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William Pen
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Sell the county nursing home  Neighboring counties are looking to privatize or provide other senior care options.
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Mr. Pen, no one takes anything you say seriously.
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They won't be behind the new home for long when they get their tax bill raised to pay for it.


The problem is that they have probably already figured out how to get their exemptions.  Everybody else has...


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The nattering Naybobs of Negativity are at it again since their diapers are getting stinky and the he-she monkey won't change them out because he-she has his-her's head up his-her's butt! The Working Together Team will protect the elderly and those most helpless of our family members have a safe and decent place to live. The extremists and tea-poopers will be crying even louder while they seig-heil their fuhrer.  

Public opinion is firmly behind the new home.


instead of building condos maybe a nursinghome should go there.....that's protection and convenience....

I cant afford your medicare and medicaid and you cant afford me.....


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Schenectady County cutting home’s costs
By Michael Lamendola

Early retirement bonus offered to long-term staff


GLENVILLE — Schenectady County officials continue to find ways to lower costs at the county-owned nursing home as they begin work on its $50.5 million replacement.

The work involves moving approximately 1,450 feet of Hetcheltown Road away from the current Glendale Home to make room for the new facility and making a new sewer connection.

The latest cost-cutting effort involves offering approximately 10 percent of unionized staff at Glendale an early retirement incentive, said County Attorney Chris Garner. The Schenectady County Legislature is expected to approve the proposal at its meeting tonight.

As outlined, the incentive would target full-time Glendale Home employees age 55 and older with at least 15 years of credited service with the county. The pool includes approximately 30 people in the following job classifications: assistant cook, cleaner, food service helper, diet technician, nursing assistant, stores clerk, supervising nurse, licensed practical nurse, maintenance worker, utility worker and laundry worker.

Employees who apply for the incentive between Oct. 1 and Dec. 31 would receive 15 percent of their 2011 base salary, Gardner said. He said the incentive would help accelerate employee turnover at Glendale; the rate there is 10 percent. The county would hire replacements at a salary and fringe-benefit rate that is approximately 20 percent to 50 percent less than the current employee rate, he said.

The savings are the result of a contract signed in July by the county and members of Local 1199, Service Employees International Union, at Glendale. For the first time, the contract established a two-tiered wage system for employees at the home. Starting Aug. 1, new employees are hired at a salary 10 percent lower than the current starting wage. New employees also join the new Tier V state retirement system, which provides additional savings to municipalities. Gardner said the system would save approximately $12,000 per new employee and approximately $1.2 million over three years.

The proposed retirement incentive was not part of the July contract package, Gardner said. He said the county developed the incentive afterwards. “After negotiations, we were looking at ways to get a quick cost savings,” he said.

Gardner said the county expects to recoup the cost of the retirement incentive within several months. The exact savings would depend on how many staff from which job classification take the incentive. The nursing home employs 270 people.

“We are trying to bend the cost curve and make the nursing home more competitive,” Gardner said......................>>>>.........................>>>>................................https://www.dailygazette.com/news/2011/sep/13/0913glendale/?mobile
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Sell the county nursing home  Neighboring counties are looking to privatize or provide other senior care options.


Again, it's about time the County gets out of the business of 'helping people'. Privatize this home, get competition going and you'll get more affordable, better quality living facilities. De-unionize the place and you'll save millions right there!

The State does not have the expertise (especially fiscally) on how to run this home.

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JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Employees who apply for the incentive between Oct. 1 and Dec. 31 would receive 15 percent of their 2011 base salary, Gardner said. He said the incentive would help accelerate employee turnover at Glendale; the rate there is 10 percent. The county would hire replacements at a salary and fringe-benefit rate that is approximately 20 percent to 50 percent less than the current employee rate, he said.

The savings are the result of a contract signed in July by the county and members of Local 1199, Service Employees International Union, at Glendale. For the first time, the contract established a two-tiered wage system for employees at the home. Starting Aug. 1, new employees are hired at a salary 10 percent lower than the current starting wage. New employees also join the new Tier V state retirement system, which provides additional savings to municipalities. Gardner said the system would save approximately $12,000 per new employee and approximately $1.2 million over three years.

So the bottom line is that it will be a wash no matter what tier they are in. Between the buy out, life time lucrative benefits and the cost and benefits of the 'new' hires will be a wash. No 'real' money saved! And remember there will be other lucrative contracts in the years coming.

Sell the beast and privatize it!!


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Again, it's about time the County gets out of the business of 'helping people'. Privatize this home, get competition going and you'll get more affordable, better quality living facilities. The State does not have the expertise (especially fiscally) on how to run this home.


The State has already warned County "leaders" that funding will be slashed. A few DEMS have made noises about another look with no follow through. Bosses want this for their unions-taxpayers go to hell. Montgomery and Fulton Counties are out of the nursing home business. Seniors are being well taken care of at private facilities with public reimbursements. County taxes are already 4X Saratoga without adding another $11 MILLION in property tax increases.
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The State has already warned County "leaders" that funding will be slashed. A few DEMS have made noises about another look with no follow through. Bosses want this for their unions-taxpayers go to hell. Montgomery and Fulton Counties are out of the nursing home business. Seniors are being well taken care of at private facilities with public reimbursements. County taxes are already 4X Saratoga without adding another $11 MILLION in property tax increases.


        Yeah, but benny, if you don't build the new home you won't be buying votes!  That's what Dems do, just like REMs, push the expenses on the taxpayers while pandering to small groups to "buy" their votes.  Same as EE handing out hang tags, I'll help you if you help me . . . .
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Agreed Avon this all about lob jobs. Why run for County Legislator if you can't give Cousin Vinny a job at the County Home? Cousin Vinny left for Saratoga.

     At some point fiscal reality should set in. The State has slashed all funding for this. We are number one in taxes for a reason. Other neighboring counties are out of the nursing home business. Mike Petta is urging another approach. The Gazetto is saying don't do this now. Holly Vellano wants the Legislature to reconsider. Where are the others? Judy D should act in the best interest of the County taxpayers and kill the bill.
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DVR, most of the city that use to be home to doctors, lawyers and GE executives are now section 8 rental property or vacant blight. Bellevue/mt pleasant was considered rural and home of hard working folks who chose to raise their family there. Hamilton Hill was also home to immigrant families that worked hard and raised their families. Linton and Mt. Pleasant was the school to die for!!! Now it's a school district that is avoided by young hard working families with children.

It really doesn't take a rocket scientist here to see that the city is nothing but a government hand out, cradle to grave welfare city. So yes....a county home is as needed just as the overflowing dss building is. This was created by the democons to dumb down the electorate! SUCCESS!


Mont Pleasant hasn't been rural for about 90 years --- but my great-grandfather's sister and brother-in-law used to have a small farm   (and even sold the "good stuff" during prohibition) somewhere  in the area between First and Third Avenue.


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Mont Pleasant hasn't been rural for about 90 years --- but my great-grandfather's sister and brother-in-law used to have a small farm   (and even sold the "good stuff" during prohibition) somewhere  in the area between First and Third Avenue.


Nobody cares.


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Quoted from AVON


        Yeah, but benny, if you don't build the new home you won't be buying votes!  That's what Dems do, just like REMs, push the expenses on the taxpayers while pandering to small groups to "buy" their votes.  Same as EE handing out hang tags, I'll help you if you help me . . . .


It's true!! It's never about the effect these things will have on the taxpayers....NEVER!! It's all about power and greed.


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The Republicans and Tea Partiers won't be satisfied until every elderly or sick or disabled person in America is set adrift on an iceberg.

Hubert Humphrey once said -- and I agree 1000% -- that the measure of a society is how it cares for the least powerful and most vulnerable persons in society.   Lets get rid of the tax loopholes for the millionaires and the subsidies for big corporations  .... and use those funds to ensure that public nursing homes and other facilities that care for the children, the disabled and the sick are able to continue to operate.


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