The difference between a county vs a private nursing home is the huge out of control cost to the taxpayers if it is county/government owned. Also, Glendale is know for it's 'care' issues.
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The County Democrats are FULLY committed to stopping the extreme Right - Wing as they attempt to throw the fragile and needy elderly into the dirty, muddy gutter to fight for themselves.. It is sad that a major party has basically decided that it would be better to murder these valuable seniors via neglect rather than give them the sustenance they need and so richly DESERVE. The Glenville Home WILL be rebuilte -- BETTER - GREATER and more comfortable.. THANK YOU, Mrs. Savage -- THIS will be your legacy of compassion!
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The doctor even though he is a 'consultant' and with MVP is absolutely correct.....we haven't even come close to seeing the cost that will rocket up in the next 20years....if the governments own these piddly places the UNIONS will KILL the taxpayers...
private allows for private union.....let them handle the cost......the amount of workers required for the boomers is STAGGERING.....and that doesn't include the cost increase year after year of overhead.....
the virtual medicaid houses are being built.....and everyone will be 'umbrella-ed' by one..... no need for county named home for posterity......
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GLENVILLE Open space action eyed 15 acres behind nursing home may be park BY MICHAEL GOOT Gazette Reporter
About 15 acres of land behind the county-owned Glendale Home nursing facility would be designated parkland under a proposed county resolution. Schenectady County legislators Brian Gordon, Martin Finn, Cathy Gatta and Tom Constantine plan to introduce the measure at a county board committee meeting tonight to protect the land behind the nursing home on Hetcheltown Road. The land is adjacent to the Indian Kill Nature Preserve and townowned lands at the end of Birch Lane known as Hemlock Hollow. Nearby residents had clamored for the land to be declared open space back in 2010 when there were some ideas floated to build a new 200-bed nursing home next to the current facility. They did not want to lose the area that is used for hiking and walking and a sledding hill. In response, the county redesigned the plan for the new nursing home. Hetcheltown Road will be relocated so a new facility could be built in front of the existing home, which would then be demolished. One of those residents who advocated for the land’s protection, Cathy Send, said Sunday she was excited by the news. “It’s nice that they’ve listened to the people that really, really care about the land and we appreciate it very much,” she said. The area is great recreational space and people can walk in the Indian Kill all the way to Route 50. There is also wildlife, including foxes, deer, turkey and birds, according to Send. County officials at one point had said that the new nursing home, estimated to cost about $51 million, would be completed in October 2013. However, the same news release announcing the proposed resolution said the expected completion date is April 2014. ................................>>>>......................>>>>........................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00904&AppName=1
Get rid of county assets and get the private sector to own them and pay taxes. Unfortunately the public sector is sucking the air out of the room here and across the state.
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This exact proposal was voted down by the same DEMS now proposing it. Then it was proposed by Jim Buhrmaster so the partisans refused to support it. Two years after they received bonding and still no ground breaking for this idiotic DEM Taj Mahal. Montgomery, Fulton and Saratoga have all gotten out of the nursing home business which is another taxpayer black hole. Albany is looking at different solutions. Only pathetic Schenectady County which is controlled by public employee unions is interested in building at any price. Taxpayers go to hell and keep singing renaissance songs.
Big step ahead for new nursing home Schenectady County to take bids soon on $50.5M Glendale project By Lauren Stanforth Published 10:39 p.m., Tuesday, February 7, 2012
GLENVILLE — One year after a public presentation on a new Glendale Nursing Home, the county is set to seek bids on the project.
The county acknowledges it has "a site plan in final form" for the $50.5 million home and will dedicate 15 acres on the site as park land.
The new Glendale Home project, which calls for a smaller, more modern facility to be built directly on Hetcheltown Road, has been floating around for more than three years, with the county legislature authorizing construction back in 2009. Under the plan, the current home will be demolished. The county said it had already borrowed the money but had to receive the state approvals to move and reconstruct Hetcheltown..................>>>>..............>>>>..............Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/loca.....93.php#ixzz1lnJdGHMe
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200 people out of how many???? oh,,I get it....those in the 'in' will get in....the rest will be in 'elder apartments' followed by the shiny new medicaid houses....a wing and a prayer for someone to show up to assist you.....
really? a whole 200 folks????? really????
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DEMS have been holding the bonding money for 3 years. No one can believe they are still going forward on this debacle. Once again they blame "State mandates" instead their own fiscal incompetence. Every neighboring County is getting out of the public nursing home business because of massive cuts in State reimbursements. Another only in Schenectady County. No problemo- the County sheeple can pay more. No one will complain too much. The ones with any brains have already fled to Saratoga County.
SCHENECTADY COUNTY Labor deal set for nursing home BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
County officials are poised to ratify a labor agreement for the new Glendale Nursing Home they claim will knock an estimated $737,000 off the project’s $50.5 million price tag. The pact with the Greater Capital Region Building and Construction Trades Council will also ensure any contractor bidding on the project will use local labor. At least 80 percent of the workforce for the project will be taken from local union halls, according to the agreement. Contractors also will be permitted to use more apprentice labor during construction, meaning the county could realize roughly $400,000 in savings there. Up to a quarter of the workers hired by contractors can be apprentices in programs certified by the state Department of Labor. Holiday work stoppages will also be limited, for a total savings of $185,000 under the agreement. The recognized number of holidays will be dropped to six days, which will all be unpaid. The county will also realize $152,000 in savings by designating all work on the site as part of the Glendale project and using an expedited procedure for worker’s compensation. In addition, the agreement encourages the use of minority and economically disadvantaged workers, as well as military veterans. “The construction of a new Glendale Home will not only provide an improved facility for our most vulnerable residents but represents a $50 million investment into our local economy,” county Legislature Chairwoman Judy Dagostino, DRotterdam, said in a news release. “This project will create local jobs, teach important skills to apprentice workers, provide opportunities for minorities and women, and provide career opportunities for our returning veterans, all while saving taxpayers money.” Negotiation on the labor agreement started in August. The pact was formally reached on Monday. “The county of Schenectady is to be commended for reaching this agreement which helps to ensure that local construction workers will be given fi rst preference and will save the taxpayers over $700,000 through negotiated work-rules,” council President Jeff Stark said in a news release issued through the county late Friday afternoon. Plans for the new nursing home call for a 200-bed facility to be constructed in front of the existing collection of older buildings, some of which date back to the 1930s. Once construction is complete, the older facility will be demolished, according to plans. County legislators authorized bonding of up to $50.5 million for the project, with roughly 85 percent of the cost of construction expected to be recouped through enhanced Medicaid reimbursement. County officials are expecting the home to open in April 2014. Work has already begun on moving about 1,450 feet of Hetcheltown Road to accommodate the new building and sewer connections. Next week, legislators are expected to designate 15 acres of land behind the existing home as parkland, ensuring that the project won’t encroach upon an area many area residents use for recreation. County legislators will also be asked to ratify the labor agreement when they meet Tuesday. County Attorney Chris Gardner said the design and bid package is ready, meaning the project could go out to bid if the Legislature approves the labor agreement. “We’re ready to go forward,” he said. But Jim Buhrmaster, the Legislature’s lone Republican and an ardent opponent of building a new nursing home, said the labor agreement seems like another way for the majority Democrats to ensure the nursing home is constructed, even though public support for the project as waning. “This is all just trying to tighten the noose around people to ensure this project happens,” he said. “We shouldn’t be doing it at all because it’s not needed. Very clearly, it’s not needed.” Buhrmaster, R-Glenville, said private-sector nursing homes continue to thrive, while ones owned by the public struggle to stay afloat.................>>>>.....................>>>>..................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01200&AppName=1
Schenectady the city with the champagne taste with only the price of a beer. True it will create some labor jobs for a couple of years but when the bill comes due, it will hang like a giant Albatross around the neck of the taxpayers.
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This exact proposal was voted down by the same DEMS now proposing it. Then it was proposed by Jim Buhrmaster so the partisans refused to support it. Two years after they received bonding and still no ground breaking for this idiotic DEM Taj Mahal. Montgomery, Fulton and Saratoga have all gotten out of the nursing home business which is another taxpayer black hole. Albany is looking at different solutions. Only pathetic Schenectady County which is controlled by public employee unions is interested in building at any price. Taxpayers go to hell and keep singing renaissance songs. 
DEMS have been holding the bonding money for 3 years. No one can believe they are still going forward on this debacle. Once again they blame "State mandates" instead their own fiscal incompetence. Every neighboring County is getting out of the public nursing home business because of massive cuts in State reimbursements. Another only in Schenectady County. No problemo- the County sheeple can pay more. No one will complain too much. The ones with any brains have already fled to Saratoga County. 
