why do you hate your grandparents and the parents of us so much? How sad.
This is the typical rubbish you get from the Krats. I took care of my grandparents, like others on this Board. I'm sick and tired of people that refuse to take care of their own and want the government i.e. (other Taxpayers) to pay for them. People that worked for a town have excellent retirement and health coverage. Use it for decent care. The County Home is the lowest rated in the State.
That's why we are in this mess. Idiots like Sal are running this County. This senior should have gone to Baptist which is also in Glenville. The letter is a phony plant. Nothing will change until a REP sweep in Nov.
Sal is rite. He is a wise man who cares about our seniors. You repubs are all about the money. Screw the people. And, that the school should take that property for the new bus garage for the public good.
Don't know how this thread devolved to a discussion about the Mohonassen bus garage, but the application of eminent domain in this instance is, IMHO, an abuse of governmental power. The school board should consider making the current property owners a reasonable offer to purchase the subject lands or find another location at which to construct the bus garage. There is no requirement for the bus garage site to be adjacent to the school property.
Glendale has unused empty beds.....a facility gets approved for max number of beds....whether or not a facility can fill them is different.....there are beds that can not be used due to closed out dated units.....unsafe for occupancy.......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
SCHENECTADY COUNTY Grant to help reduce home’s beds Facility ordered to be downsized BY MICHAEL LAMENDOLA Gazette Reporter
The state will provide Schenectady County with $3 million to help defray costs to downsize Glendale Home to 200 beds by the end of the year. The $3 million is separate from the county’s plans to build a new 200-bed facility by 2011. County leaders said the state Department of Health approved the $3 million grant last month. The money will help the county comply with mandates of the Commission on Health Care Facilities in the 21st Century, also known as the Berger Commission. Schenectady County Legislator Brian Gordon, D-Niskayuna, said the grant will offset costs the county would have had to absorb itself in meeting the mandate. The county-owned nursing home has 210 certified beds, down from its one-time high of 528 beds. “As Glendale downsizes, we will lose more money initially until fixed costs come back into line with the census population,” Gordon said. County Manager Kathleen Rooney, in a memo to county legislators, said the county still has to pay costs associated with staffi ng and maintaining skilled nursing units at Glendale until residents of that unit are relocated. But now the grant will cover these transitional expenses. Gordon called the $3 million grant “a bridge until we can achieve equilibrium. This will help defray the county’s expenditures for Glendale and as a result will help defray taxpayers’ expenses.” County Attorney Chris Gardner said $1.4 million of the grant will be used to cover retiree health insurance and $1.4 million for nurse staffing. To downsize Glendale, the county is closing beds as they become vacant, Gordon said. “We are not transferring patients to other facilities to downsize. We are just closing vacant beds,” he said. The county is also reducing staff at Glendale through attrition to match its census, Gordon said. The number of employees at the facility is now about 230. The county received approval from the state in December to build a $51 million, 200-bed nursing home to replace Glendale, considered obsolete. The county ............http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....amp;EntityId=Ar00904
Thank you demos for standing up for the seniors and gettiong it for free to. We dont even have to pay for the home and still the repubs hate the seniors so much that they would turn against the money and the home even if itwas free. Sad isnt this people?
This is the typical rubbish you get from the Krats. I took care of my grandparents, like others on this Board. I'm sick and tired of people that refuse to take care of their own and want the government i.e. (other Taxpayers) to pay for them. People that worked for a town have excellent retirement and health coverage. Use it for decent care. The County Home is the lowest rated in the State.
That's why we are in this mess. Idiots like Sal are running this County. This senior should have gone to Baptist which is also in Glenville. The letter is a phony plant. Nothing will change until a REP sweep in Nov.
Children and grandchildren can't necessarily take care of the elders. How? Bring mom or dad into your house and then what? Quit your job to stay home and take care of her/him/them? And how do you pay your bills then without a job?
The My sister-in-law's grandma never worked. Her husband was long gone. She had three children each who died. The grandma did go into Glendale eventually. No other nursing home would take her, her only income was from her husband's social security.
Now, you think government retirees have such lucrative health coverage? What planet are you on? Retirees have no nursing home coverage whatsoever!
Once you turn 65 you MUST enroll in medicare and medicare MUST pay first. So, here is an excerpt from the plan book for state retirees and this plan is offered in many counties and municipalities:
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"If Medicare is your primary coverage, the Empire Plan does not provide Skilled Nursing Facility benefits even for short-term rehabilitative care."
And for hospitalization inpatient. Once medicare tells you you must leave the hospital, that they will not cover you, the Empire Plan will not provide any more coverage. I have a neighbor who was retired and had a foot amputated, he was probably 85 years old and frail. Just five days in the hospital and medicare ordered him out.
These days, both husband and wife must work to make ends meet and raise their children and be self sufficient. Why should people have to choose supporting their children and supporting their parents? Would you leave your parent with a nursing aide or whatever coming over? Too many thieves out there.
Excellent retirement? HA. My mother retired from the state after 35 years. For giving all those years, she gets a meager roughly $10,000 a year. Now, if you were an elected official, a patronage job, legislative staff, sure, you get fat benefits.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
No one hates 'the seniors'.....here's the thing, before we are dubbed 'the seniors'...we are the baby, the teenager, the whipper snappers, the 30somethings, the 40somethings, the middle agers, the whatever we call ourselves.......
FACT: We ALL get old and weak........anyone see the robust 200year old running around yet??? yeah, me either........as for who get's the job of taking care of our frail bodies/minds/prejudices/baggage etc etc........there are few choices.......yet,,,,,time moves on.......and nothing gets easier.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
County to bond cost of building nursing home BY MICHAEL LAMENDOLA Gazette Reporter
Schenectady County will use serial bonds to cover the full cost of constructing a $51 million, 200-bed nursing home, which will replace Glendale Home on Hetcheltown Road. The county Legislature is scheduled to discuss the project in committee Monday night. It will vote on issuing bonds May 12. County officials had been exploring alternative ways to pay for the project, including seeking federal stimulus money. County Manager Kathleen Rooney said the new facility will serve the county’s needs for 30 years. The new home will be built on the site of Glendale Home. The county has not decided yet whether to demolish Glendale or find another use for it after the new facility is complete. The county received approval from the state in December to build a new nursing home. As part of this approval, the county must provide the state with a down payment of $226,000 and it must begin construction by Nov. 1. The design process is under way, and the county expects to meet the deadline. Medicaid will cover about 85 percent of the construction cost. Debt service on the remaining 15 percent will cost the county about $443,000 annually, said Commissioner of Finance George Davidson. Davidson said the county expects to offset this cost through savings achieved in the operation of a modern, energy-efficient facility. The county plans to seek Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design status for the project. In building a new facility, the county had hoped to lower the annual subsidy it provides to Glendale Home by receiving enhanced state reimbursement. However, the 2009-10 state budget changed the way the state reimburses counties for Medicaid costs, said Davidson. The old system gave “a clear financial advantage” to constructing a new nursing home, he said. The new method takes this advantage away, he added. “As a result of state actions, the county subsidy in 2012 is estimated at $9 million” and only because the county is receiving a federal subsidy, Davidson said. The county’s portion of the subsidy for 2009 will be approximately $4 million, instead of the usual $7 million, as the county is using the federal money to offset local costs. Glendale Administrator Harvey Finkelstein said the new facility will: Consist of mostly private rooms. Create a homelike environment for the residents, featuring dining rooms, living rooms and dens, decentralized kitchenettes and other amenities. The concept is called neighborhood design. Offer flexibility to accommodate a changing resident population. Contain electronic systems offering better communication between residents and staff. Rooney said Glendale staff reviewed designs and toured nursing home facilities in the state before recommending the neighborhood design concept for the new home. The new facility will incorporate different staffing methods and service delivery concepts, which will differ from the traditional skilled nursing practices, Rooney said. The county wants to build a new nursing home because Glendale is obsolete. It consists of a series of buildings, some constructed decades ago, some without their own heating and cooling plants. The Berger Commission, more formally known as the Commission on Health Care Facilities in the 21st Century, originally suggested the county keep Glendale open and downsize it to 168 beds. The commission findings became law in January 2007. County officials fought the recommendation and got the state to agree to 200 beds. .......................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....amp;EntityId=Ar00901
We’ve criticized the Democratic leaders of the Schenectady County Legislature in the past for considering construction of a new Glendale Home without ever asking the threshold question of whether it any longer makes sense for the county to be in the nursing home business. Now they’re not just considering it, they’re about to authorize bonding for it — up to $50 million — without even having a formal plan. There should have been — and still needs to be — serious discussion about the need for this facility, as well as the cost to county taxpayers. When the home was built in the 1930s, county nursing homes were needed to care for the elderly poor because private homes wouldn’t take them. Now, with Medicaid, virtually all private nursing homes take these patients, and actually seek them out because the revenue is steady and they want their beds filled. It may or may not be true, as the Democratic leaders claim, that the privates prefer not to take the hardest-to-care-for patients, like those with Alzheimer’s, severe obesity or incontinence. But they constitute a small percentage of the patients at Glendale. If the privates won’t take them, doesn’t it make more sense to pay these institutions, say, an extra $10,000 or $15,000 a year to care for each patient than to spend more than $100,000 a year in government money to care for them at Glendale? Yes, but those homes don’t supply 200-plus union jobs, as Glendale does; and in Schenectady the Democrats are subservient to the unions. The county expects the state to pick up 85 percent of the new 200-bed home’s capital cost, estimated at $50 million, with the county’s share being offset by Medicaid reimbursments and cost efficiencies. But the capital costs aren’t the biggest concern; it’s the home’s annual operating deficit, which county taxpayers must make up. That deficit, which was running at $7 million a year, dropped to $4 million this year, thanks to a one-time federal payment. But the county expects it to jump to $9 million by 2012 (and this assumes a federal aid program is continued after it sunsets and the state doesn’t change its Medicaid formula again to the disadvantage of the county — both dangerous assumptions, it seems). If the state, faced with more multibillion-dollar deficits, continues to reduce its Medicaid reimbursements for nursing homes, that $9 million annual deficit could easily become $15 million or $20 million, necessitating a huge tax increase. .......>>>>....http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....amp;EntityId=Ar00901
Listen....it is a NO BRAINER, that we do NOT need a county nursing home. Sure, the private nursing homes can pick and choose. HOWEVER....the state MANDATES the private nursing homes to set aside so many beds for medicaid residents. And even some of our private nursing homes presently have empty beds.
Ellis Hospital has proposed turning St. Clares into a nursing home as well. So, common sense tells us that a county paid nursing home is surely not needed.
So why are the dems pushing so hard for this rebuilding of the Glendale home? UNIONS! Every employee who is currently employed at the Glendale home is a union, county employee that guarantees the present government administration VOTES! And that my cyber friends is the ONLY reason the dems will keep this unnecessary nursing home afloat!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Well, I'm glad they listened to all their constituents:
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SCHENECTADY A protracted struggle over the construction of a new more modern facility for the sick and elderly in Schenectady County cleared a major hurdle on Tuesday when lawmakers approved the plan and the money to finance it.
The governing body, during their regular meeting, passed back to back resolutions authorizing the construction of a new 200-bed Glendale Home in Scotia, and then to issue bonds for the $50 million project that has been years in the making. The 11-4 votes were along party lines each time with the four Republicans cast dissenting votes.
County Attorney Christopher Gardner has said officials hope to start construction on the two-year project early next year.
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This is the typical rubbish you get from the Krats. I took care of my grandparents, like others on this Board. I'm sick and tired of people that refuse to take care of their own and want the government i.e. (other Taxpayers) to pay for them. People that worked for a town have excellent retirement and health coverage. Use it for decent care. The County Home is the lowest rated in the State.
