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I'd rather show that Schenectady County respects its elderly and sick citizens and is willing to provide a place for them when they and/or their families can no longer care for them at home.

Build the new nursing home.


I'm all in favor of a nursing home for the 'underserved'. However, it does NOT have to be government run with union government employees. It CAN be privatized and it should be.

The private nursing homes can be 'choosey' on who they accept and who they don't based on financial status. But no matter how you cut it.....the sate and federal government is in control. They set the guidelines and mandates and NYS has the toughest regulations in the country. Both for government or private run homes.

And the UNION is the biggest problem with the glendale home. Glendale's UNION employees receive higher pay and more lucrative benefits (at the taxpayer's expense) than private nursing homes. So kill the UNION (opps...hate speech again  ) and privatize a nursing home for the 'underserved'........k?


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[quote=6]

I'm all in favor of a nursing home for the 'underserved'. However, it does NOT have to be government run with union government employees. It CAN be privatized and it should be.

The private nursing homes can be 'choosey' on who they accept and who they don't based on financial status.[quote]


This is the question that needs to be answered.  Since the private nursing homes can be choosey based on financial status, what happens to the lower income people?  No government nursing home to care for them, and the private homes won't take them either.  

Then what?


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Quoted from mikechristine1
[quote=6]

I'm all in favor of a nursing home for the 'underserved'. However, it does NOT have to be government run with union government employees. It CAN be privatized and it should be.

The private nursing homes can be 'choosey' on who they accept and who they don't based on financial status.[quote]


This is the question that needs to be answered.  Since the private nursing homes can be choosey based on financial status, what happens to the lower income people?  No government nursing home to care for them, and the private homes won't take them either.  

Then what?


it REALLY IS 'survival/comfort' of the fittest....that IS who we are......I dont know any soft words for this.....it IS what happens to us
government building or not......it IS cheaper without government influence.....the problem is that we choose NOT to use our judicial
system on those who provide care on our 'underserved'(albeit their choice/ability) due to political assertions/affiliations/friendships etc...
I dont care, as I hope I will have the perfect healthcare proxy.....

advice: learn learn learn,,,,what happens when you get old and write the sh!t down!!!!!!!!



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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Quoted from mikechristine1
[quote=6]

I'm all in favor of a nursing home for the 'underserved'. However, it does NOT have to be government run with union government employees. It CAN be privatized and it should be.

The private nursing homes can be 'choosey' on who they accept and who they don't based on financial status.[quote]


This is the question that needs to be answered.  Since the private nursing homes can be choosey based on financial status, what happens to the lower income people?  No government nursing home to care for them, and the private homes won't take them either.  

Then what?


Hey....Glendale takes 'private pay' just like privates do. Don't think that the place is run solely for the 'underserved'...cause they are NOT!! There are private pay there also.

The point is.....there can be a privatized nursing home that functions the same way Glendale presently does. The difference..........no UNION!! No lucrative lifetime tax paid benefits. No state holidays off. It's the UNION that is the obstacle here.

The home, if privatized, would also eliminate a voter base and the shameful behavior of the elected officials for trying to politicize the issue.


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GLENVILLE
Glendale new site in front of current facility $51 million center to open in 2013

BY MICHAEL LAMENDOLA Gazette Reporter

    Schenectady County plans to construct a 200-bed skilled nursing home in front of the Glendale Home on Hetcheltown Road, acquiescing to a public outcry that the county preserve adjacent open space containing fields and a popular sledding hill.
    The new facility’s estimated cost is $51 million and it is projected to open October 2013. The county will demolish the Glendale Home after the new facility opens.
    County offi cials outlined a conceptual plan for the facility at a public hearing Wednesday night at Glendale. Approximately 200 people attended, including neighbors of the nursing home who did not want to see a new facility built on county-owned land they use for recreation and view as ecologically important.
    Glenville Supervisor Chris Koetzle said he was pleased with the proposal. “We asked them to keep it in Glenville and to build on the current footprint. We are happy at what we are seeing now,” he said.
    Koetzle said the town wanted the nursing home to remain in Glenville because the nursing home has a staff of approximately 230. “It is important because of the jobs. The people who work there come into the town and spend their money here,” he said.
    One speaker, Jason Planck, an advocate for the disabled, chastised the county for not putting more money into programs that allow the elderly and disabled to remain in their homes, rather than have to seek out more expensive nursing home care.
    Another woman criticized the county for not having a site plan for the project in place before authorizing a bond for $50 million, while another said the county needed to be prodded before holding a public hearing outlining the plans.
    Dr. Brian Gordon, D-Niskayuna, a member of the county Legislature’s Human Services and Aging Subcommittee, responded that not everyone can convalesce at home and that “we need to have the ability to have a resource like Glendale to take care of people.”
    Several speakers praised the county for moving ahead with construction of a new nursing home and said that residents would benefi t from the new design, which puts people into a residential setting.
    The county Legislature has authorized bonding of up to $50.5 million for the project, and county officials hope to keep within this figure. The county expects to recoup the cost of construction through enhanced Medicaid reimbursements.
    The state Department of Health has to approve designs before the county can go out to bid on the project. County offi cials hope to obtain fi nal county Legislature approval to go out to bid in April or May, with full-scale construction in 2012.
    The construction plan calls for moving approximately 1,450 feet of Hetcheltown Road away from the nursing home to make room for the new facility. In this way, the county can build the new facility without having to demolish the old facility fi rst.
    Schenectady County wants to build a new nursing home because Glendale is obsolete. It consists of a series of buildings, some constructed decades ago, some without their own heating and cooling plants.
    The county is pushing ahead with plans to replace Glendale even though changes in the state reimbursement system for nursing home operations will likely increase the costs, rather than lower them as county officials had once hoped.
    Schenectady is paying $4 million to subsidize Glendale’s operations this year, double the amount taxpayers paid in 2010. In past years, the subsidy has topped $7 million. The facility’s annual budget is nearly $30 million. The subsidy comes from the county property tax levy, which totals $64.4 million this year. ....................>>>>...............>>>>.............http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00100&AppName=1
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Patients who are first admitted to the Glendale home and who have funds saved are treated as someone entering a private nursing home until their money runs out then the Glendale home accepts just Medicare as payment. At $9,000 a month it doesn't take long to deplete the money they saved.
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This proves again what a liar Landslide Savage is. When she was running she tried to trick the Glenville voters by saying it would be built elsewhere. Now that the results are in and she got crushed in Glenville {like the rest of her district} she flip flops again.

     Of course there must be a safety net but this backarsed County gets the bonds first then comes up with secret plans. We should be following Fulton and Montgomery Counties in privatizing this. With the State slashing payments the oppressed County sheeple will holding the whole bag for this. Gordon, Finn and Landslide will all be held accountable at the polls.
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She is full of it! "Some community members are concerned about where their tax money is going." And the others are morons that like paying the highest County taxes in the Nation.

     This was a typical Landslide Savage DEM dog and pony show. She refuses to listen and will slam this into Glenville. Typical Gazetto that misquoted Jason Plank making the opposition seem like proponents. People are concerned about the exploding costs and fact that State aid will be cut. Landslide's figures never add up.
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I like Mrs. Savage .. but I would have had to have heard the plan from Tina Turner to get all tingly inside.
No offense Mrs. Savage.


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take a stand - DVOR

privatize or county(public) nursing home
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What plan? She won't disclose the total price tag. Who's the developer? Can we guess? Her comments were hilarious. Schenectady County cannot afford to be a dumping grounds for indigents from other countries or the Bronx. They all did not work nor pay taxes here and she knows it. The whole is a farce and the Gazetto pretends its some serious plan.

     Of course this should be privatized. As Fulton County has done. As Montgomery County has done. But when it's privatized there's no grease from dozens of entities. A DEM machine grinds to a halt without grease.
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Quoted from littlesal
take a stand - DVOR

privatize or county(public) nursing home


I have been consistently and clearly in favor of building a new county nursing home.  My opinion has not changed on the subject.


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I have been consistently and clearly in favor of building a new county nursing home.  My opinion has not changed on the subject.


if plans fall through in glenville would you put a county home in rotterdam?
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if plans fall through in glenville would you put a county home in rotterdam?


There ARE no plans in Glenville.
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