it is each of our responsibility to plan for our debilitating years.....that goes beyond retirement......and even if we have to fork over that $$ to our loved ones taking care of us to 'replace' their lost income for leaving work to care for us......I would emphatically state that probably 80% of the time it would be the woman........again a strangeness in our system........
Are you ready to clean out catheters, are you ready to wipe your mother's butt, are you ready to take some heavy duty nursing classes and learn how to pack deep wounds, but the hospital bed, are you ready for you and your spouse to each quit you jobs because it will take two people to move the dead weight of the elderly parent who's sliding down the bed.
Now, tell us, you can quit your job, mom and/or dad can pay you from their savings, but if their savings are only say $200,000, how long do you think their money is going to last when you have to replace your income, your spouse's income, you have to shell out $20,000 year for health insurance, you are trying to pay tuition for your kids' colleges, and when you quit your job, parents' money runs out, and the economy has tanked, what are you going to do to support yourself and your parent(s). Are you prepared to lose your house and not have any retirement plan to support yourself in retirement?
I understand your point, 50 years ago, people did have elderly parents with them and with a large family living local, it was easy, because everyone shared in the responsibilit, no one had to quit their jobs because generally women were housewives. And if the cost was split among the 8 children, no one was that overburdened financially.
But today mom and dad might have had 2 or 3 kids. Two are probably living half way across the country, and even without wanting to leave the family or the state, they had to go where the job went. So that leaves probably one kid to take care of parent(s).
Years ago there wasn't the highly skilled medical treatment done as a routine today----but that care has to be done by medical personnel, why do you think they call them SKILLED nursing facilities. I guess when your parents are old, you'll have them with you, if they get cancer, you won't bother with any treatment, if kidney's fail you'll just ignore any treatment, etc., you'll do what you can as a lay person, right?
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
I am a nurse and I do all that 5 days a week.......I love the elderly and alot of what I do IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.....honestly......nursing historically has been a woman's profession.....because historically women 'took care' of EVERYONE in the family.....now that women work a giant gap is left.... and now that there are 'medical advances' folks have so called options(right or wrong or ill timed)......old folks are not seen in the home anymore as a NORMAL part of life......there's a whole generation that has lacked the grace to get old and the next generation is even worse...... and when my parent are old they will have a living will with their choices and decisions as to their wishes.....as you should also..... as a lay person the medical stuff can be taught if one is willing to learn......most of my time is spent placating family and reassuring them that---- THIS IS THE AGING PROCESS......I have lived among the aging process for 20years and the rest of society should too it would take the shock and awe out of it........JMHO
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I am a nurse and I do all that 5 days a week.......I love the elderly and alot of what I do IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.....
Thank you for informing us all that nurses no longer need an education. Close down all the nursing schools, the average person can learn all the medical stuff without any education. When wounds are tunneling to the bone of some elderly person, agh, no medical knowledge, no knowledge of biology, anatomy, physiology, chemistry, etc is needed. Little forgetfulness in the adult, agh, just a little mental block, a moment of brain freeze, couldn't possibly be a blood clot, right?
So, you can quit your job because nurses are no longer needed, lay people without nursing degrees can take care of people, heck, let's close hospitals too, just boil some water and stick a steak knife in it and you can scrape out the infections, huh?
Again, after mom and dad's money is all used up paying your mortgage, your utilities, food, your medical bills, and your kids tuition because you gave up your job, then what happens? Mom and dad's house was sold to pay you to take care of them, now their retirement savings is gone, you still have 15 years to pay on your mortgage and mom and dad are broke. Now what? You are supposed to lose your house too and then not be able to get a job in this economy....all because you think we should not allow poor people go into nursing homes?
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
I like the editorial comment, except for the fact that it's not going to fall on Mrs. Johnson. She doesn't represent the district that it would be moved from or to. She represents the city and works for Proctors, if I remember correctly. It will be us that this (and it's costs) fall on.
I like the editorial comment, except for the fact that it's not going to fall on Mrs. Johnson. She doesn't represent the district that it would be moved from or to. She represents the city and works for Proctors, if I remember correctly. It will be us that this (and it's costs) fall on.
The cost to build the new nursing home will "fall on" the whole county and not just the municipality in which it is built.
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Thank you for informing us all that nurses no longer need an education. Close down all the nursing schools, the average person can learn all the medical stuff without any education. When wounds are tunneling to the bone of some elderly person, agh, no medical knowledge, no knowledge of biology, anatomy, physiology, chemistry, etc is needed. Little forgetfulness in the adult, agh, just a little mental block, a moment of brain freeze, couldn't possibly be a blood clot, right?
So, you can quit your job because nurses are no longer needed, lay people without nursing degrees can take care of people, heck, let's close hospitals too, just boil some water and stick a steak knife in it and you can scrape out the infections, huh?
Again, after mom and dad's money is all used up paying your mortgage, your utilities, food, your medical bills, and your kids tuition because you gave up your job, then what happens? Mom and dad's house was sold to pay you to take care of them, now their retirement savings is gone, you still have 15 years to pay on your mortgage and mom and dad are broke. Now what? You are supposed to lose your house too and then not be able to get a job in this economy....all because you think we should not allow poor people go into nursing homes?
what I am saying is that the public as a whole lacks the interaction and common sense for elder care.....can it get dicey sure.....but most of what happens in nursing homes are what can be done at home.....
I believe that most times 'rich folks' with the $$ can pay for that easing of burden of care.....it appears that they have 'the right to it' when in fact everyone does when planned for and actually seen in real life........the burden of care feels different for everyone.....I will be a 'burden' someday too as will you....but how much is a personal responsibility......society needs to decide....it's like daycare....the cost was going up and up and up.....more women working full time,,,so now it's susidized under the guise of full-day kindergarten......I am not blaming anyone personally but it has definitely become a system of paying for others to do it for us(needed or not)... "poor folks" are taking care of their elderly because they choose not to be the Hiltons......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
what I am saying is that the public as a whole lacks the interaction and common sense for elder care.....can it get dicey sure.....but most of what happens in nursing homes are what can be done at home.....
I believe that most times 'rich folks' with the $$ can pay for that easing of burden of care.....it appears that they have 'the right to it' when in fact everyone does when planned for and actually seen in real life........the burden of care feels different for everyone.....I will be a 'burden' someday too as will you....but how much is a personal responsibility......society needs to decide....it's like daycare....the cost was going up and up and up.....more women working full time,,,so now it's susidized under the guise of full-day kindergarten......I am not blaming anyone personally but it has definitely become a system of paying for others to do it for us(needed or not)... "poor folks" are taking care of their elderly because they choose not to be the Hiltons......
So, nursing homes can layoff all RNs and LPN's and live with just aides and lay people????
And again, tell me what happens when you quit your job to stay home to take care of mom and dad, mom and dad's savings pays your mortgage, your utilities, your food, your clothes, your kids college, your car payment, your gas, your car insurance, oh yeah---your heatlh insurance premium which will be the FULL cost, etc.
Tell me what happens after mom and dad's money is gone.....how will you pay your mortgage? Mom, dad, you, your spouse and kids will be homeless because you won't have any more income. Are you prepared to live on the street?
Now, also tell me, there are many elderly people have elderly parents. Do you expect some 70 year old to take care of 90 yr old mom?
Yes, years ago parents lived with their kids and they just died. Have a heart attack, there was never any of these heart catherizations, etc. So, I guess you are saying that the elderly should live at home and not have any medical treatment that has been provided thanks to advances in the medical fields. The elderly should just be left to be bed bound because we musn't do knee replacements or hip replacements. We musn't do any heart bypass surgery, it's better just to not even give them any prescriptions either, just let them die. I have an idea. Let's feed them lots of fattening foods and speed up their deaths. For shame a person live to be 90 and need medical care.
No need for nursing homes Shut down the nursing schools Might as well close hospitals
Lay people can take care of other's medical needs, and if you puke on the 3 inch deep bed sore wound on dad's butt and it makes it worse, oh well. Remember, any lay person has the biological, anatomical, physiiology knowledge to properly care for a septic wound.
What is the purpose of a nursing education?
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
It is time, OVERTIME.............Glendale home has got to be privatized. Schenectady county can not afford it any more!!!! And if everyone notices, the words GLENDALE NURSING HOME has not come out of Susan Savage's mouth. She knows damn well that it would just be one more issue to NOT vote for her!
Albany county wants no part of teaming up with schenectady and surrounding counties have been SMART enough to privatize theirs. Only in Schenectady county!!!
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So, nursing homes can layoff all RNs and LPN's and live with just aides and lay people????
And again, tell me what happens when you quit your job to stay home to take care of mom and dad, mom and dad's savings pays your mortgage, your utilities, your food, your clothes, your kids college, your car payment, your gas, your car insurance, oh yeah---your heatlh insurance premium which will be the FULL cost, etc.
Tell me what happens after mom and dad's money is gone.....how will you pay your mortgage? Mom, dad, you, your spouse and kids will be homeless because you won't have any more income. Are you prepared to live on the street?
Now, also tell me, there are many elderly people have elderly parents. Do you expect some 70 year old to take care of 90 yr old mom?
Yes, years ago parents lived with their kids and they just died. Have a heart attack, there was never any of these heart catherizations, etc. So, I guess you are saying that the elderly should live at home and not have any medical treatment that has been provided thanks to advances in the medical fields. The elderly should just be left to be bed bound because we musn't do knee replacements or hip replacements. We musn't do any heart bypass surgery, it's better just to not even give them any prescriptions either, just let them die. I have an idea. Let's feed them lots of fattening foods and speed up their deaths. For shame a person live to be 90 and need medical care.
No need for nursing homes Shut down the nursing schools Might as well close hospitals
Lay people can take care of other's medical needs, and if you puke on the 3 inch deep bed sore wound on dad's butt and it makes it worse, oh well. Remember, any lay person has the biological, anatomical, physiiology knowledge to properly care for a septic wound.
What is the purpose of a nursing education?
the average life stay at a nursing home is 3-4years.......I am not saying it for the elderly now....I am saying it for those that WILL become elder.....the reason I am saying this is that we need to look at ourselves as elder......I dont want any podium puck politician to dictate my 'poor elderly' status....
with or without a 'poor elderly' status it is one's choice to end up where they end up.....there is nothing wrong with the care of family members....I'm not sure where that came from other than General Hospital and the likes on TV.....is it hard----you betcha...... it is more emotional for the family because they think they have to do this and get them that and maybe they wont get old.....facilities have now become 'rehab'/'memory care' facilities........it's close to an oxymoron to use those titles........I'm not pointing fingers here... I just want to the public to SEE/HEAR elderlife and their own future and plan for it.......it's not rocket science and it looks that way because in the nursing home there are ratios of 6:40.....and the inability for the body to move fast or well makes the volume of care difficult.......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
If you call the way some of those poor people are living a good quality of life then I don't want any part of a nursing home. I've been taking care of my Mom since my Dad died in 1994 and yes it sure puts a damper on many of the things that I would like to do. Since there is no one else to take care of her it's my responsibility to do so to the best of my ability. I do have some medical knowledge and that makes it easier for me to care for her and if it wasn't for the help of my wife I wouldn't be able to do it. The real problem is when the government is involved in running anything the cost is always too high and the quality is always too low and it's very inefficient with money being wasted and the costs are always passed on to the taxpayer.
If you call the way some of those poor people are living a good quality of life then I don't want any part of a nursing home. I've been taking care of my Mom since my Dad died in 1994 and yes it sure puts a damper on many of the things that I would like to do. Since there is no one else to take care of her it's my responsibility to do so to the best of my ability. I do have some medical knowledge and that makes it easier for me to care for her and if it wasn't for the help of my wife I wouldn't be able to do it. The real problem is when the government is involved in running anything the cost is always too high and the quality is always too low and it's very inefficient with money being wasted and the costs are always passed on to the taxpayer.
That's what I'm talking about....no it's not easy and it's not perfect and that's OK.......your relatives love you just the same......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
True, but it does put the cost of the fact that no new TAXABLE property can be built on the same property to the municipality where it is built.
and we can't build much on that site -- due to the deed restrictions placed on it -- except for a municipal center or town facility (which would be tax exempt) or apartments (which so many of the posters in here claim that we have too many of .. and then storm the Town Board meetings to oppose the building of new apartments)
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what is this "we" crap dvor - are you doing the funding, digging, painting, building..?????
your admin stopped progess on the curry road site from day one of taking office. simply because it wasnt part of the dem machines plan.
county run nursing home on curry road? and county consilidated dispatch and offices on hamburg in old grand union?? that takes alot of property off of tax rolls.......
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