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What will be even more interesting is to see exactly IF the insurance companies will not only insure these properties....but how much the flood insurance will be.

Many folks who became victims of the flooding, can not get their homes insured. And if they can....they 'have' to have flood insurance and it is astronomical to say the least.

NYS Insurance will no longer take the chance of insuring any property 'by water'.


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Insurance companies are forcing people to build outside of known flood plains to prevent further loss of property and expensive payouts from claims due to flooding which seems like a pretty good idea. You can build along a river or on ocean front property but when disaster strikes you pay the bill instead of forcing the rest of us to chip in through higher insurance rates.
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Ice Jams are the huge unknown.    

Interesting article.  Ice Jams can change everything.  We have a very unique situation in Schenectady due to the bedrock and lack of areas for the water to go.  I wonder if the ALCO build could actually make the flooding worse for those in the Stockade.

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What will be even more interesting is to see exactly IF the insurance companies will not only insure these properties....but how much the flood insurance will be.

Many folks who became victims of the flooding, can not get their homes insured. And if they can....they 'have' to have flood insurance and it is astronomical to say the least.

NYS Insurance will no longer take the chance of insuring any property 'by water'.


Classic double whammy: Highest taxes in upstate combined with the outrageous insurance (if you can get it). I take that back, you'll HAVE to get insurance in order to get a mortgage..there will be the classic H2O backup/flood exclusions along with the policy from the State Insurance Fund.

By the time the numbers come back for your mortgage payments - you'll be looking elsewhere.
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DV pushes people to buy along river front areas for what does he care about houses he doesn't own any.


you sure about that?  


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Quit the questions to confuse....answer with facts....that's all you have to do...

b=BTW  it is easy to check to see if you do in fact own anything....
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All the front doors will have dock cleats, don't worry. You will be able to tie off...


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DV pushes people to buy along river front areas for what does he care about houses he doesn't own any.





you sure about that?  




Property ownership is--BY LAW--public record DV.   You do NOT own any property in the town, the county, or anywhere in the state of NY.   You just don't know how to look these things up, I do know how.    

And just remember ethics


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Q&A about Flood Insurance in NYS

The information on this page can also be downloaded as a brochure for printing. The link is in the right-hand column.

Introduction

Floods occur when runoff from rain or snowmelt exceeds the capacity of rivers, stream channels or lakes and overflows onto adjacent land. Floods can also be caused by storm surges and waves that inundate areas along tidal or Great Lakes coastlines. Throughout history, floods have claimed uncounted human lives and devastated property, even destroying cities. Yet people continue to settle and build in floodplains, increasing the risk of property damage and loss of life.

What is a floodplain?

Floodplains are low-lying lands next to rivers and streams. When left in a natural state, floodplain systems store and dissipate floods without adverse impacts on humans, buildings, roads and other infrastructure. Natural floodplains add to our quality of life by providing open space, habitat for wildlife, fertile land for agriculture, and opportunities for fishing, hiking and biking.

Floodplains can be viewed as a type of natural infrastructure that can provide a safety zone between people and the damaging waters of a flood. But more and more buildings, roads, and parking lots are being built where forests and meadows used to be, which decreases the land's natural ability to store and absorb water. Coupled with changing weather patterns, this construction can make floods more severe and increase everyone's chance of being flooded.

What is the National Flood Insurance Program?

The National Flood Insurance Program is a federal program created in 1968 to provide flood insurance to people who live in areas with the greatest risk of flooding, called Special Flood Hazard Areas. The program provides an alternative to disaster assistance and reduces the escalating costs of repairing damage to buildings and their contents caused by floods. The program provides flood insurance, while at the same time encouraging the sensible management and use of floodplains to reduce flood damage.

The National Flood Insurance Program offers flood insurance to homeowners, renters and business owners, provided their communities use the program's strategies for reducing flood risk, including adopting and enforcing floodplain management ordinances to reduce future flood damage. Community participation in the National Flood Insurance Program is voluntary. However, flood insurance and many kinds of federal disaster assistance are not available in communities that do not participate in the program. Fortunately, in New York, 1,466 communities participate in the National Flood Insurance Program.

Each participating community has a local law for flood damage prevention that contains specific standards for any development in federally mapped Special Flood Hazard Areas. These areas have a one percent or greater chance of experiencing a flood in any year and are shown on Flood Insurance Rate Maps provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

Insurance Questions

Q: Can you buy flood insurance if you are located in a high-flood-risk area?
A: YES! You can buy National Flood Insurance no matter where you live if your community participates in the National Flood Insurance Program. In fact, under the National Flood Insurance Act, mortgage lenders must require borrowers whose property is located within a Special Flood Hazard Area to purchase flood insurance as a condition of receiving a federally regulated mortgage loan. National Flood Insurance is not available in designated Coastal Barrier Resources System areas, which are shown on a community's Flood Insurance Rate Maps.

Q. Can you buy flood insurance immediately before or during a flood?
A. You can purchase flood coverage at any time. There is a 30-day waiting period after you've applied and paid the premium before the policy is effective, with the following exceptions:
1.If the initial purchase of flood insurance is in connection with a loan, there is no waiting period. The coverage becomes effective at the time of the loan, provided application and payment of the premium have been made.
2.If the initial purchase of flood insurance is made during the 13-month period following the effective date of a revised flood map for a community, there is a one-day waiting period for any structure within an area that is shown as being in an Special Flood Hazard Area for the first time.

The policy does not cover a "loss in progress," defined by the National Flood Insurance Program as a loss occurring as of 12:01 a.m. on the first day of the policy term. In addition, during a flooding event, you cannot increase the amount of insurance coverage you have.

Q. Don't homeowners' insurance policies cover flooding?
A. NO! Unfortunately, many homeowners do not find out until it is too late that their homeowners' policies do not cover flooding.

Q. Is flood insurance only available for homeowners?
A. Flood insurance is available to protect owners and renters of homes, condominiums, apartments and nonresidential buildings, including commercial structures. A limit of $250,000 of building coverage is available for single-family residential buildings or for residential condominium units. Contents coverage on residential buildings is limited to $100,000, which is also available to renters. Commercial structures can be insured to a limit of $500,000 each for the building and contents. These limits are subject to change.

Q. Can you buy flood insurance if your property has been flooded before?
A. YES! You remain eligible to purchase flood insurance if your home, apartment or business has been flooded before, as long as your community participates in the National Flood Insurance Program. Flood insurance premiums do not go up as a result of your claims history.

Q. Can you buy flood insurance if you are not located in a high risk flood area?
A. YES! Even if you live in an area that is not flood-prone, it's advisable to have flood insurance. About a quarter of the National Flood Insurance Program's claims come from outside high flood risk areas. The Program's Preferred Risk Policy, available for just over $260 per year for $100,000 of coverage, is designed for residential properties located in low-to-moderate flood risk zones.

Q. Why would properties outside of mapped flood hazard areas be subject to floods?
A. Flood Insurance Rate Maps show areas which are subject to predictable flooding from streams, lakes or tidal waters. Areas within one square mile of a stream's headwaters are usually not mapped. Due to the unpredictable nature of some kinds of floods, maps also don't show many areas subject to flooding from localized drainage problems, ice jams, or sheet flooding down a slope. Maps are based on the "100-year" flood, better thought of as the flood that has a one percent or greater chance of occurring in any given year. Larger floods can and do happen.

Q. Can National Flood Insurance Program flood insurance be purchased through private insurance agents?
A. YES! This flood insurance is sold through private insurance companies and agents, and it is backed by the federal government.

Q. Does the National Flood Insurance Program offer any basement coverage?
A. Yes, it does. The program defines a basement as any area of a building with a floor that is below ground level on all sides. Flood insurance does not cover basement improvements, such as finished walls, floors or ceilings, or personal belongings such as furniture and other contents. It does cover structural elements, essential equipment and other basic items normally located in a basement, as well as cleanup costs. Many of these items are covered under building coverage, and some are covered under contents coverage.The following are covered under building coverage, as long as they are connected to a power source and installed in their functioning location:
•Sump pumps;
•Well water tanks and pumps, cisterns and the water in them;
•Oil tanks and the oil in them, natural gas tanks and the gas in them;
•Pumps and/or tanks used in conjunction with solar energy;
•Furnaces, hot water heaters, air conditioners, and heat pumps;
•Electrical junction and circuit breaker boxes and required utility connections;
•Foundation elements;
•Stairways, staircases and elevators;
•Unpainted drywall and Sheetrock walls and ceilings, including fiberglass insulation;
•Clothes washers and dryers, food freezers and the food in them.

Q. Won't federal disaster assistance pay for flood damage?
A. NOT REALLY! Before a community is eligible for disaster assistance, it must be declared a federal disaster area. Federal disaster assistance declarations are issued in less than 50 percent of flooding incidents. Most federal disaster assistance is in the form of loans. The premium for an National Flood Insurance Program policy, averaging a little more than $350 a year, is typically less expensive than a single monthly payment on a federal disaster loan. Furthermore, if you are uninsured and receive federal disaster assistance after a flood, you must purchase flood insurance to remain eligible for future disaster relief.

Q. Does the National Flood Insurance Program encourage risky development?
A. One of the program's primary objectives is to guide development away from high-flood-risk areas. Program regulations minimize the impact of structures that are built in Speical Flood Hazard Areas by requiring them to not cause obstructions to the natural flow of flood waters. Also, as a condition of community participation in the National Flood Insurance Program, those structures built within Special Flood Hazard Areas must adhere to strict floodplain management regulations.

Q. What type of flooding does National Flood Insurance cover?
A. The program defines covered flooding as a general and temporary condition during which the surface of normally dry land is partially or completely inundated. Two properties in the area or two or more acres must be affected. Flooding can be caused by:
•The overflow of inland or tidal waters;
•The unusual and rapid accumulation or runoff of surface waters from any source;
•Mudslides, i.e., mudflows, caused by flooding, that could be described as a river of liquid and flowing mud; or
•The collapse or destabilization of land along the shore of a lake or other body of water, resulting from erosion, the effect of waves, or water currents exceeding normal, cyclical levels.

Q. Is wind-driven rain considered flooding?
A. NO! Rain entering through wind-damaged windows, doors or a hole in a wall or the roof, resulting in standing water or puddles, is considered windstorm, rather than flood damage. National Flood Insurance covers only damage caused by the general condition of flooding (defined above), typically caused by storm surges, wave washes, tidal waves, or the overflow of any body of water over normally dry land areas.

For more information, ask your insurance agent or company, or call the National Flood Insurance Program's toll-free number at 1-888-379-9531, TDD# 1-800-427-5593. Or email FloodSmart@dhs.gov. More information is at http://www.floodsmart.gov/.



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Joining the National Flood Insurance Program

The National Flood Insurance Program is a Federal program enabling property owners in participating communities to purchase insurance protection against losses from flooding. This insurance is designed to provide an insurance alternative to disaster assistance to meet the escalating costs of repairing damage to buildings and their contents caused by floods.

Participation in the National Flood Insurance Program is based on an agreement between local communities and the Federal Government that states if a community will adopt and enforce a floodplain management ordinance to reduce future flood risks to new construction in Special Flood Hazard Areas (100-year floodplain, or areas subject to a 1 percent or greater chance of flooding per year), the Federal Government will make flood insurance available within the community as a financial protection against flood losses. If communities do not participate in the National Flood Insurance Program then insurance companies can not write policies for that community and federally regulated lending institutions are prohibited from issuing mortgages for properties within mapped Special Flood Hazard Areas as depicted on the Flood Insurance Rate Map.

Currently, the majority of New York State communities with mapped flood hazard areas are already in the National Flood Insurance Program. There are also many communities which do not have maps that participate so that their residents may have access to flood insurance.

In order to join the National Flood Insurance Program a municipality simply needs to pass a resolution indicating that it is interested in joining the program, fill out an application (see right column of this page) and adopt the necessary flood damage prevention local law to be approved by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. This local law indicates that if a community has mapped flood hazard areas and if development is to occur in those flood hazard areas then the development is required to be built to certain standards, identified in the National Flood Insurance Program's regulations (44 CFR 60.3) and the New York State Building and Residential Codes. If development is being considered for a Special Flood Hazard Area, then the local floodplain administrator, an office designated in the local law, reviews the development to ensure that construction standards have been met before issuing a floodplain development permit. Non-structural development within a Special Flood Hazard Area is also subject to a local floodplain development permit.

The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation has three model local laws for flood damage prevention that communities can adopt to join the program: one for communities without mapped flood hazards, one for communities with standard mapped flood hazards, and another for communities with coastal flood hazard areas. Links to these laws and other materials to join the National Flood Insurance Program are listed in the right-hand column on this webpage. If your community would like more information on joining the program please contact the floodplain management section at the number also listed in the right-hand column.

To request the Model Flood Damage Prevention Law appropriate for your community, please contact the DEC Floodplain Management Section at 518-402-8185 or at floodpln@gw.dec.state.ny.us.


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The National Flood Insurance Program

Floodplain Management
•What is Floodplain Management?
•What must a community do to join the NFIP?
•Community Assistance Program
•Additional Areas of Interest
•Other Federal Programs that help the NFIP

To receive NFIP e-mail updates

What is Floodplain Management?

Floodplain management is the operation of a community program of corrective and preventative measures for reducing flood damage. These measures take a variety of forms and generally include requirements for zoning, subdivision or building, and special-purpose floodplain ordinances.

A community's agreement to adopt and enforce floodplain management ordinances, particularly with respect to new construction, is an important element in making flood insurance available to home and business owners. Currently over 20,100 communities voluntarily adopt and enforce local floodplain management ordinances that provide flood loss reduction building standards for new and existing development.

To help State and local officials in implementing the NFIP, see our
1.Adoption of Flood Insurance Rate Maps by Participating Communities
2.NFIP Floodplain Management Requirements
3.NFIP Policy Keyword Index

To encourage communities to establish sound floodplain management programs that recognize and encourage community floodplain management activities that exceed the minimum NFIP requirements, the Community Rating System (CRS) was created. This program provides communities with discounts to flood insurance rates.

Additional floodplain management resources  are available to download or can be ordered from the FEMA Publication Distribution Center by calling 1-800-480-2520 and requesting the publication by its FEMA number.

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What must a community do to join the NFIP?

To join the Program, the community must submit an application package that includes the following information:
•Application For Participation in the National Flood Insurance Program (FEMA Form 81-64): This one-page form asks for the following information: ◦Community name
◦Chief Executive Officer
◦Person responsible for administering the community's floodplain management program
◦Community repository for public inspection of flood maps
◦Estimates of land area, population, and number of structures in and outside the floodplain



•Resolution of Intent: The community must adopt a resolution of intent, which indicates an explicit desire to participate in the NFIP and commitment to recognize flood hazards and carry out the objectives of the Program.


•Floodplain Management Regulations: The community must adopt and submit floodplain management regulations that meet or exceed the minimum flood plain management requirements of the NFIP.

For more information about joining the program:
•Please read Joining the National Flood Insurance Program.
•Please contact your FEMA Regional Office or the NFIP State Coordinating Agency for information about joining the Program. These offices will provide an application, sample resolution, and a model floodplain management ordinance.

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Community Assistance Program

The Community Assistance Program (CAP) is a product-oriented financial assistance program directly related to the flood loss reduction objectives of the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP). States that are participating in the NFIP are eligible for this Federally funded assistance. The CAP is intended to help States identify, prevent, and resolve floodplain management issues in participating communities before a flood event.

Find more information about the two other elements that make up the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP):

Flood Hazard Mapping


Flood Insurance


In addition, you can visit the Map Service Center for other NFIP resources and to order and view official FEMA flood insurance rate maps.

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Additional Areas of Interest
•How the NFIP Works
•NFIP Policy Keyword Index
•NFIP Study Guide and Desk Reference
•Community Rating System
•Increase Cost of Compliance
•National Flood Mitigation Data Collection Tool
•NFIP Forms

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Other Federal Programs that help the NFIP
•Flood Mitigation Assistance
•Pre-Disaster Mitigation Grant
•Hazard Mitigation Grant Program
•Environmental and Historic Preservation
•Executive Order 11988 -- Floodplain Management
•Executive Order 11990 - Protection of Wetland

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After this years historic flooding and the annual spring flooding..........NYS insurance companies will be very reluctant to insure these properties near water. And if they do....it will be huge. Just ask the schoharie and other flood victim folks.

Hell there are homes in Sunrise Estates in rotterdam that are considered a flood risk due to a high water table and insurance companies will not insure them.


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I took a ride from Middleburg through Schoharie and many of the homes that were severely flood damaged are still boarded up and people just walked away. The money that the people are getting to repair their homes is not nearly enough to fix them properly and in a lot of cases the houses are completely gone leaving only the foundations. It's a very sad scene to see. After the flooding in 1994 along the Mississippi River the people were not allowed to rebuild close to the flood plain.
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