re seeing a difference in [Albany’s] West Hill area,” he said.
    In addition to working with Schenectady’s inner-city churches, such as the Koinonia Christian Ministries, Muller intends to contact the county district attorney’s office to see if they can help promote the effort. He said the Albany County DA’s office was instrumental in advertising Victory Christian’s buyback program and certainly aided its success.
    Muller is also hoping to spur legislative change to reduce gun violence in the Capital Region. He’s preparing a law he plans to propose to the Albany County Legislature to increase the penalties for carrying an unloaded illegal handgun.
    “We need to change the gun laws where there’s gun violence,” he said.
    Muller’s efforts come as he and other church leaders plan a return of the Winning Our World International Festival, which came to both Albany and Schenectady last summer. In Schenectady, the event drew hundreds of residents to Jerry Burrell Park for an afternoon of music and activities.
    Schenectady and Albany were................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....amp;EntityId=Ar01403
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Yes, let's use our limited resources to buy back broken old junk handguns, not to prosecute crimes. The DA and police administration actually hold press conferences and wastes time (but gets Gazette publicity) engaging in this utter nonsense.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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So, GrahamCracker....let me get this right.  The MINIMAL amount of money that is being spent on buying back guns from the most dangerous areas of Schenectady is a bad thing?
A gun is a gun is a gun.  A "broken" gun can be used to committ a crime just as well as a functioning one, think before you post.  Someday it could be one of those "broken" or "junk" hand
guns that gets stuck in someones face while getting robbed.  Of course your arrogant, elitist attitude will protect you from any sort of crime.
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The only problem with the program is that the guns that pose the biggest threat aren't the ones being turned in. What person in their right mind would turn in a perfectly good mac 10 for $50 when it could be sold on the street for a few hundred bucks. I do agree that any illegal gun turned in is a gun that is off the street and that may save a life.
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Schenectady should start the "stolen car" buy back program, or the "crack" buyback program.  What other "buyback" programs should Schenectady have??  

The success and direct impact that these buyback program have are irrefutable.


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Although it sounds good in theory....this is kind of like the 'text message law'. It really will not stop crime. From what I read and hear in the media, crime is rampant and shootings are increasing. Shadow is correct, that these are not the guns that will pose the greatest threat to society. IMHO



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So, GrahamCracker....let me get this right.  The MINIMAL amount of money that is being spent on buying back guns from the most dangerous areas of Schenectady is a bad thing?
A gun is a gun is a gun.  A "broken" gun can be used to committ a crime just as well as a functioning one, think before you post.  Someday it could be one of those "broken" or "junk" hand
guns that gets stuck in someones face while getting robbed.  Of course your arrogant, elitist attitude will protect you from any sort of crime.


No, Samuel Colt and lot of practice will protect me. Not you, not the police, not the DA, not the gun buyback, not Jesus, not the reverend, and certainly not any politicians. It is my own responsibility to be with myself 24/7 and none of the above can/will or have shown the inclination (in the case of Jesus) to change the free will of man who is intent on harming me or my family with either a gun, a knife, a flamethrower, a homemade bomb, a sharpened stick, an axe or even a broken down revolver that has rusted through in granny's closet.

Now if you want to take away police man power, take away prosecutorial manpower, take the limited funds that could actually do someone some good somewhere in changing the lives of young people, and squander it on Walmart giftcards so that folks can buy Chinese made junk, instead of diligently policing, prosecuting and jailing murderous thugs who have the intent to harm and kill, be my guest. I think you being the leftwing wingnut that you are, think it is the inanimate object that is responsible for the crime. But guns don't think, or have free will, or decide to kill, and they are not inherently evil whatsoever. Mine are there to protect me in the rare and unlikely instance someone wants to do harm to me and my family. You can chose to be an easy mark, but I am not responsible for you and your kids and wife. As much as I am not responsible for what some crack fiend will be doing late on a Saturday night to get their drugs. All we can do is arms ourselves against it.



"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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No, Samuel Colt and lot of practice will protect me. Not you, not the police, not the DA, not the gun buyback, not Jesus, not the reverend, and certainly not any politicians. It is my own responsibility to be with myself 24/7 and none of the above can/will or have shown the inclination (in the case of Jesus) to change the free will of man who is intent on harming me or my family with either a gun, a knife, a flamethrower, a homemade bomb, a sharpened stick, an axe or even a broken down revolver that has rusted through in granny's closet.

Now if you want to take away police man power, take away prosecutorial manpower, take the limited funds that could actually do someone some good somewhere in changing the lives of young people, and squander it on Walmart giftcards so that folks can buy Chinese made junk, instead of diligently policing, prosecuting and jailing murderous thugs who have the intent to harm and kill, be my guest. I think you being the leftwing wingnut that you are, think it is the inanimate object that is responsible for the crime. But guns don't think, or have free will, or decide to kill, and they are not inherently evil whatsoever. Mine are there to protect me in the rare and unlikely instance someone wants to do harm to me and my family. You can chose to be an easy mark, but I am not responsible for you and your kids and wife. As much as I am not responsible for what some crack fiend will be doing late on a Saturday night to get their drugs. All we can do is arms ourselves against it.


BRAVO GB. I couldn't have said it better myself!!!! Mr. Christopher Porco didn't use a gun. An axe did the trick for him. Should we buy back or ban axe's now? Mr. Porco's 'intent' was to kill/murder. Period. Perhaps he would have used a gun if he had access to one, but the axe worked out just fine for him. You can't change the nature of the beast.

Clean up the city. Stop being the welfare capital of the world. Get more 'honest' pollice on the streets. And throw their as**s in jail for a very long time. Shooting/killing are just the end result of a motive, be it drugs, money, power or revenge. You can't change the nature of the beast...really!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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and yes he is crazy like most repubs and I think you should have tp fill out some papers to get axes and that there too and prove you work in tree cutting and that or have to register your name. People cant be having dangerous weapons around to hurt the others and especially people who want to go against the government should not have th e guns over here
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I heard sticks and stones put together will do the trick too......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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