The new nursing home is necessary and will be built. Now let's move on and tackle the other big issues such as consolidating services and outright consolidating all the municipalities in the county into 1 City-County.
That won't happen either. The town folks won't let the misguided, financially irresponsible, corrupt city government use them as their new cash cow.
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That won't happen either. The town folks won't let the misguided, financially irresponsible, corrupt city government use them as their new cash cow.
The town folks may not have any choice -- if the Governor and State Legislature start mandating consolidation.
The first step is the property tax cap -- mark my words -- once it passes and takes effect ..... you will be seeing major changes in the way local governments and entities are organized and deliver services.
There is no way to keep tax increases to less than 2% without drastically cutting services and many of the services are mandated.
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The town folks may not have any choice -- if the Governor and State Legislature start mandating consolidation.
The first step is the property tax cap -- mark my words -- once it passes and takes effect ..... you will be seeing major changes in the way local governments and entities are organized and deliver services.
There is no way to keep tax increases to less than 2% without drastically cutting services and many of the services are mandated.
a tax cap is a JOKE and full of smoke to be used by the politicos to tout "we kept within the cap, vote for me".....it's a podium puck... they could go up every year for 4 years to the max cap....2 x 4=8.......no one gets an 8% wage increase over 4 years, unless you are a government worker.....
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County leaders insist on nursing home no matter the cost
Schenectady County has moved the site of its planned new Glendale Nursing Home from behind the existing home to the front, thus placating the neighbors who wanted to preserve an open field they use for walking, chatting and sledding. But for us, the main issue with the home isn’t where it is going to be built, but that it is going to be built. A new nursing home is likely to save some money by being more efficient than the old, outdated one. But even under the best of circumstances, staying in the nursing home business will continue to require a multimillion-dollar taxpayer subsidy each year. And if the state and federal government cut Medicaid to deal with their own huge deficits, as is likely, there’s no telling how heavy the burden will become. Yet the county leaders who have pushed so relentlessly for this home, without any real debate, go blithely along with their plans, which they revealed last week. One of their original justifi cations was that a new home would allow them to “rebase” and get increased reimbursements from the state. But the state changed the formula two years ago so that is no longer possible, and the leaders have stopped mentioning it. Their other justification is that the home is needed as a “safety net” for the poorest and hardest-to-carefor patients, who private homes supposedly don’t want. But most patients at private nursing homes in the county are on Medicaid, just like at Glendale. And as for the most diffi cult cases — the morbidly obese, Alzheimer’s and demented (who represent around 10 percent of the patient population at any given time) — it appears that the county intends to reduce their number anyway. To hold down costs and increase revenue, the leaders are now talking about changing the patient mix — i.e. taking fewer high-maintenance and poor patients, and more easierto-care-for patients with private insurance or their own money. The home would be built with private rooms and other amenities to attract these people. There is a better way than spending $51 million for a new nursing home, even if the state picks up 87 percent of the cost (that could change when Gov. Cuomo releases his budget Tuesday). And to continuing to subsidize the home’s big operating deficit (how big could also become clearer Tuesday). And to incurring new pension costs for workers at the home, whose powerful unions are apparently infl uencing the county leaders. ....................>>>>...................>>>>.................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00701&AppName=1
Bravo! Bravo! This taxpayer money pit must be stopped and DEM supporters thrown out of office. The DEMS think no one is watching. The timing on this is terrible. Start cutting costs not looking for more expenses. The editors destroy the "safety net" argument-most patients at every home are Medicaid patients. Then editors identify the only supporters-powerful unions influencing county "leaders".
Go the next step bring up how Fulton and Montgomery Counties have both privatized their County homes. Put the blame where it belongs on unpopular Landslide Savage who wants this Taj Mahal as the last vestige of her enlightened leadership.
DV and others have been cheerleaders for this nursing home because it would accept everyone. Well, not so fast, the Leg has decided they are going to 'cut down' on the harder to handle?!? They're calling this "changing the patient mix"...what that means is that not eveyone will be welcome. Therefore, a lifelong taxpayers of Schenectady County will be rejected if they have Alzheimers, are morbidly obese or dementia. Humm, seems like another nail in the taxpayers coffins.
Soooooooooooo the Glendale nursing home WILL be run just like a private nursing home. SO PRIVATIZE IT!!!
The government does not need to be in the nursing home business when there are private businesses available.
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C'mon BT that makes too much sense. It is better to slowly drain the sheeple taxpayers with a hundred cuts. All the green talk must be immediately chucked if it means offending the almighty CSEA.
We must follow fellow traveler's in Albany County who say build at any price? Remember that Landslide Savage "understands the importance of high taxes". The new County Home is headed for the ash heap of history. A growing coalition of media, fiscal CONS leaders, disgusted taxpayers and Glenville residents worried about a "sledding hill", must stop it.
DV and others have been cheerleaders for this nursing home because it would accept everyone. Well, not so fast, the Leg has decided they are going to 'cut down' on the harder to handle?!? They're calling this "changing the patient mix"...what that means is that not eveyone will be welcome. Therefore, a lifelong taxpayers of Schenectady County will be rejected if they have Alzheimers, are morbidly obese or dementia. Humm, seems like another nail in the taxpayers coffins.
Actually -- I need to correct your statement -- I supported the building of the new county nursing home WITHOUT any qualifications. I never said only because it would accept everyone. I still support building the new nursing home -- period.
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Of course you insist on going down in a flaming wreck.
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There is clearly no reason for a 'county nursing home' any longer.
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And as for the most difficult cases — the morbidly obese, Alzheimer’s and demented (who represent around 10 percent of the patient population at any given time) — it appears that the county intends to reduce their number anyway. To hold down costs and increase revenue, the leaders are now talking about changing the patient mix — i.e. taking fewer high-maintenance and poor patients, and more easierto-care-for patients with private insurance or their own money. The home would be built with private rooms and other amenities to attract these people.
This is what and why private nursing homes 'patient mix'. They are all mandated to reserve 10% of their beds for these 'difficult' cases/medicaid.
So I'm sure that there are better places to spend $51M of taxpayer's money..........OR.............not spend it at all!
Sell the damn thing!! I swear they don't have one full working brain between any of them.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I'd rather show that Schenectady County respects its elderly and sick citizens and is willing to provide a place for them when they and/or their families can no longer care for them at home.
It doesn't.
Under the new 'regulations' many Schenectady taxpayers will be turned away from this home, just like they would at a private home. Again, Schenectady LEG pulled yet another bait-and-switch on the public. They promised taxpayers a County home - but the new location will not accept many of those who provided large amounts of tax money for building it. Again, the County lied.
Stick a fork in this idiotic Savage proposal. The State reimbursement formula must be changed. Forget about the broke State paying 85% of these costs. The County can't afford it. This has always been about grease for the DEM machine not elder care. Landslide Savage keeps making a fool out of herself defending this waste of resources.
If built this will be a 30 year noose around the taxpayers neck. DEMS need to stop grumbling and pull the plug on this nonsense. There's a new coalition of the unwilling to pay forming.
Under the new 'regulations' many Schenectady taxpayers will be turned away from this home, just like they would at a private home. Again, Schenectady LEG pulled yet another bait-and-switch on the public. They promised taxpayers a County home - but the new location will not accept many of those who provided large amounts of tax money for building it. Again, the County lied.
many taxpayers(myself included) have no idea what the future of their winter years will bring.....it is not a bait and switch....they just removed the 'feel-good puck' from the podium....
1.we cant afford those who require 'more care' than their neighbor 2.we cant afford the future guarantees of the union contracts 3.they are following fed/state guidelines for population % mixes 4. the national healthcare/insurance battle will use this as fuel 5.and anyone who has a goal of using the facility of which their taxes paid for----plan plan plan
this is just like the REMS argument....after they soak the taxpayers for the $$ to build a new place for 'the folks' then they will claim it is unsustainable on the county level and sell it to a gumba to take 'the burden' off the taxpayers back.....you know...the 10year plan or 5 year plan, depending on who is lined up to be be the either savior/fall guy/gal........
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many taxpayers(myself included) have no idea what the future of their winter years will bring.....it is not a bait and switch....they just removed the 'feel-good puck' from the podium....
1.we cant afford those who require 'more care' than their neighbor.
Totally agree. Most of the support for this home (with the $50 million price tag) was from the older taxpayers. They felt a sense of comfort knowing they had a place, if need be, right in their backyard. Now, the County has changed their approach and decided to act like every other nursing home and cutting out those 'hard to handle' patients. So, County taxpayers are paying for this place, yet they might not be accepted in their later years?!
Privitize it. The County needs to get out of the nursing homes and the welfare business. Both are bankrupting our County and our State and the LEG has no clue what they're doing.
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Bravo! Bravo! This taxpayer money pit must be stopped and DEM supporters thrown out of office. The DEMS think no one is watching. The timing on this is terrible. Start cutting costs not looking for more expenses. The editors destroy the "safety net" argument-most patients at every home are Medicaid patients. Then editors identify the only supporters-powerful unions influencing county "leaders". 
