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papanetta67
August 12, 2008, 12:05pm Report to Moderator
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1st-  I am not Pascarella.

2nd- I never said the Conservatives endorsed Denny

3rd- Who paid Spargo?

4th-  The preferred candidates you speak of have benefitted the Conservative Party- HOW??

5th- I do not agree that Cooke and Paolino are more conservative than Tommasone and Signore or do I think that their "ideology" is so different than that of the Conservative party.

6th- Despite what you now claim- you have personally attacked both of them in order to promote the person YOU- not the Conservative Party as a whole felt were the best choices.

7th-  Papa is not Pascarella.  Papa is not Desperate.  Papa is not Chairman.  Papa is Papa.  No more- no less.  Just Papa.

8th- To now align yourself with someone you recently referred to as Howdy Doody (TB)- you are the desperate one.  
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gadfly
August 12, 2008, 12:14pm Report to Moderator
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I didnt agree with the Cooke endorsement or the Denny endorsement.  


I think this indicates you are somehow under the impression that we endorsed Denny.
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gadfly
August 12, 2008, 12:43pm Report to Moderator
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1st-  I am not Pascarella.

2nd- I never said the Conservatives endorsed Denny

3rd- Who paid Spargo?

4th-  The preferred candidates you speak of have benefitted the Conservative Party- HOW??

5th- I do not agree that Cooke and Paolino are more conservative than Tommasone and Signore or do I think that their "ideology" is so different than that of the Conservative party.

6th- Despite what you now claim- you have personally attacked both of them in order to promote the person YOU- not the Conservative Party as a whole felt were the best choices.

7th-  Papa is not Pascarella.  Papa is not Desperate.  Papa is not Chairman.  Papa is Papa.  No more- no less.  Just Papa.

8th- To now align yourself with someone you recently referred to as Howdy Doody (TB)- you are the desperate one.  


1.) It sure took you a long time to make that claim.
2.) Already addressed - see previous post.
3.) None of your business. Who pays your private bills, and how much are they?
4.) The candidates I supported are not supposed to benefit the Conservative Party, they are supposed to reflect our conservative
     values, as indicated in the very name of the party. They are supposed to benefit ALL of the residents in their political unit.
5.) That is a matter of opinion. Still, NOT ONE SINGLE MEMBER OF THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE OPPOSED COOKE'S ENDORSEMENT.
6.) I have never attacked either Tommasone or Signore personally. I have disagreed with some of their policies. I have questioned
     their ability to prioritize, and to execute the town's business...and I think justifiably so. If Steve and/or other Conservatives outside
     of the Committee felt that we endorsed the wrong candidate, they should have filed an Opportunity to Ballot petition - just as we
     always have when the Committee fails to endorse conservative candidates. They are aware of this option, and simply didn't bother.
7.) papa IS Clueless
8.) You have me confused with Diane Marco - she gets the credit for naming Buchanan "Howdy Doody". I have always preferred "The
     Little Leprechaun", myself. I am not aligned with him...I am aligned with the hundreds of Conservatives in this occupied county who
     have been exploited by current and past "leaders" of the Conservative Party.
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papanetta67
August 12, 2008, 6:36pm Report to Moderator
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I do not believe Paul Brown wuld ever exploit anyone.

You have repeatedly personally attacked and criticized Signore and Tommasone.  You have a short memory.

Your efforts only serve to weaken the Conservative Party- which is the only goal of the handful of Republicans  and the "leader" you have aligned yourself with.
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Brad Littlefield
August 12, 2008, 7:03pm Report to Moderator
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For the record, as an enrolled member of the party, I have opposed many of the candidate endorsements made by the Conservative Party in the past several years.   Last years endorsements for the County Legislature were awarded to Democrats, one of whom (Jasenski) has voted in lock step with the Legislative Chair Savage.  Endorsing Jasenski and Godlewski rather than Lazzari and Santabarbara was testament to the party Executive Board placing self-interests above party ideology.  Endorsing Marty Finn and withholding the party endorsement for Armon Benny, a conservative Republican, for Scotia Village Board this year, is blatant pandering to the Democratic party majority.  

From discussions that I have had with several of these candidates, I have learned that a "litmus test" exists for deciding which candidates receive the Conservative party endorsements.  The questions focus on the Sheriff's Road Patrol and the candidate's support for the various union (police and fire) interests and support for upcoming contract negotiations.  A candidate who expresses support for the Sheriff Department will be denied the Conservative Party endorsement despite his or her conservative views on other issues (taxes, government spending, public safety, etc.).  

Though I was not party to the endorsement interviews as I don't yet hold a seat on the Conservative Party Committee and despite not being a resident of the Town of Rotterdam, I supported Steve Tommasone's campaign.  I witnessed a debate between Tommasone and Cooke that was held at the Rotterdam library branch.  Mr. Cooke did not present himself well.  Rather than articulate his positions on the important issues facing Schenectady County, he spent the majority of his time attacking Tommasone.  Mr. Tommasone retained his composure in the face of the attack from his opponent.  Steve remained focused on the issues.

I state my position only to say that there are differences of opinion that have occurred in the past re: candidate endorsements.  I suspect that there will be differences in the future.  But, there should be no litmus test such as that employed by the outgoing
Conservative Party Executive Board.

Finally, Papa, I have followed with interest the actions of the Conservative party from the bleachers over the past year or so.  There are many statements that you have made in your posts that identify you as someone who presently occupies a position on the Executive Board and who is privy to the internal workings and affairs of the party.  I believe that "Thou dost protest too much".  If you are not the present Chairman, perhaps you are his puppet master?  

Doesn't really matter to me.  The opinions of an outgoing Executive Board member who has betrayed the party membership with apparent quid pro quo arrangements that place personal and/or professional interests before those of the party aren't worthy of debate.
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gadfly
August 12, 2008, 7:09pm Report to Moderator
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I do not believe Paul Brown wuld ever exploit anyone.

You have repeatedly personally attacked and criticized Signore and Tommasone.  You have a short memory.

Your efforts only serve to weaken the Conservative Party- which is the only goal of the handful of Republicans  and the "leader" you have aligned yourself with.


Now I KNOW you are delusional papaClueless. Paul Brown was the biggest Krat whore there ever was(except, maybe, for Mike DellaRocco, who has always been the liason between Conservative Party "leaders" and the Kratz who own those "leaders" - the back office
Chairman, basically, at tremendous personal benefit both to himself and his liberal girlfriend, Karen Johnson). It is Brown who handed the
majority of the County Legislature to the Kratz through Conservative Party endorsements. It is also Brown who, in exchange for Sheriff
Dirty Harry's endorsement a FULL YEAR before his re-election, was rewarded with a fat cat job. THIS WAS ALL ACCOMPLISHED PRECISELY
THROUGH THE EXPLOITATION OF THE VERY CONSERVATIVES WHO WERE DUPED INTO VOTING FOR BROWN'S LIBERAL CANDIDATES.
Again, I have not attacked anyone personally...not even Ol' Smokey Brown. All of my statements with regard to Brown have all been
directed at his miserable "leadership" of the Conservative Party...and the devastating effects of his tenure. You are the one with NO
memory, papaGrosslyMisinformed.
The only ones weakening the Conservative Party are the liberal Demokratz who currently own it. Our efforts seek to return the
Conservative Party to its rightful owners - that is, enrolled Conservatives who are conservative.
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papanetta67
August 12, 2008, 7:14pm Report to Moderator
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Brad:

Not the chairman- not the puppet master.  Only a Rotterdam conservative on the sidelines like you who talks to a lot of people.  I believe in supporting the best candidates.  That hasn't always been done in the past.  Lets hope it is done in the future for the right reasons.  As far as the Sheriffs Department- I believe in smaller government, not creating another department that costs taxpayers millions a year.  

As far as Tommasone- I supported him too and think he will be there for many years to come.

As far as democrats controlling the Conservative party- that sounds good to people without a clue, but why then do they receive few endorsements throughout the county?
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gadfly
August 12, 2008, 7:31pm Report to Moderator
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Brad:

Not the chairman- not the puppet master.  Only a Rotterdam conservative on the sidelines like you who talks to a lot of people.  I believe in supporting the best candidates.  That hasn't always been done in the past.  Lets hope it is done in the future for the right reasons.  As far as the Sheriffs Department- I believe in smaller government, not creating another department that costs taxpayers millions a year.  

As far as Tommasone- I supported him too and think he will be there for many years to come.

As far as democrats controlling the Conservative party- that sounds good to people without a clue, but why then do they receive few endorsements throughout the county?


If you were talking to a lot of CONSERVATIVES with no special interest connections, you would have a clue yourself papaPuppet. You
would also know that it is the COUNTY our current Demokrat owners need to control to advance their socialist agenda. The towns are the
trade-off, as the Kratz know they will eventually be sucked up into their Communist vaccuum.
Although I have nothing against Steve personally, I hope he won't be there too long. I think he is in over his head...the endless and
expensive "studies", his support for ANOTHER tax district, etc. And I have yet to find anyone who can make heads or tails of his endless,
mumbling dissertations. I don't think even Steve knows what he's trying to say.

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papanetta67
August 13, 2008, 5:22am Report to Moderator
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Ok.  Well, I am glad that you never personally attack Steve.  And as far as the Kratz taking over and controlling everything- it aint hapening.  They control the county because they put up better or should I say, more
popular candidates the last several years.  The Republican Party in the county is a joke and they have not attracted viable candidates in  many races- like in the city.

As far as Steve goes, I voted for him last time and I will again.  I dont see the dems  coming up with a strong candidate in the town next time around.  From what I hear, it will be
Godlewski v Tommasone.  Steve would have the R, C, I lines and the Working Fam line and would win by 600 votes.
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gadfly
August 13, 2008, 6:04am Report to Moderator
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Ok.  Well, I am glad that you never personally attack Steve.  And as far as the Kratz taking over and controlling everything- it aint hapening.  They control the county because they put up better or should I say, more
popular candidates the last several years.  The Republican Party in the county is a joke and they have not attracted viable candidates in  many races- like in the city.

As far as Steve goes, I voted for him last time and I will again.  I dont see the dems  coming up with a strong candidate in the town next time around.  From what I hear, it will be
Godlewski v Tommasone.  Steve would have the R, C, I lines and the Working Fam line and would win by 600 votes.


I will not attack anyone personally...I believe there is no place for such antics in the political arena.
As for the Kratz, wake up papa. They have ALREADY taken over everything: the County, which they coveted for years (again, this was
accomplished through Paul Brown's endorsements of Demokratz across the board in that cycle - all but one of them won by less than the margin of the Conservative vote); the City; the Metrokratz cartel; Public Access TV; the "Independence" Party (they own Nebolini as well).
The Republican Party may be struggling a bit, but you would be hard pressed to convince anyone that Mike Kirvin or Kent Gray were
better candidates than Carolina Lazzari (ditched by Paul Brown and won anyway); or that Godlewski or Jasenski was a better candidate
than  Angelo Santabarbara (ditched by the current leadership, only to go on and not only win the Conservative Primary, but went on to
beat EVERYBODY in the race); or that Phil Mueller (Brown again) was a better candidate than Karen Drago. The outcomes in both the
Conservative Primaries and General Elections in these races would suggest otherwise.
The City remains tough territory for Republicans. If those city folk had any sense at all they would have elected Mike Cuevas for Mayor - by FAR superior to Stratton in every sense, and of course, very conservative - not exactly preferred in the City.
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papanetta67
August 13, 2008, 7:10am Report to Moderator
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Paul Brown endorsed the people he felt best represented the people he represented as you would like to endorse those candidates you feel would best represent your interests.  Nothing new.  
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gadfly
August 13, 2008, 9:16am Report to Moderator
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Paul Brown endorsed the people he felt best represented the people he represented as you would like to endorse those candidates you feel would best represent your interests.  Nothing new.  


Paul Brown endorsed whoever would do the most for HIM. Period.
We, on the other hand, are committed to supporting candidates who best represent conservative values, with the best potential to fulfill
their duties as public servants...very new.
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As far as Steve goes, I voted for him last time and I will again.  I dont see the dems  coming up with a strong candidate in the town next time around.  From what I hear, it will be
Godlewski v Tommasone.  Steve would have the R, C, I lines and the Working Fam line and would win by 600 votes.

Tommasone has been a good supervisor. In light of the past supervisors, he is clearly superior to them. He was left with a
mess that took decades to happen, and it will probably take decade to clean it up.
And I agree...I would vote for him and campaign for him. I voted for him before and plan to again. It will be bi contest if Godlewski is his opponent. No contest here! Steve Tommasone will win hands down. I don't think it matters if Steve gets the conserv line. He did
very well without it last time!!! Cooke was a democratic disaster!!!!!



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There were promises made to people by the Town Board that many of the problems that were caused by previous administrations would be corrected under their administration and now the boards plan seems to have changed to one of fix it as cheaply as we can and we'll tell the residents at least we tried. Once the town accepts a development from a builder the town becomes responsible for all the problems the builder created like it or not. That's why this town needs an engineer to oversee these developments to make sure that they were built the way the planning board approved them. As Michael has said many times there has to be responsibility, accountability, and a comprehensive plan to hold developers financially responsible for problems which might occur due to said developments.
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gadfly
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There were promises made to people by the Town Board that many of the problems that were caused by previous administrations would be corrected under their administration and now the boards plan seems to have changed to one of fix it as cheaply as we can and we'll tell the residents at least we tried. Once the town accepts a development from a builder the town becomes responsible for all the problems the builder created like it or not. That's why this town needs an engineer to oversee these developments to make sure that they were built the way the planning board approved them. As Michael has said many times there has to be responsibility, accountability, and a comprehensive plan to hold developers financially responsible for problems which might occur due to said developments.


You are so right. Some of my favorites are these constant claims to "fix" the water problems all over town - many or all of which have
been caused or severely increased due to irresponsible development and a lack of sound planning. This, by the way, is one of the many
reasons I didn't feel that Joe Signore was up to the task of Supervisor - he never believed that comprehensive planning was a priority.He was in fact opposed to comprehensive plans. I am one of what is probably not more than a few people in all of Rotterdam who has
actually read the Comprehensive Plan that was eventually passed in 2001. Let it just suffice to say that it is severely short on vision.
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