In just two years.  (Remember the election in 2006?)
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over two years ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $4.00 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;

6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President.  He has to work with what's handed to him.


Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html


Taxes under Clinton 1999                        Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400             Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000          Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250           Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800        Married making 60K- tax $9,00 0
Married making 75K - tax $21,000         Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,75 0        Married making 125K - tax $31,250



Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates


It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama is elected, he says he will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie 'The Sting' with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.



You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much?
Read this:

Boy am I confused.  I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the  Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.


I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.


I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again
until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them.  I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1.      $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.    
Verify at:  http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.      $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at:http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3.      $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at:  http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4.     $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at:  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt..0.html

5.     $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01..html

6.  $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7.  30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at:  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8.  $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premiumcnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9.  $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at:  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01 /ldt.01..html

10.  The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens.  In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11.  During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.  Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report:  http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12.  The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of  between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
Verify at:  http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13.  In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14.  'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.'
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals


The total cost is a whopping $3383 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid?

Obama wants to make the people who are here illegally citizens, that's one change I can do without.

The illegal immigration issue exploded during Bush in which he didn't do too much to stop or prevent it. Our boarders were still left pretty much wide open. What exactly did Bush do in his 8 years of office about the illegal immigration issue?

And as far as 'change'....I find it quite humerous to hear Obama campaign with the slogan of 'change', when he in fact picked a running mate that has been doing the 'same old' for decades. I don't particulary think 'Biden' falls into the 'change' catagory. And what is even funnier, is that Sarah Palin is about as close to 'change' out of all 4 of them. Go figure!

Quoted from bumblethru

The illegal immigration issue exploded during Bush in which he didn't do too much to stop or prevent it. Our boarders were still left pretty much wide open. What exactly did Bush do in his 8 years of office about the illegal immigration issue?

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President.  He has to work with what's handed to him.

When Congress found out how 75% of the people felt and saw how their view were totally opposite of the people and all the lost votes if they continued to push for the amnesty bill the Congress just let the issue die hoping that it will be forgotten. Bush and McCain were for the amnesty bill and that's where I have a problem with McCain's  views, too liberal.

Responding to the question posed by this thread - "It would certainly appear that some of us are."

- Look at it another way

- My food billis lower because of their labor
- My house is cheaper because it was built with slave labor
- They take jobs others wont
- Higher profits for those that hire them
- They set a standard as hard workers willing to work
- They help replace the dwindling white population
- They give you someone to look down on - even if your a complete loser

Or you can look at it another way they're bankrupting the country.

Quoted from Shadow

Or you can look at it another way they're bankrupting the country.

Hardly-   the overspending white guy is doing that all on his own-  remember PERSONAL ACCOUTABILITY- Man up !

They are far from bankrupting our country....blame Mr.Walmart/Mr.Dollar store/Mr.Thrift etc.......working in a nursing home I meet alot of folks and hear
alot of stories and see alot of pictures....one thing I have see and heard is about piece work.....you make it you get paid...you dont make it you
dont get paid.....how many of us would have our kids pay for their college through college via piece work?????

What is the most common saying?---I work this hard so you dont have to......or....go to college you dont want to have to do this kind of work......

so.....here we are now in the present future.......

I dont think we are that stupid but, we are that stiff necked and obtuse......

So because my great grandparents came to this country alone and without any family or friends, only to give their kids, grandkids, greatgrandkids a better life, I should be called 'stiff necked'? I take offense to that. I am the 4th generation from legal immigrants. I work hard, spend money and save money and contribute to my church and other benefits. I take no hand outs.

So I am grateful everyday to my great grandparents for sacrificing their life to give me the life I have now. And for that I am thankful!

It has nothing to do with your immigrant family but everything to do with how we have evolved over generations to the "you dont do that kind of work"..

Speak for yourself Senders, I've dug holes for a living when I first started working.

It is bemusing to examine some facts presented here.

One item of interest is the blaming of the current congress for all that is evil and wrong with the nation.  Take the issue of this thread.  Congress is at fault!  However, from January 2001 through January 2007 both houses of congress were under GOP control, and in mid 2005 even the supreme court, with the appointment of Roberts, was supposedly swung into the conservative camp, giving all three branches of government the same general heading.  Yet during that time illegal immigration continued and rose, so with a nearly bullet proof congress, a supposedly compliant Court, and a staunchly conservative GOP White House, this problem grew in size, and was only now and then mentioned as an issue.

As to alien amnesty, it was the poster-boy of the neo-cons, Ronald Reagan, who signed the first such act into law.  Once done, there were soon cries of protest about the unfairness of the legislation, and attempts to correct those led to half a dozen follow-on bills.

Another twice repeated assertion, while correct with the wording of the Constitution, is misleading.  Implying that the chief executive is powerless where it comes to legislation save for veto or approval power is a complete misrepresentation of how things are done.  As chief executive, the President regularly requests legislation from congress.  (Check out how we got into Iraq in the first place.)  Only ignorance of, or naivety over, such routine procedure would prompt such a claim.  As the President, he is always first in line where proposing legislation is concerned, so for those first six years Dubya was in office, if he wanted a bill introduced and passed, it invariably happened.  Why wasn’t the illegal immigration of other than terrorists an issue during those years?  I haven’t a clue, except for what’s pointed out in reply #6 of this thread of course.

While I am opposed to illegal immigration, I’ll also say, in my most pragmatic and politically incorrect voice, that I’ve worked with a number of different nationalities over the years, and if I ever decided to open a company of my own I would strive to have the majority of my work force made up of a few minorities.  I’d hire Latinos because every one I’ve met knows that they can work harder and longer than the next guy, and is willing to prove it.  I’d hire people from India because, if you hire someone from India to play chess, you can rest assured that for twelve hours a day, that’s going to happen, and happen in the total absence of supervision.  Finally, I’d round out my work-force with people from South Korea and Turkey; you don’t know what toughness is about until you’ve worked with either of these groups.  There are others too, but these head the list.  Simply, they have work ethics that put our current ones to shame, and there’s an issue that really needs addressing.

As an aside, the meanest work I’ve ever done was haying a ten-thousand bale barn, which for some migrant workers is mere routine.  Made me love my job at General Electric.

I worked on a farm in Berne when I was in high school and it sure made me appreciate the farmer and how hard he has to work for the little pay he gets in return for that hard work. There's no easy job on a farm and one can see why the small farms are disappearing because nobody wants to work that hard for so little when they can make more money elsewhere for doing much less.