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GrahamBonnet----I have one question----what the heck is a priest for then??? If a priest is to shepherd/lead no different than any of our elected officials
why bother going to church? especially since you could be an Elk/Hibernian etc,,,or even stay home and you be 'the priest' there???

cause, I gotta tell ya....those folks in Iraq are questioning that same thought....when the bomb hits the wedding party.....same in Israel, Darfur, North
Korea etc......just because the leader is a jerk I get beat up......

So why vote????

PS sorry, it was more like a train of thought question......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Don't beat the messenger, this is just an email going around....................




WHITE GUILT IS DEAD
By Tom Adkins

Look at my fellow conservatives! There they go, glumly shuffling along,
depressed by the election aftermath. Not me. I'm virtually euphoric.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not thrilled with America's flirtation with neo-socialism.
But there's a massive silver lining in those magical clouds that lofted
Barak Obama to the Presidency. For today, without a shred of intellectually
legitimate opposition, I can loudly proclaim to America:

The Era of White Guilt is over.

This seemingly impossible event occurred because the vast majority of white
Americans didn't give a fluff about skin color, and enthusiastically pulled
the voting lever for a black man. Not just any black man, but a very liberal
black man who spent his early career race-hustling banks, praying in a
racist church for 20 years, and actively worked with America-hating domestic
terrorists. Wow! Some resume! Yet they made Barak Obama their leader.
Therefore, as of Nov 4th, 2008, white guilt is dead.

For over a century, the millstone of white guilt hung around our necks,
retribution for slave-owning predecessors. In the 60s, American liberals
began yanking that millstone while sticking a fork in the eye of black
Americans, exacerbating the racial divide to extort a socialist solution.
But if a black man can become President, exactly what significant barrier is
left? The election of Barak Obama absolutely destroys the entire validation
of liberal white guilt. The dragon is hereby slain.


So today, I'm feeling a little "uppity," if you will. From this
day
forward, my tolerance level for having my skin color hustled is now exactly
ZERO. And it's time to clean house. No more Reverend Wright's "God
Damn
America ," Al Sharpton's Church of Perpetual Victimization, or Jesse
Jackson's rainbow racism. Cornell West? You're a fraud. Go home. All
those
"black studies" programs that taught kids to hate whitey?
You must now thank
Whitey. And I want that on the final.


Congressional Black Caucus? Irrelevant. Maxine Waters? Shut up. ACORN?
Outlawed. Black Panthers? Go home and pet your kitty. Black separatists?
Find another nation that offers better dreams. Go ahead. I'm waiting.


Gangsta rappers? Start praising America. Begin with the Pledge of
Allegiance. And please...no more ebonics. Speak English, and who knows where
you might end up? Oh, yeah...pull up your pants. Your underwear is showing.
You look stupid.

To those Eurosnots who forged entire careers hating America? I'm still
waiting for the first black French President.

And let me offer an equal opportunity whupping. I've always despised lazy
white people. Now, I can talk smack about lazy black people. You're poor
because you quit school, did drugs, had three kids with hree different
fathers, and refuse to work. So when you plop your Colt 45-swilling, Oprah
watchin' butt on the couch and complain "Da Man is keepin' me
down," allow
me to inform you: Da Man is now black. You have no excuses.

No more quotas. No more handouts. No more stealing my money because
someone's great-great-great-great grandparents suffered actual pain and
misery at the hands of people I have no relation to, and personally revile.

It's time to toss that massive, obsolete race-hustle machine upon the heap
of the other stupid 60s ideas. Drag it over there, by wife swapping, next to
dope-smoking. Plenty of room right between free love and cop-killing.
Careful...don't trip on streaking.  There ya go, don't be gentle. Just
dump
it. Wash your hands. It's filthy.

In fact, Obama's ascension created a gargantuan irony.

How can you sell class envy and American unfairness when you and your black
wife went to Ivy League schools, got high-paying jobs, became millionaires,
bought a mansion, and got elected President? How unfair is that??? Now, like
a delicious O'Henry tale, Obama's spread-the-wealth campaign rendered
itself
moot by it's own victory!  Amer
ica is officially a meritocracy. Obama's
election has validated American conservatism!

So, listen carefully...Wham!!!

That's the sound of my foot kicking the door shut on the era of white
guilt. The rites have been muttered, the carcass lowered, dirt shoveled, and
tombstone erected. White guilt is dead and buried.

However, despite my glee, there's apparently one small, rabid bastion of
American racism remaining. Black Americans voted 96% for Barak Obama. Hmmm.
In a color-blind world, shouldn't that be 50-50?

Tonight, every black person should ask forgiveness for their apparent
racism and prejudice towards white people. Maybe it's time to start
spreading the guilt around.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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That's a fact......or a bunch of 'facts'......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Election of black man is confounding to our enemies

BY GREGORY RODRIGUEZ Los Angeles Times

Gregory Rodriguez, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times’ opinion pages, is director of the California Fellows Program at the New America Foundation.

    Al-Qaida’s No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri made a lame attempt to invalidate the idea that Barack Obama’s victory is a symbol of American racial progress. It’s not a surprise really. The United States’ enemies long have used racial inequality as the stick with which to beat us. And unfortunately, it’s a stick that we’ve handed them over and over again. Domestic discrimination has been at odds with our national mission of democratizing the world.
    But al-Zawahri’s message suggests the ascendance of a black man to the presidency has flummoxed and confused al-Qaida’s strategists. For their purposes, they need the U.S. to be perceived as a racist nation, and one way to turn Obama’s victory upside down is to call him a “house Negro,” a term Malcolm X used to criticize successful blacks whom he accused of doing the bidding of white folks, of not really being black.
    For more than a century, the U.S. has sought to prove the superiority of its system by highlighting its fair treatment of its minorities. In 1906, when President Theodore Roosevelt made Oscar Straus the first Jew ever to serve in a Cabinet, he told his new secretary of Labor and Commerce that he wanted “to show Russia and some other countries what we think of Jews in this country.”
PREJUDICE UN-AMERICAN
    During World War II, many Americans came to believe that racism was at odds with the principles of our democracy. The struggle against Nazism inspired the belief that prejudice was un-American. For blacks, the war effort gave them hope for a “double V,” a victory abroad against fascism and stateside against racism.
    During the Cold War, the U.S. government became increasingly sensitive to foreign media coverage about domestic discrimination. After all, freedom was our trump card over the communists. In 1946, then-Acting Secretary of State Dean Acheson wrote that “the existence of discrimination against minority groups in this country has an adverse effect upon our relations with other counties. We are reminded over and over by some foreign newspapers and spokesmen that our treatment of various minorities leaves much to be desired. . . . Frequently we find it next to impossible to formulate a satisfactory answer to our critics.”
    A decade later, the Justice Department’s amicus brief in the case of Brown vs. Board of Education stated clearly that “the United States is trying to prove to the people of the world, of every nationality, race and color, that a free democracy is the most civilized and most secure form of government yet devised by man.”
    Of course, despite its international public-relations efforts, for the longest time the U.S. actually was practicing and exporting notions of white supremacy, racial purity and segregation. As the country stretched itself into an empire, it took its racial prejudice and Jim Crow practices with it. Anthropologist Virginia Dominguez has written that before Americans arrived in Hawaii, the indigenous population simply did not view race and racial distinctions in the way the American government would later insist they should.
CLOSER TO OUR IDEALS
    Our foreign-affairs gurus’ theories were right, of course, even if we didn’t fulfill them. The election of a black man to the presidency does tell the world that the U.S. is closer to fulfilling the ideals it so zealously champions around the globe. The better we are at creating equality at home, the more likely we are to confound our enemies. But the racial symbolism of Obama might take us even further than gloating about “treating our minorities better than you treat yours.” That’s because the man who ran as a black candidate may govern as a racially mixed president. On his first day as president-elect, Obama playfully referred to himself as a “mutt” (he was talking about choosing a dog for his daughters), which is a nicer way to say “mongrel.” If the new president keeps on in that vein, if he chooses to highlight his mixed background, he could truly vanquish our old ideas of racial purity and segregation. ...........................................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....amp;EntityId=Ar04500
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That's a fact......or a bunch of 'facts'......


Hardly-  I working in Grantville PA ( near Hershy )  Working with people that actually live here-

" On any Friday night in the summertime you can find a KKK meeting in a cornfield somewhere "

THATS A FACT-



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Hardly-  I working in Grantville PA ( near Hershy )  Working with people that actually live here-

" On any Friday night in the summertime you can find a KKK meeting in a cornfield somewhere "

THATS A FACT-




I guess I should have clarified myself as a non-racist and one who thinks folks should stand on their own.....as for the KKK----
they are just a bunch of ignorant "facts".......
are there folks who dislike me for my 'race',sex,ethnicity etc.? OF COURSE.......are they organized like the KKK.....yup......

fact: there always needs to be a common "enemy/outcast" to put folks on 'the same page'.......politicians learn this lesson WELL......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Writer's wrong to label right-wing radio hate

First published in print: Monday, December 1, 2008

I am writing in reference to K.C. Halloran's article on right-wing radio (Nov. 23). It started off innocently enough, with him admitting that he liked it, despite being a liberal. However, before I was halfway through, he had called right-wing radio, "hate radio," "vicious," "snarling" and "jeering." Surely Mr. Halloran would have some hard evidence to back this up?
     
Well, no. To attack Paul Vandenburgh, he seemingly defended the hanging effigy of Sarah Palin, since such atrocities actually happened half a century ago. And somehow he takes it personally as a person of Irish descent when Sean Hannity criticizes Obama (as if a liberal commentator had never criticized a Republican leader). Then, to prove racism is still strong in America, any state that supported McCain is racist. I suppose that 4.6 million Californians and 2.6 million New Yorkers are also racist, despite Obama winning these states? Could it have anything to do with believing that he is not the best candidate? Instead of rejoicing that we have a new leader and a new beginning, Mr. Halloran would rather condemn those who did not vote for Obama as racists from the 1960s.

I would be happy to sit down with Mr. Halloran (and his daughter, a contributor to the article) and listen to any of the shows that he mentioned so that he can point out other (any?) examples of hate and racism.

Chuck Paravella
Troy


..............http://timesunion.com/AspStori.....p;newsdate=12/1/2008
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I didn't vote for Barack Obama because he is too liberal. The color of his skin did not have anything to do with my vote. Obama was and is part of the corrupt Chicago Political Machine. If he truly was an agent of change he would have started out by cleaning up the political corruption in Chicago. He didn't and I don't expect that he'll offer anything new for America. If you take the time to research his short political career you'll see that all of his associations and his political cronies are extremely anti American liberals. You know the hippies who are stuck in the 70's and haven't grown up yet.
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I didn't vote for Barack Obama because he is too liberal. The color of his skin did not have anything to do with my vote. Obama was and is part of the corrupt Chicago Political Machine. If he truly was an agent of change he would have started out by cleaning up the political corruption in Chicago. He didn't and I don't expect that he'll offer anything new for America. If you take the time to research his short political career you'll see that all of his associations and his political cronies are extremely anti American liberals. You know the hippies who are stuck in the 70's and haven't grown up yet.
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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I didn't vote for Barack Obama because he is too liberal. The color of his skin did not have anything to do with my vote. Obama was and is part of the corrupt Chicago Political Machine. If he truly was an agent of change he would have started out by cleaning up the political corruption in Chicago. He didn't and I don't expect that he'll offer anything new for America. If you take the time to research his short political career you'll see that all of his associations and his political cronies are extremely anti American liberals. You know the hippies who are stuck in the 70's and haven't grown up yet.


Well said!!  I did not vote against Obama, I voted for McCain.  Don't people realize if they voted for Obama because of his skin color that is racism too?  I need to hang my hat on the hope he was elected by intelligent people who made a choice concerning his policies.  They may not be the policies I agree with, but thats ok.   Of course, if that were the case we would probably not be having this discussion.

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Rene, if the questions asked by the media to Obama supporters at the exit polls is any indication of their intelligence we're in trouble.
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Rene, if the questions asked by the media to Obama supporters at the exit polls is any indication of their intelligence we're in trouble.


The obvious lack of balance in that 'exit poll' is that the same questions were not posed to McCain supporters, and if you picked the right voting district, you'd not be troubled by having to encounter any.  In statistics, that poll is known as a 'hack.'  The data gathering method is completely bogus, thus invalidating the poll.  What's really interesting is how many see it as pure gospel. It created 'fact.'
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They were asked to do another poll of McCain supporters and the polsters turned it down. I would have liked to see the difference between them as well. I just found it interesting that the people polled knew next to nothing about their candidate. Ockam, you just didn't like the answers that they gave and that's why you try to discredit anything that puts Obama's supporters in a bad light. It wasn't done by the Repubs but was done by a news group. My own niece knew nothing about Obama but was voting for him because she liked the way he talked and he was younger than McCain, those are good reasons,not.
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