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DemocraticVoiceOfReason
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Uh, can you tell us how much the struggling Schenectady families with incomes of $30,000, and the elderly living on meager social security who have not gotten a raise in two years have to pay in property taxes for that building?????  

By the way, can you tell us how the people on social security who have not gotten a raise in two years are supposed to pay for the tax increase.....on top of food prices going up, on top of heat going up, on top of gas going up????  

And you think the wealthy business should be exempt????


The last time I checked .. Social Security was a Federal issue .. so it is hardly the fault of the city or the
county.  
I have NEVER said that wealthy business should be exempt from taxes  -- IF you took the time to
actually read my posts .. I have said that  PILOTS/property tax exemptions should ONLY be used as a
last resort to attract business and not handed out like lollipops   (which is something that both Dems &
GOP controlled IDAs have been guilty of).

I




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THe thing is DVOR refuses to answer my questions because he knows that he is wrong.  

He cannot in any way, manner, shape, or form make a statement that the proper make a statement that the city taxpayers are not covering the taxes for the wealthy businesses.  

But I really think he refuses to answer because it would really be an embarrassment, especially for a Catholic person, for him to make a statement that the elderly on fixed incomes should be paying the property taxes for the rich, as well as the average family with the typical
$30,000 household income to be subsidizing these millionaires.  It would be one thing if the business owner was a small mom and pop and net profit was a paltry $50,000, but these are either national chains, or super wealthy mom and pop businesses.


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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And of course, he carefully avoids responding to the question of what has improved in Schenectady---the real Schenectady where people live.  He avoids that question because he just can't come up with an answer.  He can't say that the little that has taken place in downtown has made Schenectady a better place to live.  He can't refute that crime has gone up, he can't refute that people are moving out in droves, he can't refute that the vacancy rate is skyrocketing, he can't refute that services have been cut big time, he just cannot refute that the spending of money downtown has caused the real part of the city to go down the tubes.

And of course, he would be careful of what he says because his party people might dump him and stop doing favors for him


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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Still avoids answering the question

He actually thinks the issue of elderly struggling on fixed incomes having to pay the property taxes of the millionaires downtown is funny?

Intelligent people think it's a very serious issue.  And totally unfair.


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
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Quoted from mikechristine1
And of course, he carefully avoids responding to the question of what has improved in Schenectady---the real Schenectady where people live.  He avoids that question because he just can't come up with an answer.  He can't say that the little that has taken place in downtown has made Schenectady a better place to live.  He can't refute that crime has gone up, he can't refute that people are moving out in droves, he can't refute that the vacancy rate is skyrocketing, he can't refute that services have been cut big time, he just cannot refute that the spending of money downtown has caused the real part of the city to go down the tubes.

And of course, he would be careful of what he says because his party people might dump him and stop doing favors for him


You always hit the issues right on the head MC1. You are dead on!!!! Anyone with half a brain can see how bad schenectady has become. We have been downtown a couple of times. Each time, we were approached by panhandlers, saw a guy pissing on the sidewalk and another vagrant puking at a bus stop. ALL IN THE RENEWED AREA OF STATE STREET!

We will not go down there again! And we certainly will not go after the shooting and fights at/by Boomers. We also do not ride through the mt. pleasant area at night. And during the day, our car doors are locked.

And just watch and don't be surprised........the plex will ask for an additional $25M!!


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you don't have to belong to a specific party to be a Regressive and/or a Nattering Nayboob of Negativity.


really?.....I was just responding to ANYONE(including yourself) that thinks by using/blowing/touting party names removes the negligence
and responsibility from the backs of those responsible......

the dollar bill is a a third party in a trade between 2 folks....why?  for civility of course......that's why there are 10 lawyers to  1 person....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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You always hit the issues right on the head MC1. You are dead on!!!! Anyone with half a brain can see how bad schenectady has become. We have been downtown a couple of times. Each time, we were approached by panhandlers, saw a guy pissing on the sidewalk and another vagrant puking at a bus stop. ALL IN THE RENEWED AREA OF STATE STREET!

We will not go down there again! And we certainly will not go after the shooting and fights at/by Boomers. We also do not ride through the mt. pleasant area at night. And during the day, our car doors are locked.

And just watch and don't be surprised........the plex will ask for an additional $25M!!



Oh gosh, is there anyone I can pay to change the sign on Bombers?   Maybe I'll try manipulating a photo.  Send it to Savage, ya know, she really lives up to her name



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I keep my car doors locked when I drive through a neighborhood of Regressives.


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Quoted from mikechristine1



Oh gosh, is there anyone I can pay to change the sign on Bombers?   Maybe I'll try manipulating a photo.  Send it to Savage, ya know, she really lives up to her name



Perhaps it will take a few bullets from those 'innocent shooting'!

Schenectady has to be careful that bombers doesn't have anymore fights/shootings. They could have their liquor license taken away.


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To borrow the words of  Mama Cass Elliot ---  there is a "new world coming"  and "its getting better" and
"the good times are coming".    


(all 3 being titles of hit songs of Ms. Elliot)


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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All they can do is spout the party line - but when confronted with real questions, regress into drivel and incoherent babble.
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I will respond to those posts that I choose to respond to ---  if I ignore you, it is because I am following
President Coolidge's advice to "not argue with ignorant people".


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"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice."  -Albert Einstein
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There's a New World Coming
And it's just around the bend
There's a new world coming
This one's coming to an end

There's a new voice calling
You can hear it if you try
And it's growing stronger
With each day that passes by

There's a brand new morning
Rising clear and sweet and free
There's a new day dawning
That belongs to you and me

Yes a new world's coming
The one we've had visions of
Coming in peace, coming in joy, coming in love.

New World Coming -- Cass Elliot


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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