Bravo to the Gazetto for finally saying what many have been saying for months, we cannot afford to build a new County Home. Why don't you mention Montgomery County? They wisely got out of the nursing home business. But they are not "led" by SS Savage and her rubber stamps.

      Van Earden's shouldn't have to waste time responding to a paid political hack letter. It's a bad idea, bad location and no one can afford it-end of story. You beat the machine. Still waiting for Rotterdam to find a voice against the idiotic Savage proposal to build a new County Home on Curry Rd. Permanent taking acres of prime commercial property of the town tax rolls. Can you afford it?

Even Washington County is looking to hire a service to evaluate the need for nursing homes in their  county. In Schenectady, there seems to be no stopping the free flowing faucet of taxpayer money into poorly planned and fiscally damaging projects.

http://www.poststar.com/news/local/article_d8045afc-bcba-11df-92fl-001cc4c002e0.html  

THe only thing is, if there is no county nursing home, where to the poor people who are elderly and need nursing home care go?  

And as far as these studies for needing nursing homes, well, why is a study needed, at whatever expense?   Just look at the people who are shipped off 100 miles away because there are no beds available locally.

WE need county nursing homes in Schenectady and Albany.

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And as far as these studies for needing nursing homes, well, why is a study needed, at whatever expense?   Just look at the people who are shipped off 100 miles away because there are no beds available locally.

You just answered your own question. A study is needed so that the County knows how great (or not so great) the need is for their particular county. Do you really think your legislators are educated
in needs of the elderly? I don't. Knee-jerk decisions aren't exactly the best plans.

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WE need county nursing homes in Schenectady and Albany.

We have county nursing homes in both counties. How about consolidating and building a new home for both counties in Colonie? This could never happen because it's all about patronage, grease and never about the needs of the elderly. When even the Gazetto says this is a bad idea -it's all over.

Yes we do.  So let's not close them.

Quoted from 612

WE need county nursing homes in Schenectady and Albany.

It's funny, I think that if the past administration (Tommasone, et. al.) we still in power, this would be a closed issue as they day they asked, the ground would most likely be broken.  The fact is, they have, with their time in office, pushed us greatly in that direction.  In fact, it seems as though they wanted us to have it all along.  There are MANY multiple-family residential housing units that were allowed under that administration, many of which were to be for seniors.  I can think immediately that there is one on Princetown Road (over towards Putnam Road) and one on Curry Road down toward Fort Hunter.  I believe these were both brought in under that administration...but these are PRIVATE firms.  We need them to be private, not public.  Isn't that what the entire Curry Road Shopping Center is supposed to turn into?

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.  I believe these were both brought in under that administration...but these are PRIVATE firms.  We need them to be private, not public.  Isn't that what the entire Curry Road Shopping Center is supposed to turn into?

But those are senior apartments, people who can get around, these are not nursing homes.  The baby boom generation is nearing the start of nursing home needs.  We hear that instead of nursing homes, keep them in their homes.  But, their grown children are trying to raise and support their own family unit and children, trying to save for their kids college and their own retirement.  And they are working, so they can't quiet their jobs and stay home with elderly parents.  

A visiting nurse?  HA.  Try gettting medicare to pay for that.    My uncle had surgery, medicare discharged him after three days to be home alone and would only pay for three visits by the nurse to check the incision location, change bandage, etc.  Fortunately his granddaughter was unemployed at the time and was able to change the bandages.

WOuld you put an elderly parent who can't take care of themselves, has trouble walking, is wobbly, etc, in an apartment and alone for even one short minute?   It's just like a child, you can turn your head for a moment, run in the house to grab the phone, and your child could fall, or get in that pool aned drown, or be snatched from you in the store.  While no one can really steal your parent from you, you  parent can fall and injure themselves very bad just going to the bathroom.  All you need is for an elderly person, who feels cold, to turn on the stove, heat up some water lets say for tea, and then think they turned it off because they can't see the flame, but the gas is filling the house.  

All you need is for some aide to come in and help while you are at work, and the aide rummages through your  house, takes stuff, and who knows what.  

Even people employed by reputable agencies can do dirty work.  WOuld you even take a chance?  

With national healthcare coming like a freight train down the tracks and a GIANT aging population and the government currently performing a 'shakedown' of private homes to feed the national healthcare monster to make it more palatable when it's jammed down our throats.....does anyone think that it
is wise to have government run facilities? All these senior housing facilities going up can be quickly turned into 'nursing home' material.....only the
big government that everyone is crying to will manage it from the outside.....no aides in your home but there can/will be aides in these housing facilities...
the regs WILL evaluate and value and number us......

I am still in shock at the generation that fought big government is helping to make it big right before their very eyes.......

The state has dictated to the county to lower it's bed count. While at the same time they are mandating additional medicaid beds at private nursing homes. So what is their end result? Perhaps the state wants it all to be privatized at some time in the future.

This would be the perfect time for schenectady county to see about unloading this beast to a private entity.

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The state has dictated to the county to lower it's bed count. While at the same time they are mandating additional medicaid beds at private nursing homes. So what is their end result? Perhaps the state wants it all to be privatized at some time in the future.

This would be the perfect time for schenectady county to see about unloading this beast to a private entity.

no.....they are losing their $$ from the Feds right now.......and the county doesn't want to pick up.....it's a snowball.....it's a shakedown
tear down......those in now will become nothing more than government robots......private in name only.......shame shame shame
sham sham sham......

MDS evals/language/ratings are being pushed HARD....VERY VERY HARD......it's the cash cow and it's government.......

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Nursing home’s foes are only opposed to the Glenville location

    I have great news for Karie Nasser (Sept. 3, “Arguments against nursing home on Hetcheltown insulting,”) and Lori LaSalvia (Sept. 8. “Nursing home opposition motivated by selfishness”): You needn’t be ashamed any more.
    No one in Glenville has any lack of sensitivity to the welfare of the elderly. We have been the proud host of the Glendale Nursing home for many decades and would continue to be if it were our choice. The objections raised to the destruction of greenspace in the Glendale neighborhood have never been, in any way, to deny services to the elderly.
    I can see how one could get a wrong impression. We are not trained public relations people and may have given wrong impressions in our letters.
    But the objections have not been to elder care. They have been to: 1) the choice of the field with no discussion of options. Suggestions have been met with vague statements or outright dismissal. 2) The closed, secretive process. Over a year after a $50 million bond authorization was passed, surveyors’ stakes just appeared in the field. There has been no discussions with the Glenville Town Board, zoning board, planning committee, etc. 3) The lack of credibility by our elected offi cials.
    At the August county Legislature meeting [Chairwoman] Susan Savage looked us all in the eye and pleaded that there was no plan to build in the field. Reports from other sources in the county government ranged from, “It’s too late, they breaking ground next month,” to “I have not been informed that they have hired an architect.”
    Finally, I must comment on the tone of the criticism of myself and my neighbors. Many of those objecting are seniors, who have lived long enough to see one too many open spaces bulldozed over. At 54 years old, I am in the junior half of those who have objected to this plan. And “not in my backyard” isn’t really fair: There are only about 25 houses bordering the fi eld, but over 300 signatures were gathered opposing building on this site.
    As to my “meticulously landscaped lawn,” Ms. LaSalvia, stop by 18 Cedar Lane some time, and judge for yourself whether this is an accurate characterization.

    NORMAN PERAZZO
    Scotia

http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00703&AppName=1

Both the nursing home and SS Savage's political career are going down in flames. Time for another weenie roast! Let's see how many morons she can get to hijack the CONS line.

The state did a study on nursing home and hospital beds (The Berger Commission) .. so there
is no need to reestudy the isue.
There was some talk a couple of years ago about Schenectady and Albany Counties doing
something together about a new nursing home -- not sure what became of those talks.
If Schenectady County could work together with Montgomery or any other neighboring county
to build a new nursing home .. that would be great.
Bottomline -- Schenectady County needs a new nursing home to replace the existing one .. so
we need to make a decision soon so that we can break ground next spring or summer .. and
if the county wants to build it in Rotterdam at the old Curry Rd Plaza or any other place in
Rotterdam  ..  I would support that 1000%.