Wasn't Hitler a Catholic Jew.....I think Power/control would sum up his Dogma from his twisted mind/soul......
The root cause of muslim hatrid that is thier view of Israeli-Jews as Pigs or dogs and need to be killed. We must try to understand their religion and their beliefs. You cannot understand this hate unless you understand that the fact that Israel's existence, proves the Muslims religion to be incorrect and proves Mohammed to be a false Prophet. The Muslim's have only two choices, One; at all coast they must destroy Israel; or two; they can change there beliefs. Which do you think they will chose? And where will that choice Lead the world too?
You don't have to get this from TV, you can get it from the Bible. Abraham had a son with Sarah's maid servant. He was Ismael (the one that the Muslim religion is based). Abraham and Sarah had a son. He was Isaac(the one that the Jewish religion is based). The Jews believe the land of Israel was given to Isaac, so it is their entitlement. The Muslims believe the land of Israel was given to Ismael, so it was their entitlement. And they have been at war with each other ever since, as prophesized!
The other sickos such as Hitler were just plain evil, but not part of the original scenerio.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Sudanese protesters demand British teacher be executed BY MOHAMED OSMAN The Associated Press
KHARTOUM, Sudan — Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and swords and beating drums, burned pictures of a British teacher Friday and demanded her execution for insulting Islam by letting her students name a teddy bear Muhammad. Sudan’s Islamic government, which has long whipped up anti-Western, Muslim hard-line sentiment at home, was balancing between fueling outrage over the case of Gillian Gibbons and containing it. The government does not want to seriously damage ties with Britain, but the show of anger underlines its stance that Sudanese oppose Western interference, lawyers and political foes said. The uproar comes as the U.N. is accusing Sudan of dragging its feet on the deployment of peacekeepers in the war-torn Darfur region. Many in the protesting crowd shouted “Kill her! Kill her by fi ring squad!” In response to the rally in central Khartoum, Gibbons was moved from the women’s prison across the Nile in Oumdurman to a secret location, her chief lawyer Kamal al-Gizouli told the Associated Press. He said he visited her there to discuss her conviction Thursday on charges of insulting Islam. The 54-year-old Gibbons, who was sentenced to 15 days in jail, spoke Friday with her son John and daughter Jessica in Britain by telephone. “One of the things my mum said today was that I don’t want any resentment towards Muslims,” the son told AP. “She’s holding up quite well.” Despite the fervor of the protest, the rest of Khartoum was quiet. The rally was far smaller than February 2006 protests held with government backing after European newspapers ran caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad, suggesting popular anger over Gibbons did not run as deep. In their mosque sermons Friday, several Muslim clerics harshly denounced Gibbons, saying she had intentionally insulted the prophet, but they did not call for protests and said the punishment ordered by the court was sufficient. Still, after prayers, several thousand people converged on Khartoum’s Martyrs Square, near the presidential palace, and began calling for Gibbons’ execution. Many seemed to be from Sufi groups, religious sects that emphasize reverence for the prophet. Some angrily denounced the teacher, but others smiled as they beat drums and burned newspapers with Gibbons’ picture, waving swords and clubs and green banners, the color of Islam. Chants of “Kill her!” and “No tolerance: Execution!” rang out as hundreds of police in riot gear stood by, keeping the crowd contained but not moving against the rally. Protesters dismissed Gibbons’ claims that she didn’t mean to insult the prophet. “It is a premeditated action, and this unbeliever thinks that she can fool us?” said Yassin Mubarak, a young dreadlocked man swathed in green and carrying a sword. “What she did requires her life to be taken.” Several hundred protesters marched to Unity High School, where Gibbons worked, and chanted outside briefly before heading toward the nearby British Embassy. They were stopped by security forces two blocks from the embassy. The protest dispersed after an hour. “I would like to tell the whole world that what happened here from this English teacher is not acceptable to us,” said a protester, Sheikh Nasser Abu Shamah. There was no overt sign that the government organized the protest, but such a public rally could not have taken place without at least official assent. Gibbons was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in jail and deportation for insulting Islam with the naming of the teddy bear, which was part of a class project for her 7-year-old students at the private school. She escaped harsher punishment that could have included up to 40 lashes, six months in prison and a fine. Her time in jail since her arrest Sunday counts toward the sentence. ABD RAOUF/THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Sudanese protesters hold a newspaper carrying a photo of British teacher Gillian Gibbons during a protest in Khartoum on Friday. The protesters called for the execution of Gibbons, who was convicted of insulting Islam for letting her students name a teddy bear Muhammad.
I wonder what they think of Muhammad ali??? or the rest of the Muhammads around the world......I also knew someone named Jesus
That's what happens when we make dead people so important that it makes us blood thirsty.......God said vengence is mine......
If we have to actually defend our all powerful religion(each dogma teaches) then it is not that powerful and our faith is dirt-----GOD DOES NOT NEED DEFENDING BY US.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
British lawmakers seek teacher’s release The Associated Press
KHARTOUM, Sudan — Two British parliament members met officials in Sudan Saturday to try to secure the release of a British teacher imprisoned for naming a teddy bear Muhammad and later said the Khartoum government wants to resolve the case. Baroness Sayeeda Warsi and Lord Nazir Ahmed, both Muslim members of Parliament’s upper house, also visited the teacher Gillian Gibbons in prison for more than an hour. “Gillian was surprisingly in good spirits considering the last seven days,” Warsi, a Conservative, told Sky News. Warsi and Ahmed arrived in Sudan Saturday on what the British Foreign Office called a private visit to meet with officials and seek the early release of Gibbons. Concern for Gibbons’ safety was sparked Friday after thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and swords and beating drums, burned pictures of her and demanded her execution during a rally in the capital Khartoum. “The Sudanese government [does] want to resolve this matter. [We] hope we can come to an amicable resolution soon,” Warsi said after she and Ahmed met Sudanese officials. “They’ve been very positive so far,” Ahmed said in an interview with the BBC. “We’ve had very frank discussions, and we are very hopeful that we’ll be meeting more ministers and officials and this will continue until such time as we can reach a satisfactory conclusion.” A lawyer for Gibbons said President Omar al-Bashir could inform the visiting parliamentarians that he had pardoned the teacher. Gibbons’ lawyer Kamal al-Gizouli said Sudan’s president could deliver news of a pardon when he meets the British visitors. But it was not immediately clear when they would meet. “I would not be surprised if president of the republic will tell delegation we have dropped this charge,” al-Gizouli told The Associated Press. Gibbons, 54, was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in jail and deportation for insulting Islam by naming a teddy bear Muhammad — the name of Islam’s prophet. The naming was part of a class project for her 7-year-old students at a private school in Sudan.
Senders had a good point. What do they think of naming a 'violent' fighter Mohommad Ali? And yes there are people named Jesus too. And the Jews don't seem to have a problem naming a cake 'Jewish coffee cake'. I wonder what the Muslims think when someone sneezes and someone else says 'God bless you'. I also wonder what they think when someone uses the Christain God's name in vain...'Jesus Christ'! In fact are they allowed to take the Christain God's name in vain in Muslim countries? Hmmmm.....
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Senders had a good point. What do they think of naming a 'violent' fighter Mohommad Ali? And yes there are people named Jesus too. And the Jews don't seem to have a problem naming a cake 'Jewish coffee cake'. I wonder what the Muslims think when someone sneezes and someone else says 'God bless you'. I also wonder what they think when someone uses the Christain God's name in vain...'Jesus Christ'! In fact are they allowed to take the Christain God's name in vain in Muslim countries? Hmmmm.....
I think somewhere toward the beginning of this thread I brought up Ali- I remember he served 3+ years in jail for refusing to fight in Viet Nam. Boxing like hockey is a sport. Agressive - or violent ?
Ive been in a taxi- especialy in DC with an Islamic driver when THEY sneeze- Its sort of confusing- I remember asking what if anything is proper to say- and you know to this day I cant understand what he said. Maybe you could get in trouble for asking Allah to bless something like sneezing-
This past Saturday I was driving through the University of Michigan- Ann Arbor campus and just off campus there were a half dozen or so Muslims ( students I assume ) with protest signage saying " America stop funding Israel " and other things similar against Israel. And we know thats not a good thing-
- But I was back at Holly Manor having dinner with Mom the Saturday before- no protesters over there
By ALFRED de MONTESQUIOU, Associated Press Monday, December 3, 2007
KHARTOUM, Sudan -- A British teacher jailed for insulting Islam after allowing her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad was released Monday when Sudan's president pardoned her, a British Embassy spokesman said.
The conviction of Gillian Gibbons under Sudan's Islamic Sharia law shocked Britons and many Muslims worldwide. It also inflamed passions among many Sudanese, some of whom called for her execution.
Gibbons escaped harsher punishment that could have included up to 40 lashes, six months in prison and a fine.
In a written statement given to President Omar al-Bashir and read by a British mediator, Gibbons said she did not intend to offend anyone and had great respect for Islam.
"She is in British Embassy custody and is with the deputy British ambassador," embassy spokesman Omar Daair said. He would not give her exact location or say when she would leave Sudan.
Gibbons, 54, was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation for insulting Islam because she allowed her students to name a class teddy bear Muhammad, seen as a reference to Islam's Prophet Muhammad. Her time in jail since her arrest Nov. 25 counted toward the sentence.
Al-Bashir pardoned Gibbons after two British Muslim politicians from the House of Lords met with him to plead for her release.
Lord Nazir Ahmed, who met with al-Bashir along with Baroness Sayeeda Warsi, said the case was an "unfortunate misunderstanding" and stressed that Britain respected Islam.
In the statement, released by the presidential palace and read by Warsi to reporters Monday, Gibbons said she was sorry if she caused any "distress."
"I have a great respect for the Islamic religion and would not knowingly offend anyone," Gibbons said in the statement. "I am looking forward to seeing my family and friends, but I am very sorry that I will be unable to return to Sudan."
Ghazi Saladdin, a senior presidential adviser, said al-Bashir insisted that Gibbons had a "fair trial," but he agreed to pardon her because of the efforts by the British Muslim delegation.
It was unclear when Gibbons would leave Sudan. Earlier Monday, Sudanese presidential spokesman Mahzoub Faidul told The Associated Press that Gibbons would "fly back to England today." However, travel agents in Sudan said the first European-bound flights would not leave Khartoum until early Tuesday.
During her trial, the weeping teacher said she had intended no harm.
The naming of the teddy bear was part of a class project for her 7-year-old students at the private Unity High School. She asked the students to pick names for it and they proposed Abdullah, Hassan and Muhammad, and in September, the pupils voted to name it Muhammad, he said.
Each child was allowed to take the bear home on weekends and write a diary about what they did with it. The diary entries were collected in a book with the bear's picture on the cover, labeled, "My Name is Muhammad," he said. The bear itself was never labeled with the name, he added.
Another staff member at the school complained about the bear's name, leading to Gibbons' arrest.
The case also sparked criticism from many Muslims in the West who said she should have never been arrested. On Monday, Inayat Bunglawala, a spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain, welcomed the pardon. "It will be wonderful to see her back in the U.K. I am sure she will be welcomed by both Muslims and non-Muslims after her quite terrible ordeal at the hands of the Sudanese authorities," Bunglawala said.
There were concerns for Gibbons' safety in Sudan after thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and swords and beating drums, burned pictures of her and demanded her execution during a rally in Khartoum on Friday. She was moved from the Omdurman women's prison to a secret location after the demonstrations against her, her lawyer said.
There was no overt sign that the government organized the protest, but such a rally could not have taken place without at least official assent.
Sudan's ambassador in London, Khalid al-Mubarak, insisted Monday that the demonstrations "were an argument from the fringe."
WOW...don't ya just wish that the christains would reverence their savior just half as much as the muslims do theirs?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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