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The state did a study on nursing home and hospital beds (The Berger Commission) .. so there is no need to reestudy the isue. There was some talk a couple of years ago about Schenectady and Albany Counties doing something together about a new nursing home -- not sure what became of those talks. If Schenectady County could work together with Montgomery or any other neighboring county to build a new nursing home .. that would be great. Bottomline -- Schenectady County needs a new nursing home to replace the existing one .. so we need to make a decision soon so that we can break ground next spring or summer .. and if the county wants to build it in Rotterdam at the old Curry Rd Plaza or any other place in Rotterdam .. I would support that 1000%.
If you think this is such a good idea, then when this does occur (we know it will with those in charge at the moment), I will expect you to give up to the amount that you are making off off the taxpayers to pay the residents back in the amount that this change will affect us...at 10 times the cost to each taxpayer (that, there, would be you showing your "1000% support." |
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Montgomery County is out of the nursing home business-they have privatized it like Schenectady County should have done years ago. The State wanted a lower bed count and this County fought it. They refused to listen to State experts. Albany County also is exploring other options and will do nothing with us. Schenectady County is know as the worst managed County Upstate, with the highest tax burden. There is a reason the County and City deficits are exploding. The same tax and spend morons are running both. They don't get that when you lower property taxes on a favored business, others have to pick up the slack. The Curry Rd site must remain on the town tax rolls. With the heavy traffic on Curry Rd this is a totally inappropriate for a nursing home. There is no rush to build anything. St Claire's is the best site, centrally located, near Ellis with ample parking. |
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I agree....curry rd should stay on the tax rolls. AND privatize the county home beast! Private nursing homes all over the county are adding on. AND they are not using taxpayer's money. Only in schenectady county, with the highest tax burden, do they not only want to continue to fund a government nursing home....but they want to build a NEW one when they already had an existing building....st. clares! And Susan Savage wants to spend even more taxpayer's money as a senator???? OMG!!! |
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There was another DEM moron years back that wanted a new Post Office on Curry Road. They don't get it. That is prime commercial/industrial land. You never take it off the town tax rolls. Curry Road Plaza should be a new technology/industrial park. Forget about retail. The home of many new jobs and relief for the overburdened Rotterdam home owner. |
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If you think this is such a good idea, then when this does occur (we know it will with those in charge at the moment), I will expect you to give up to the amount that you are making off off the taxpayers to pay the residents back in the amount that this change will affect us...at 10 times the cost to each taxpayer (that, there, would be you showing your "1000% support."
#1) I am not making a dime off the backs of any taxpayers #2) anything I have done in Rotterdam (25A Study Commission, Parks Commission, BOA Study Committee).. I have done on a volunteer basis .. if fact, all the cost of the Parks Commission (mailings, supplies, etc.) has come out of my pocket except for $10 that donated by a resident who appreciated the work that our Commission was doing #3) you just don't seem to get the FACT -- that we don't have too many options as to what CAN be built on the Curry Road Plaza site -- there were many restrictions placed on it when it was given as a "gift" to the town (which by the way, I spoke publicly against the town taking title to the property with those restrictions .. so don't blame me for them) -- argue with the facts as they are .. and not what you wish they could be |
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maybe the town should revisit the 'restrictions' made by the gumbas.......FIX IT YOU FOOLS.......the berger commision probably didn't take into account the national healthcare coming down the tracks in it's full force......the easiest way to 'unload' nursing homes is to make sure no one gets there.....how? yup....value them, number them and weigh them out......boomers, xgens, ygens and the rest........so many have gone 'rehab'....... |
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Question for all.
If there is no county nursing home, what would you do with the poor elderly who are in need of skilled nursing care? Where would put them if there is no county nursing home? What is your suggested solution? |
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Put the nursing home where ever you can just make it a private business and not a tax sucking parasitic entity forever. |
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Put the nursing home where ever you can just make it a private business and not a tax sucking parasitic entity forever.
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Question for all.
If there is no county nursing home, what would you do with the poor elderly who are in need of skilled nursing care? Where would put them if there is no county nursing home? What is your suggested solution?
what do you think?.....as for poor elderly there are some that really aren't poor but decided to hand it over to the kids so that damn nursing home wouldn't get it.....I say pay what you can and suck the teet later..... who draws the line for 'poor'....... |
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what do you think?.....as for poor elderly there are some that really aren't poor but decided to hand it over to the kids so that damn nursing home wouldn't get it.....I say pay what you can and suck the teet later.....
who draws the line for 'poor'.......
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Put the nursing home where ever you can just make it a private business and not a tax sucking parasitic entity forever.
I'll second (or third) that. The only problem with doing something like that is that you have to get the County Legislature to agree to change the County Charter, as there is a section regarding the nursing home being run by the county. |
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We can only hope that the facility is sold to a private health-care facility and then the clause would be null and void. The county isn't doing such a great job of running the nursing home anyway. Their rating from the state is not good, expensive to keep anyone in the facility unless you're poor and then they don't want you. A neighbor is in Glendale right now and it costs $9,000 per month for her care. |
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If nursing homes weren't so heavily regulated by NYS, private nursing homes would most likely be built in the area where patients were being shipped 100 miles away, to an available bed. If there is a demand, somebody will build the supply. It's BS that we need the county home to keep the elderly local. How about Metroplex greases the owner of Kingsway to purchase the County home? |
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There needs to be a county home. End of argument. What are you all thinking? Wait until it is you and you need a a place and they send you to to some despicable place far away. The elderly deserve care and the chance to die with dignity. Let's hope it is not YOUR mother who cannot return to her home after some devastating illness or event. |
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