NY county bans vehicle idling more than 3 minutes Posted By: Bob Brenzing 6 days ago WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. (AP) -- It will soon be against the law to leave a parked car running for more than three minutes in a suburban New York county.
The Westchester County Legislature has unanimously passed a bill meant to improve air quality and reduce greenhouse gases.
If signed as expected by County Executive Andrew Spano, the law would impose up to a $250 fine for idling. Fire, police and other vehicles responding to an emergency would be exempt. ..........http://www.wzzm13.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=101330&catid=82
You have got to be kidding? Winter is coming and people start their cars to warm them up. What about automatic car starters? What about school buses? Ambulances? Ridiculous!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
What about idling in the Burger King drive-thru? The wait HAS to be more than 3 minutes!!!
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
If they really want to "improve air quality and reduce greenhouse gases" - they'll look at the ridiculous number of stop signs and traffic lights - and the fuel they waste.
For example, Laura Ave between the city and Rotterdam. It stretches from Guilderland Ave to Parkwood (?) ... there's got to be 8-10 four way stop signs on that street - and every block to the right and left of it. The same in MANY other areas of the town/city.
Come up Helderberg Ave from the city ... get to the corner of Helderberg/Curry, turning left. That light is ridiculously long. Come around by Hess going toward Altamont, you're guaranteed to get that light. Go a few hundred more feet, and you are just about guaranteed to get the one at Tower & Altamont - same with the light by Wendy's, Hannaford and @ Chrisler. Six traffic lights within what, a mile?
well there you are again did you know child - hood asma is at an all time HIGH? And you repubs want to repeal the laws to make the air cleaner this shows how extreme and terrible you people are and you have no love in your hearts for the kids over here. I have choice words but wont use them here but your hate is sickening
well there you are again did you know child - hood asma is at an all time HIGH? And you repubs want to repeal the laws to make the air cleaner this shows how extreme and terrible you people are and you have no love in your hearts for the kids over here. I have choice words but wont use them here but your hate is sickening
High due to lack of farming for yourself and country air.....stay inside with your computer Sal,,,,it's safer......
here's an idea---put all those auto workers that will soon be out of a job to work fixing the exhaust problems on the old cars..... have the unions retrain and re-exhaust......no more union, they will then become their own company with workers.......they are already poised to take over the management of the autoworkers health insurance in 2010......here's another shaky step.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
So, does this mean that each and every driver in the Clinton's caravan will get a ticket if the helicopter is 3 minutes late getting in when she comes home from her important job in D.C.??? Or if Bill is late getting back from one of his business meetings or something? Or is this like the story that was in the TU today regarding tickets that don't get handed out because of people who are who they are?
Ghost tickets never saw City Hall Retrieving data on no-fine tickets difficult, Albany police spokesman says
By BRENDAN J. LYONS, Senior writer First published in print: Wednesday, November 19, 2008
ALBANY The ''ghost'' parking tickets issued for years by Albany's parking enforcement officers were not forwarded to City Hall for processing. Retrieving data on how many were issued, and to whom, is proving difficult, police officials said.
The controversy over the longstanding but secretive practice of issuing ''no-fine'' tickets to select private vehicles has stoked calls for an investigation by city leaders. But a police spokesman said questions raised this week by Common Council members may be difficult to answer, including how many of the tickets were issued, why and to whom.
''To be able to extract the data would be very labor intensive because it has to be broken down on a day-by-day basis by each individual public service officer,'' said Detective James Miller, a department spokesman. ''We're looking at ways of extracting the information in a more efficient manner.''
The city's parking enforcement ticketing is handled primarily by 15 public service officers and five traffic safety aides. They are employed by the police department and work for the Traffic Safety Division, which is overseen by a police commander.
It's unclear how the department was able to extract the no-fine tickets from real tickets before they were digitally forwarded to the city Parking Violations Bureau, which is part of the Treasurer's Office.
The ghost tickets were not forwarded to City Hall ''because they were not subject to monetary collections,'' Miller said.
The city issues thousands of parking tickets annually, collecting more than $2.3 million in fines last year.
Chief James W. Tuffey, who is traveling and not available for comment this week, said in an interview Friday he had no knowledge of the department's practice of issuing no-fine or ghost tickets to hundreds of private vehicles that had a small windshield sticker resembling a bull's-eye. The numbered stickers were issued by the city police officers union. Tuffey said the stickers were not sanctioned by the department and there was no written policy for public service officers not to issue real tickets to vehicles with the stickers.
Still, several Common Council members, who said they learned about the issue in a Times Union report, questioned how a years-long and systemic practice by city parking enforcement officers was possible without the knowledge of the department's top brass. Also, there has been no indication that anyone will face discipline as a result.
''Since tickets are computer generated, a specific action had to be incorporated into the process to make this possible,'' Common Council President Shawn Morris wrote in a letter to fellow council members on Saturday. Morris and Council President Pro Tempore Richard S. Conti both have called for an investigation.
Mayor Jerry Jennings on Monday night ordered the practice of issuing ghost tickets immediately suspended.
On Tuesday, he said he had no knowledge that ghost tickets were being issued to vehicles that carried the police union's bull's-eye stickers.
''It's inappropriate if there's been this blue-dot system or whatever it is,'' Jennings said. ''As far as I'm concerned it should be stopped. ...It's not going to go on and I'm not going to tolerate it.''
Jennings and Tuffey both said that in response to the controversy the police department will develop a new system of issuing temporary placards for vehicles that are on official duties while parked around the city. It could be expanded for distribution to state and other law enforcement agencies as needed, the mayor said. ''If people want to get into that system they have to go through the same protocols as everyone else and it would be controlled by the city,'' Jennings said.
The Times Union's initial report uncovered information that the city's ticket writers, including police officers, had issued no-fine tickets to the private vehicles of police officers, their spouses, friends and others, including retired officers and civilian employees. Two officers familiar with the practice said bar owners and others with police connections also had received the bull's-eye stickers.
Recipients of the ghost tickets could simply discard them without penalty.
The handheld ticketing computers used by the parking officers also were pre-programmed to recognize an untold number of select license plates that would be issued no-fine tickets. Parking enforcement officers also had the ability to punch in a special code to issue a no-fine ticket in instances where they spotted a special dashboard placard, or an officer's business card left on the dashboard, or, for the estimated hundreds of bull's-eye stickers distributed by the union, according to people familiar with the matter.
Morris said she never heard of no-fine tickets before reading about it in the newspaper. She questioned how parking enforcement officers were trained on the practice and then instructed to issue no-fine tickets to vehicles, including those with bull's-eye stickers.
Brendan J. Lyons can be reached at 454-5547 or by e-mail at blyons@timesunion.com.
On Tuesday, he said he had no knowledge that ghost tickets were being issued to vehicles that carried the police union's bull's-eye stickers.
''It's inappropriate if there's been this blue-dot system or whatever it is,'' Jennings said. ''As far as I'm concerned it should be stopped. ...It's not going to go on and I'm not going to tolerate it.''
what rock has he been living under.....I was 16years old and new about this practice.....duh.....and the public is all very very aware of it too.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
I agree senders. This practice has been going on for decades.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
It was especially bad when the South Mall was being built, if you were tipping the beat cops every week you could park with no fear of getting a ticket but if your plate number wasn't in the beat cops book you got a $25 ticket and all the cars around you didn't get ticketed. The South Mall was built a long long time ago.
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The wait HAS to be more than 3 minutes!!!
